Re: Vitamin D, worst relapse, treatment

[Guest guest]

With nutrients, such as Vitamin D, care must be taken to make sure

that things are reasonably balanced. Vitamin D will deplete B12

because it improves the operation of immune system [which consumes

B12] and not taking B12 + B-Complex + Multi-vitamin with Minerals

would explain it.

For any one with a viral infection, HIV research on the impact of

Vitamin D founds that it is important for patients

" In vivo, vitamin D deficiency has been associated with macrophage

dysfunction and bacterial infections (8, 9, 36–39). Furthermore,

until the advent of antibiotics, vitamin D was used to treat

mycobacterial infections "

" The low 1,25-(OH)2D and high TNFa levels observed here may therefore

further impair the immune response in HIV-infected patients both

independently and in combination and may represent an important

feature of the pathogenesis of HIVrelated immunodeficiency. "

Severe Deficiency of 1,25-Dihydroxyvitamin D3 in Human

Immunodeficiency Virus Infection: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology

and Metabolism, Vol. 83, No. 11

>

> My last big relapse, in 2003,

> was by far my worst. It could

> have been caused by unknowingly

> increasing vitamin D levels.

> I recently talked to a friend

> who is a Ph.D. researcher from

> a field outside CFS who is one

> of the top people at one of the

> top universities in the world

> in that field. That professor

> knew of the large body of

> published science about the

> problems with too much vitamin D.

>

> After unknowingly increasing my

> vitamin D intake to many times

> the RDA, most of my CFS symptoms

> got much better for a few months.

> It was at this time of year.

> I then went into a slow onset

> relapse that got worse and worse.

> I talked to my well-known CFS

> physician about the relapse.

> Neither of us could explain it.

>

>

> After several months, I finally

> tried 10,000mcg. of hydroxocobalamin

> subQ daily. It started improving

> my symptoms overnight, and over

> several months gradually brought

> me out of the worst of the relapse.

>

> Roy

[Guest guest]

R:

I don't follow the D connection...

If your symptoms got better with B12 supplementation- it sounds like

a B deficiency.

Barb

>

> My last big relapse, in 2003,

> was the worst in my 35-year

> history of crashes. It could

> have been caused by unknowingly

> increasing vitamin D levels.

> I recently talked to a friend

> who is a Ph.D. researcher from

> a field outside CFS who is one

> of the top people at one of the

> top universities in the world

> in that field. That professor

> knew of the large body of

> published science about the

> problems with too much vitamin D.

>

> After unknowingly increasing my

> vitamin D intake to many times

> the RDA, most of my CFS symptoms

> got much better for a few months.

> It was at this time of year.

> I then went into a slow onset

> relapse that got worse and worse.

> I talked to my well-known CFS

> physician about the relapse.

> Neither of us could explain it.

>

>

> After several months, I finally

> tried 10,000mcg. of hydroxocobalamin

> subQ daily. It started improving

> my symptoms overnight, and over

> several months gradually brought

> me out of the worst of the relapse.

>

> Roy

[Guest guest]

This is absolutely profound. After taking B12 in high doses my

sensitivity to the sun went away, now I am trying to get as much sun as

I can. The sun Has a positive effect when there is enough b12 to deal

with it and b4 B12 and other bs (and thus the reduction of NO or

Homoscystine) I could not tolerate the sun at all. (This all started

only after the benicar crashes).

This is Most Profound I would love to know the method that is at work

here it might be one of the most significant aspects for some of us.

Ken please comment.

>

>

> >

> > My last big relapse, in 2003,

> > was the worst in my 35-year

> > history of crashes. It could

> > have been caused by unknowingly

> > increasing vitamin D levels.

> > I recently talked to a friend

> > who is a Ph.D. researcher from

> > a field outside CFS who is one

> > of the top people at one of the

> > top universities in the world

> > in that field. That professor

> > knew of the large body of

> > published science about the

> > problems with too much vitamin D.

> >

> > After unknowingly increasing my

> > vitamin D intake to many times

> > the RDA, most of my CFS symptoms

> > got much better for a few months.

> > It was at this time of year.

> > I then went into a slow onset

> > relapse that got worse and worse.

> > I talked to my well-known CFS

> > physician about the relapse.

> > Neither of us could explain it.

> >

> >

> > After several months, I finally

> > tried 10,000mcg. of hydroxocobalamin

> > subQ daily. It started improving

> > my symptoms overnight, and over

> > several months gradually brought

> > me out of the worst of the relapse.

> >

> > Roy

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

With nutrients, such as Vitamin D, care must be taken to make sure

that things are reasonably balanced. Vitamin D will deplete B12

because it improves the operation of immune system [which consumes

B12] and not taking B12 + B-Complex + Multi-vitamin with Minerals

would explain it. See http://lassesen.com/cfids/deficiencies.htm

REMEMBER: Another name for the FWIW protocol is NO DEFICIENCY LEFT

BEHIND….

For any one with a viral infection, HIV research on the impact of

Vitamin D founds that it is important for patients

" In vivo, vitamin D deficiency has been associated with macrophage

dysfunction and bacterial infections (8, 9, 36–39). Furthermore,

until the advent of antibiotics, vitamin D was used to treat

mycobacterial infections "

" The low 1,25-(OH)2D and high TNFa levels observed here may therefore

further impair the immune response in HIV-infected patients both

independently and in combination and may represent an important

feature of the pathogenesis of HIVrelated immunodeficiency. "

From Severe Deficiency of 1,25-Dihydroxyvitamin D3 in Human

Immunodeficiency Virus Infection: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology

and Metabolism, Vol. 83, No. 11

>

> My last big relapse, in 2003,

> was the worst in my 35-year

> history of crashes. It could

> have been caused by unknowingly

> increasing vitamin D levels.

> I recently talked to a friend

> who is a Ph.D. researcher from

> a field outside CFS who is one

> of the top people at one of the

> top universities in the world

> in that field. That professor

> knew of the large body of

> published science about the

> problems with too much vitamin D.

>

> After unknowingly increasing my

> vitamin D intake to many times

> the RDA, most of my CFS symptoms

> got much better for a few months.

> It was at this time of year.

> I then went into a slow onset

> relapse that got worse and worse.

> I talked to my well-known CFS

> physician about the relapse.

> Neither of us could explain it.

>

>

> After several months, I finally

> tried 10,000mcg. of hydroxocobalamin

> subQ daily. It started improving

> my symptoms overnight, and over

> several months gradually brought

> me out of the worst of the relapse.

>

> Roy