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Now that I think of it, Ken Lassesen urged people, on the CFS list aforementioned, to take bromelain instead of heparin. Just as he recommended herbal remedies for serious infections instead of antibiotics. And he thought it unproductive to be tested for infections, in any event.

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Kathleen

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Kathleen,

I have no idea who you are and I hope that you are well intentioned,

but I don't particularly have a problem with what Ken said about

heparin. In fact his answer may have come from a question I had

asked about heparin also lowering Angiotensin on another board. If

there is a danger in people with low adrenal function using heparin

I think that they should know of that danger, but at the same time

for the rest of us, I wouldn't want any to be needlessly scared

away, thus my comment here.

Combing Benicar and Heparin really might be dangerous because they

both seem to work in very similar ways. I know that when I used both

I got to feeling really bad, but in a strange way that I had never

experienced before. I also know of someone who was using both that

ended up in the hospital appearing to have had a stroke and was not

coherent for some time. Interestingly this person was given a saline

IV, and eventually came around. That is scarey and that is in part

why I stopped using that particular protocol.

Also in regards to heparin and bromelain.....bromelain IS a fairly

good substitute for heparin. I do know of at least one person who is

using it with goodr results, slower but there is progress. I think

though that most would agree now that NattoKinase and Lumbrokinase

are far better then bromelain. My doctor who is generally right on

the cutting edge is now recommending NattoK as a first defense, if

that doesn't work that he moves on to the heparin.

Things change, progress is thankfully made and personally I am not

so sure that you always need some tests either.

One last thing, I just today got a reply from Ken when I wanted to

know, what else he had used to get well besides heparin. He said he

had used " antibiotics " . Sure if there is a way to do this without

ABX, then great, but I think that by the time most of have realized

we are sick, we're already in over our heads. I've read Ken's

website for years and while I don't agree with him on absolutley

everything I'm sure, I see eye to eye with him on the majority of

what he says. And besides I don't take ANYTHING new at someone's

word, I don't care who they are, I research it myself for my own

satisfaction. Hopefully you do too.

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