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Per Trina's request I am posting this to the list as it came to my mailbox

only. I will try to answer it later tonight or tomorrow.

Hello Pat,

Am I correct in assuming this email was sent to me privately? If not, please

feel free to post this response to your list. When I click on the " reply "

button, my email program only ever puts your email address in the to: field.

I will forgo the pH issue as it seems resolved?

In re: dendritic salt. How can you possibly know how much I pay per pound

for this product? How can you possibly know what my profit margins are or

what they need to be?

In re: potassium sorbate. If we ever said we were selling a product that was

from mountain laurel, then we were. If we began purchasing from a different

source, we changed the description. We are currently purchasing from a US

source. Here is how our description reads at our website:

" Potassium sorbate, a fatty acid, has well-demonstrated anti-fungal

and anti-microbial properties in both the food and cosmetic industries.

FDA regards K Sorbate as GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe)... "

I was not privy to any written correspondence you have had with Bill re: ROE

and tocopherols or tocopherol acetate. If he did not respond to you, he may

have felt as I do now -- as though I am the Guest of Honor at a witch hunt.

I can not say for sure why he hasn't responded to you, though, Pat. You

probably know better than I do. Regardless, I can only assume you are

referring to something Bill speaks to at the

www.snowdriftfarm.com/askthechemist.html page in re: ROE and tocopherol

acetate? I am unsure if you mean there is no such thing as tocopherol

acetate, or if you think tocopherol acetate is an emulsion enhancer.

Like you, I am no chemist. But a quick look in the Merck Index should

resolve any issues you may have re: tocopherol acetate. According to the

Merck, 12th edition, p. 10159

" Vitamin E Acetate....alpha tocopherol acetate....C31 H52 O3 ....

practically insoluble in water. Freely soluble in chloroform & ether. Less

readily soluble in alc. Unlike the free vitamins, the acetate is practically

unaffected by the oxiding influence of air, light and UV light... "

In case you were unconvinced or uncertain about its use in skin care

products, here is an ingredients list from our friends at Burt's Bees. They

use it in their " Wings of Love " product line, along with rosemary extract:

" Ingredients - Sunflower oil, castor oil, beeswax, coconut oil, candelilla

wax, lanolin, cocoa butter, tocopherol acetate and tocopherol (vitamin E),

peppermint oil, carnauba wax, comfrey root extract, rosemary extract. May

contain: iron oxide, mica, carmine, titanium dioxide. 100% Natural "

As far as reprinting all or part of our newsletter, you can certainly join

our Cosmetic Quarterly Newsletter and read it all firsthand for yourself.

The reason I mentioned the copyright, Pat, is because the intellectual

property belongs to Bill. Not me. Not you. If you want to reprint, you might

try asking Bill. At the very least, it would show your heart was in the

right place. And I can not tell you what Bill might say in response, if you

were to make such a request. If you'd care to write to him, he can be

reached at mailto:bill@....

I have no issue with your striving for answers to your questions about

cosmetic chemistry. I applaude your efforts, Pat. Please remember there is

usually more than one way to get from Point A to Point B. Bill is a research

chemist. He enjoys experimentation. He enjoys finding alternate routes. If

there truly exists only one way from Point A to Point B, Bill will try to

find another option.

In re: Mr. Young. All I can say is I am underwhelmed by your portrait of Mr.

Young as an innocent bystander. You mention in your email that Mr. Young is

" usually correct unless he misunderstands the question. " I feel the same way

about Bill.

Sincerely,

Trina Wallace

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity

House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc.

pat@...

www.houseofscents.com/

www.yourhealthandbody.com

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