fluc - my $0.02

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Regarding cautious vs enthusiastic personality types - it takes all

kinds. Adherence to the principles of scholarship should keep us all

on about about the same page; still, some will tend to be more

enthusiastic about new treatment possibilites than others. Consider

the potential benefits of this natural diversity - IMO there are some.

I believe s fluc reports, tho more details are always welcome,

but I also see several fluc zero-gainers believably attested on the

internet, and no successes other than . There are a zillion

sickies out there who dont post on any of the boards, so I dont

consider the summed experiences of our communities to be an omniscient

eye. But I certainly do consider it.

Personally I remain kinda interested perhaps in large part because of

my own experience - I herxed when I once happened to do a little fluc

(essentially bed-ridden), whereas I have slooowly responded to, but

never herxed on, any of several other antimicrobials. My conception of

herx is adopted from Barb - you *unmistakably*, not maybe, feel like

damn crap, probably multi-systemically, and after one or a few such

experiences you feel somewhat better than you did before (boy did I

feel nice). I do not consider my fluc herx to have been due to GI

yeast, because nystatin kills my tongue fuzz faster than fluc without

herx - this leaves systemic yeast and borrelia as prime contenders.

Technically with yeast its not a Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction, but

like, whatever.

Regarding safety, I most closely agree with s picture, tho I

see some decent web sources out there claiming that a minority of the

(rare) liver shutdowns *werent* reversible. Such sources like

rxlist.com are generally pretty good - but still, there aint no

reality till theres *numbers* and some sort of accountability. If

someone wants to do the googlin, I am almost sure I read the clinical

trials results last fall online somewhere - thats a document with

numbers. I agree with Jaep that what you hear at many boards

about the " general ominousness " of fluc (amongst other antifungals) is

largely just dogma propagated by people who never look at original

sources. The dangers do run all the way up to death but IMO the rarity

of real danger is pretty well quantifiable by looking at some studies

- and personally when I looked at those quantities I didnt find them

hair-raising at all.

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Corrigendum to my post - I did hear reliably about about a patient on

a german-language lyme groups who felt asymptomatic due to fluc. Dont

know if she was one of Schardts patients or not, or whether she

elected to attempt to cease tx.