Oxygen/HBOT -- Penny, et al

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--- " penny " wrote:

> I think oxygen is important, but again, I don't think hyperbaric

is

> any kind of guarantee AT ALL. And I'm talking from the experience

of

> many, many people who've had numerous dives for serious

infections.

> It helps heal wounds, we know that for sure, but I haven't met one

> doctor who operates those things who believes they'll outright

kill

> an entrenched infection.

From the half brain:

I'd like to add a cautionary 2 cents from the brain tumor world,

where it wa hypothesized that HBOT could be an effective treatment

to heal damaged brain tissue once the BT was gone. Based on this a

few BT patients tried HBOT. Reports back indicate cognitive

improvement in some, ufortunately, others report sudden and rapid

tumor regrowth/return. Needless to say, for now I'm avoiding HBOT

until more is known.

Trish

CFS and brain tumor patient

> I agree with Penny

>

> Sorry to be a downer, but I feel like we're turning into all these

> other lists that recycle the same treatments over and over and

over.

> Just wanting so badly for one treatment to be the miracle cure

(Hey,

> I'm guilty, I'm the one who thought Marshall had really maybe done

> it this time - at least his theory WAS new). But we keep getting

on

> these same band wagons. I've been run down by so many band wagons,

I

> can't begin to count them. What sometimes gets to me is to see

them

> continuously coming around again, and again. I'm on the band wagon

> carousel. :-(

>

> penny

>

> Speaking of oxygen, and the latest of band wagons, anyone hear of

> this strange new treatment?

>

> http://www.bio-resonance.com/airnergy.htm

>

> p.p.s. Jill, are you doing the intensive Katz protocol IVIG? Or

are

> you just getting periodic injections?

>

>

>

>

>

> > My experience is different.

> > As soon as I started doing weekly IV's (minerals particularly

> > magnesium, and some Vitamin C and b's) my periodic low grade

> fevers

> > went away, nerve/muscle pain reduced, sleep improved (I'm not

> saying

> > the latter are gone, the last 2, tho the 99 degree fevers have

> been

> > gone for about 4 years). I find them crucial.

> > When I added in a glutathione chaser that was another help,

small

> but

> > significant.

> > IVIG has made a significant differenc ethat I think I now got

> > accustomed to...

> > ANd of course hyperbaric oxygen is the most important, gamma and

> > magnesium are close seconds.

> > Antibiotics, in turn, are horrible for me and never cured it. I

> onnly

> > took them in the beginning.

> >

> > For some reason, the germanium I " ve been taking has had a

> weird/bad

> > effect on me, I don't know why.

> >

> > I will report back on the comitras when I gulp, swallow, and pay

> > through the nose for it. But I have a feeling it will help,

since

> it

> > downregulates the MMP's. Since upregulated MMP's make blood

> vessels

> > leaky they probably just make various cell membranes leaky,

maybe

> it

> > is a way that borrelia adheres, penetrates and spreads better.

> Their

> > side effect of course is inflammation which is why we feel bad.

> >

> > I'm really focussed now on finding ways not to kill it, but

simply

> to

> > take its weapons away, to outsmart it.

> >

> > I still hope will study the sugars for me but if not I

guess

> > I " ll have to myself.