Re: More from Dr. Schardt- Hyaluronic Acid -

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Hmmmm, Hyaluronic Acid was one of those things that piqued my

interest at one point in time, but then my cycnicism (based on so

many failed supplement experiments) won out and I forgot about it.

What do you recommend for getting more of it? I noticed in a little

search I did that magnesium is needed for HA to be metabolized. It's

possible we have the HA, but aren't utilizing it due to our depleted

magnesium stores. Perhaps yet another reason that my symptoms

respond well to Magnesium?

I've also been adding coconut oil to my diet recently. So much

easier than I thought it would be, and I'm really loving the effect

it's having on my G.I. tract, not to mention, the anticipation that

the other healing and antimicrobial properties that Coconut Oil is

supposed to posess (monolauric acid) will actually bear fruit. Any

connection between the two acids, in your mind?

penny

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Inflammation generates a lot of proteases and other degradating

enzymes. One is hyaluronidase, which digests our HA.

So, again....it's important to reduce inflammation to protect our HA.

To increase our production of it we can actually take HA as a

supplement. I prefer the liquid form...I use it sublingually.

The supplement I mentioned earlier, N-acetyl-glucosamine (NAG) will

is used by the body to produce HA. NAG is the body's precursor to

HA.

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> > > > A New Approach to Chronic Lyme Disease

> > > > I think there's more afoot than what's suspected

> > here...Lamisil

> > > works

> > > > against CWD bacteria ...it has a completely different mode

of

> > > action than

> > > > Fluconazole ...Will someone else try the drug to confirm my

> > > experiences ..

> > > > what about it? ...

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Penny:

Glad you like the Coconut oil. I love the stuff.

I've done alot of research on Hyaluronic acid in the past.

The % absorption for the oral route is almost nil... and injections

aren't approved for people (great for horses though - spectacular

results).

Barb

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> > > >

> > > > A New Approach to Chronic Lyme Disease

> > > > I think there's more afoot than what's suspected

> > here...Lamisil

> > > works

> > > > against CWD bacteria ...it has a completely different mode of

> > > action than

> > > > Fluconazole ...Will someone else try the drug to confirm my

> > > experiences ..

> > > > what about it? ...

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See my other post..

I have not found a HA product that convinces me it's worth the

money... (i.e. almost zero absorption).

What product do you take? Do you have info on absorption?

Barb

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> > > > >

> > > > > A New Approach to Chronic Lyme Disease

> > > > > I think there's more afoot than what's suspected

> > > here...Lamisil

> > > > works

> > > > > against CWD bacteria ...it has a completely different mode

> of

> > > > action than

> > > > > Fluconazole ...Will someone else try the drug to confirm my

> > > > experiences ..

> > > > > what about it? ...

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Barb,

I use Synthovial Seven... www.hyalogic.com

It's expensive, but it's pharmaceutical quality...and it works.

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> > > > > > A New Approach to Chronic Lyme Disease

> > > > > > I think there's more afoot than what's suspected

> > > > here...Lamisil

> > > > > works

> > > > > > against CWD bacteria ...it has a completely different

mode

> > of

> > > > > action than

> > > > > > Fluconazole ...Will someone else try the drug to confirm

my

> > > > > experiences ..

> > > > > > what about it? ...

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:

For the last 6 or 7 years, I have taken Glucosamine/Condroitin

sulfate for about one month every year. It completely alleviated

early arthritis in the small joint at the base of my spine

6 years ago.. And I have seen old cats, dogd, and horses improve

on it.

I know glucosamine is a HA precursor - and there's alot of HA

in the vitreous humor of the eye and the syovial fluid - par of the

consituents for the proper viscosity..

I have not found any convincing studies- or, more importantly -

seen empircally (in humans or animals) that oral HA- (no matter what

the grade) is better than the precursor.

When supplementing Glu/Con there are improvements in the joint fluid

viscosity (and the vitreous humor) so I'm assuming then there has to

be HA conversion going on... Glu/Con works for me, and my animals..

although as I posted previously - I do have a horse

that's injected with HA and PSGAGS.. and the response is immediate-

and I've pumped hiim with oral HA previously to no avail.

Barb

Barb

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> > > > > > > A New Approach to Chronic Lyme Disease

> > > > > > > I think there's more afoot than what's suspected

> > > > > here...Lamisil

> > > > > > works

> > > > > > > against CWD bacteria ...it has a completely different

> mode

> > > of

> > > > > > action than

> > > > > > > Fluconazole ...Will someone else try the drug to

confirm

> my

> > > > > > experiences ..

> > > > > > > what about it? ...

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" Barb Peck " <egroups1bp@y...> wrote:

> : For the last 6 or 7 years, I have taken

Glucosamine/Condroitin sulfate

I haven't taken this combo myself, but I bought it many, many years

ago for my father-in-law whose hands were so gnarled he could no

longer play his beloved golf. Within a few months of the G & C

combo, he was out playing again. It was quite miraculous. I bought

it for him based on another miraculous account I'd heard which came

from the wife of a veterinarian, who used it in his animals, and

then put her on it, way before it was commonly used. She said the

results were amazing, her arthritis " disappeared " .

I think this might be a good thing to consider now, to combine it

with the ARB, for as says, a multi-pronged effort is probably

best. I'd like to reduce my ARB usage, by replacing it with other

things, but so far, nothing else works like Benicar. I can rarely

get below 100 mg per day. 120 keeps me in really good shape.

Compared to all the years of pain and other suffering I've had

caused by inflammation, some suspicion of risk is worth it to me

right now.

penny

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I agree that the precursors are useful to use.

However, I have also seen sublingual HA work extremely well for not

only arthritis, but also numerous types of neuropathies including

sciatic nerve pain.

I'm not dogmatic about how to increase HA...but, I do know that

inflammation does reduce it and therapies to reduce inflammation and

that increase HA levels are helpful.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A New Approach to Chronic Lyme Disease

> > > > > > > > I think there's more afoot than what's suspected

> > > > > > here...Lamisil

> > > > > > > works

> > > > > > > > against CWD bacteria ...it has a completely

different

> > mode

> > > > of

> > > > > > > action than

> > > > > > > > Fluconazole ...Will someone else try the drug to

> confirm

> > my

> > > > > > > experiences ..

> > > > > > > > what about it? ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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