Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Just a " ditto " -- The deep end is indeed hard to avoid when you feel you are drowning in an ocean. Misunderstandings more readily arise when all parties involved suffer from fatigue, brain fog or worse. We're here to help each other, for we are all already hurting. I too hope this fuss " can all be undone and forgotten about rapidly, " as so much of the outside world (as especially knows) fights us for every advance, and here is, at last, a place where understanding, camaraderie and information are freely given. Let's try to leave our bickering tendencies at the I & I " door. " Jess > > > Thanks , > > > > > > I couldn't agree more. I didn't want to make this call, and I > did > > > try to take it back channel, but continued to escalate the > > > situation, making it personal and doing it in public despite my > > > requests not to. It's not a constructive argument. It's hard for > me, > > > because I consider a friend and have been baffled for weeks > by > > > his anger at me, which began simply because I respond well to > > > Benicar. That's what this all comes back to. Although I don't > really > > > think this is about me, or Benicar. I think this is about 's > > > illness getting the better of him right now. > > > > > > I also agree that we've lost our sense of humor. A lot of this > was > > > definitely meant humorously and has been misconstrued. When I > > > said " lyme light " that was totally a silly play on words, > something > > > the regular would have appreciated. Not meant as a > disparaging > > > comment. If someone wants to interpret something non specific as > a > > > personal slur, then they also need to take responsibility for > their > > > own perceptions, or lack of humor, and not automatically assume > the > > > worst of others. > > > > > > Durameter, we have a long history of friendly debate here > without > > > targeting individual people or accusing others of bad intentions > or > > > despicable agendas. That's what has been doing with > increasing > > > frequency lately, and it has been rapidly escalating the last > couple > > > of days. It's never happened before and I'd like to give him a > > > chance to cool down and get some perspective. > > > > > > If, however, you can't see the distinction between debate and > > > personal attacks on individuals, please find a board more > fitting to > > > your taste. > > > > > > I have temporarily banned for his own good until he can > calm > > > down and not do something he totally regrets. His words can't > hurt > > > me, and that's not why I'm doing it. I survived Trevor > Marshall's > > > wrath. I kept mainly quiet through that entire ordeal. I've been > > > sued, threatened, had the list shut down, started another one > and am > > > still standing to tell the tale. This has always been about > letting > > > all points of view be expressed without making any of it > personal. > > > This is not about attacking individual people just because we > don't > > > agree with them. When personal attacks start happening, that's > when > > > people will be invited to leave. > > > > > > And Tony, please tone it down. Say what you want to say without > > > disparaging comments, even if they're supposed to be funny or > non > > > specific and not directed at anyone in particular. We don't need > the > > > flames fanned right now. > > > > > > penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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