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> Is it possible that this problem can start with the eyes or the feet?

>

> Terry Mavroudis

Casler writes:

I'm surprised no one has suggested that it might not be caused by TMJ.

(of course I'm joking) :-D

Regards,

Casler

TRI-VECTOR 3-D Force Systems

Century City, CA

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Or a Fructose overload (Poliquin hamstring tightness suggestion from that

thread) or lack of um, magnesium baths? By the way, I wondered how the

fructose would well, selectively cause merely tight hamstrings and not a

rigor throughout the muscular system due to such fructose overload of the

overall system? <grin> Sorry, I couldn't resist...

Seriously though I'd suggest evaluating form on the squat at least - my

experience suggests that using a wider stance - and turning the toes out can

alleviate the knee caving in effect. At least it did for me personally and

the lifters I've tried it on :).

It's on threads like this I miss Mel's sense of humor, I admit it! Please

forgive my humble contribution of humor coupled with well, my practical

suggestion.

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA

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>> Is it possible that this problem can start with the eyes or the feet?

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>> Terry Mavroudis

>

> Casler writes:

>

> I'm surprised no one has suggested that it might not be caused by TMJ.

>

> (of course I'm joking) :-D

>

> Regards,

>

> Casler

> TRI-VECTOR 3-D Force Systems

> Century City, CA

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> > Is it possible that this problem can start with the eyes or the

feet?

> >

> > Terry Mavroudis

>

> Casler writes:

>

> I'm surprised no one has suggested that it might not be caused by

TMJ.

>

> (of course I'm joking) :-D

That's funny. Good one.

That still leaves my question unanswered.

If the athlete has a valgus foot or feet, all the scientific training

protocols spoken about on this topic will not help.

Terry Mavroudis

Montreal Canada

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This problem could potentially start with the foot. Greg Roskopf

claims that dysfunctional movement patterns where the symptom is

located in the knee are always due to a problem either in the hip or

knee. The knee itself cannot prevent itself from either being valgus

or varus. I don't entirely agree as I've seen VMO strengthening help

the problem; however if the lifter has extremely tight peroneal

muscles as soon as he goes into ankly dorsi-flexion the ankle would

become valgus, forcing the knee into a similar position.

As for the eyes? Perhaps if the lifter has very imbalanced vision

that causes the head to be turned to comensate for the visual

problem; the sacrum would likely put itself in a similar position

( Lovett). If the sacrum is dysfunctionally torqued, nutated

or counternutated, then it could perhaps force the pelvis into a

compensatory position whereby driving the knees valgus in a squat.

Perhaps. Phew...

JC

Cowell, CHEK III, CSCS, PICP I

Raleigh, NC 27608

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