Re: Tansy - Andy s must-see amazing micro-cinema of horror

[Guest guest]

Well, I wonder what the Red Cross of california had in mind when

they said Lyme is a threat in the blood supply...perhaps this is not

as novel as it sounds. Barb was infected this way, maybe it tells us

she had a predominantly intracellular infection from the start.

Can someone tell me this:

Is it the case that when the rate of new red blood cell production

is diminished, the immune system can't be as aggressive in targeting

infected cells?

If that's true, it would explain some things.

> > > Hey, who has watched this vid by Drs. & Kroun - link

found

> > at

> > > in the spirochetes section of the homepage of LymeRICK?

> > > http://lymerick.ulmarweb.dk/

> > >

> > > Im surprised there hasnt been more shock about this.

> > >

> > > I think this may be blood left out on the slide for many

hours. If

> > > so it would be different from what youd see on a straight

smear,

> > but

> > > given the ~12h ideal generation time of Bb, it would not be

too

> > much

> > > more biomass than exists in circulating blood. What do you

guys

> > > think about the idea that the red cell may be the prime

sanctuary

> > of

> > > Bb - an idea I saw in one place once. That source said the red

cell

> > > was poorly penetrated by abx. As for the immunological

policing of

> > > the red cell, it may be poorly understood - if not I dont

quite

> > > understand it. Unlike those of mice, ours express no MHC-I.

> > >

> > > Someone should use fluorescent Ab to make video like this and

show

> > > it to the world.

> > >

> > > ======================================

> > > Andy , Bolton UK – a collection of several videoclips of

> > > moving filamentous and granular structures filmed in blood of

> > > chronically ill UK patients diagnosed with CFS and/or chronic

Lyme

> > > disease (52 Mb) – A MUST SEE !

[Guest guest]

The presentation of my problems (and I'm assuming it was the passage

of Lyme and Babs in tainted blood transfusionin 1975) occurred about

a month after my operation, in winter

- and it was acute presentation- 20K WBC, high fever, malaise -

upon manual diff- fragmented and damaged RBCs were found, aggregated

RBCS - so it wan't subtle.

IMO, because I am spleenless, and the initial load of bacteria

and parasites were 'dumped' in - my immune system didn't have a

chance. I was dx'd with lupus 2 years later.. by that time the real

problem - Lyme/Babs was very disseminated and sequestered (and I'm

sure intracellular) sequestered. I honestly think that some of my

ALT therapys reduced the Babs load- especially Bee venom therapy -

which now is known to be effective on Babs.

Re Bowen & the videos:

IMO, if a very

large percentage of RBCs are infected with anything, the patient is

going to be very sick- and by sick I mean fever and high WBC.

Sometimes I see on Lymenet people talk about high WBcs- but now

often..mostly it's the reverse of me (low WBCs)

I have many past blood tests documenting where my WBC was super sky

high - between 18K and 20K+ (high range is 10K)... then over time I

became lymphopenic (low Lymphocytes) but my neutrophils would rise to

the occassion and be way above high range when I'd have a flare...

What amazes me is that even in 1993, when lack of technology was NOT

an excuse (my last very bad flare with high

WBCs- 18K ) all they did was 'monitor me' for a week and ponder these

high counts... but hey- they said I had Lupus (and other complex

autoimmune disorders) and because I was refusing steroids there

just " wasn't anything more they could do. " So they did nothing.

Barb

> > > > Hey, who has watched this vid by Drs. & Kroun - link

> found

> > > at

> > > > in the spirochetes section of the homepage of LymeRICK?

> > > > http://lymerick.ulmarweb.dk/

> > > >

> > > > Im surprised there hasnt been more shock about this.

> > > >

> > > > I think this may be blood left out on the slide for many

> hours. If

> > > > so it would be different from what youd see on a straight

> smear,

> > > but

> > > > given the ~12h ideal generation time of Bb, it would not be

> too

> > > much

> > > > more biomass than exists in circulating blood. What do you

> guys

> > > > think about the idea that the red cell may be the prime

> sanctuary

> > > of

> > > > Bb - an idea I saw in one place once. That source said the

red

> cell

> > > > was poorly penetrated by abx. As for the immunological

> policing of

> > > > the red cell, it may be poorly understood - if not I dont

> quite

> > > > understand it. Unlike those of mice, ours express no MHC-I.

> > > >

> > > > Someone should use fluorescent Ab to make video like this and

> show

> > > > it to the world.

> > > >

> > > > ======================================

> > > > Andy , Bolton UK – a collection of several videoclips

of

> > > > moving filamentous and granular structures filmed in blood of

> > > > chronically ill UK patients diagnosed with CFS and/or chronic

> Lyme

> > > > disease (52 Mb) – A MUST SEE !