Re: what can turn bath water milky white?

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In a message dated 5/24/01 5:50:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, andrea@...

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<< I'm looking for something that I can add to a

bath milk formulation (oil, water, amphoteric

surfactant, carbomer, fragrance & preservative) so

that when it's added to bath water, it forms a

milky cloud and the water stays white-ish (like a

thin milk)

>>

I used what was called a " solubilizer " . I got it from a couple

different suppliers. Anyway, it disperses eo's and other vegetable oils, so

they mix with water. And, I mixed it with Olive Oil, to make a facial

cleanser. As soon as the product hits water, it turns " milky " .

I tried to get the ingredients from the suppliers, but they both said for

" proprietory reasons " , they were unable to share. probably knows

what's in it. Let me know if you want the suppliers.

Christy

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> I'm looking for something that I can add to a

>bath milk formulation (oil, water, amphoteric

>surfactant, carbomer, fragrance & preservative) so

>that when it's added to bath water, it forms a

>milky cloud and the water stays white-ish (like a

>thin milk)

>

> Any ideas/suggestions on could accomplish this?

In " milk " baths and salts, I've used a water dispersible Titanium

Dioxide. About 3% or less should do the trick. Specifically, I use

Titanium Dioxide USP #3328 from

Whittaker, & s

1000 Coolidge Street

Plainfield NJ 07080

Work:

FAX:

I've never used water dispersible TiO2 in a liquid " milk " bath.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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Can you please send me your suppliers? Dory

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>In a message dated 5/24/01 5:50:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, andrea@...

>writes:

>

><< I'm looking for something that I can add to a

> bath milk formulation (oil, water, amphoteric

> surfactant, carbomer, fragrance & preservative) so

> that when it's added to bath water, it forms a

> milky cloud and the water stays white-ish (like a

> thin milk)

> >>

>

> I used what was called a " solubilizer " . I got it from a couple

>different suppliers. Anyway, it disperses eo's and other vegetable oils, so

>they mix with water. And, I mixed it with Olive Oil, to make a facial

>cleanser. As soon as the product hits water, it turns " milky " .

This works great in anhydrous systems (systems without water). Since

's formula contains " oil, water, amphoteric

surfactant, carbomer, fragrance & preservative " , I don't think it will

work.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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I assume you want a clear product to start with, which then turns

milky in water. For the system which you already have, you will

probably have a much higher amount of surfactant to oil ratio in

oreder to get the product clear. You need to reverse this ratio to

get the oil content very high. This will tend to start turning the

product cloudy so ethanol will have to be added to produce a clear

product once again. When the product is added to water the ethanol

will be diluted and a white cloud will form as the oil " comes out " of

solution. This type of formulation is quite difficult to get right.

Dave E

>

> I'm looking for something that I can add to a

> bath milk formulation (oil, water, amphoteric

> surfactant, carbomer, fragrance & preservative) so

> that when it's added to bath water, it forms a

> milky cloud and the water stays white-ish (like a

> thin milk)

>

> Any ideas/suggestions on could accomplish this?

>

>

> thanks!

>

> cheers,

> .