Re: Breast cancer and liver secondaries

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Dear , Get the lady to ring me on 01708 226061, I can send her details

of the Gerson Therapy. She may also wish to talk to me on the phone as I'm

not that far removed from Newmarket and am both a herbalist and a Gerson

qualified practitioner. Gerson is not experimentation it has a proven track

record but is very hard work and she needs to be both aware of what it

involves and committed to two years minimum working with it. If she is

working then she would almost certainly have to stop as at this stage her

energies are needed for healing and she needs to focus on that.

If the secondaries are in the liver she might want to question the wisdom of

having further chemotherapy which is undermining the liver still further and

will make whatever alternative approach she follows that much more

difficult. Most are based on detoxification, nutrition and effective

elimination and more chemotherapy means a heavier burden for the liver to

cope with.

At this stage I would simply send her an information pack which gives basic

information and recommended further reading. Once she has decided what she

wants to do she can then contact a practitioner for the medications and

therapy to be tailored for her own circumstances and health.

This is done following a full medical history, including various blood

tests, which are repeated throughout the therapy to ensure correct levels

are being maintained and to monitor progress.

Hope this is helpful.

Allshorn

Breast cancer and liver secondaries

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A.,

Is there a web site where I can learn more about what you do? Do you have

any referrals of practitioners here in the States, in case I need to refer

out? Thanks.

Tami B.

NJ, USA

Breast cancer and liver secondaries

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Hi Tami, My web site is www.antriskell.co.uk though the Gerson section is

now being updated. I am now back at work following an accident and able to

take patients direct, as opposed to referring them onwards. Other web

connections are on the site. The Gerson Institute has a list of

practitioners in the states, their details are also on my site. Hope this

helps. Allshorn

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Thanks, ... its a shame I can't send folks to you, but I'm sure in many

cases that its best to see the patient in person, no?

Tami

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Dear

I am very interested to learn the details of Gerson Therapy. I would be

very grateful if you would send me any procedures or protocols that you

have on this.

Many thanks

Mohi Rezvani

Kidlington Herbal Practice

71 Benmead Road

Kidlington

OX5 2AX

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Dear , Get the lady to ring me on 01708 226061, I can send her

details

of the Gerson Therapy. She may also wish to talk to me on the phone as

I'm

not that far removed from Newmarket and am both a herbalist and a

Gerson

qualified practitioner. Gerson is not experimentation it has a proven

track

record but is very hard work and she needs to be both aware of what it

involves and committed to two years minimum working with it. If she is

working then she would almost certainly have to stop as at this stage

her

energies are needed for healing and she needs to focus on that.

If the secondaries are in the liver she might want to question the

wisdom of

having further chemotherapy which is undermining the liver still

further and

will make whatever alternative approach she follows that much more

difficult. Most are based on detoxification, nutrition and effective

elimination and more chemotherapy means a heavier burden for the liver

to

cope with.

At this stage I would simply send her an information pack which gives

basic

information and recommended further reading. Once she has decided what

she

wants to do she can then contact a practitioner for the medications

and

therapy to be tailored for her own circumstances and health.

This is done following a full medical history, including various blood

tests, which are repeated throughout the therapy to ensure correct

levels

are being maintained and to monitor progress.

Hope this is helpful.

Allshorn

Breast cancer and liver secondaries

List Owner

Graham White, MNIMH

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, without seeing patient its impossible to treat, you have too

little information otherwise. But I guess the comment was not intended

totally seriously anyway. Good luck

Re: Breast cancer and liver secondaries

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Dear Mohi, Information pack on its way. I can't send protocols etc. as these

are too complicated. Each patient is dealt with individually though the

broad outline can be obtained from Max Gerson's book. " A cancer Therapy

Results of Fifty Cases " Charlotte has also written more in The Gerson

Therapy, with Morton . However do bear in mind that in the 5o or so

years since his death the therapy has been worked with, in line with results

and new developments, some of which work and some of which don't. This sort

of information is available on the Gerson Practitioner training, details

from Gerson Institute, see my previous e-mail. Hope this is helpful.

RE: Breast cancer and liver secondaries

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> If the secondaries are in the liver she might want to question the wisdom of

> having further chemotherapy which is undermining the liver still further and

> will make whatever alternative approach she follows that much more

> difficult. Most are based on detoxification, nutrition and effective

> elimination and more chemotherapy means a heavier burden for the liver to

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Generally speaking, and there is no detail on this case, bu t <generally>

speaking, liver mets need dealing with rapidly. Interval assesment is

essential to establish the growth rate, and accurate imaging is essential to

gauge the susceptibiltiy to different potential therapeutic approaches. She

should have the scans assessed by interventional radiology to look at the

possibility of various forms of ablation (radiofrequency, cryosurgery etc)

as these can effectively debulk accessible liver lesions very rapidly and

are relatively non invasive. It is not exactly appropriate to suggest that

this patient should not do chemo with what little we know. Gerson is NOT a

proven therapy for stage 4 liver involved breast cancer at all, although it

has merits in certain other situations. Of course the chemo has to be the

right one. Naturally the patient can make whatever decision they chose, but

patients need information about options so they can make <informed>

decisions.. Either way, a strong nutritional /botanical program is an

essential framework for any chosen route.

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I recently met a mature student with College of Phyto, who has a

background in biochemistry and works for a company in London that

specialises in researching the options for cancer treatment. They keep

files on what evidence there is on new and existing cancer treatments

and give advice to patients on the most appropriate conventional,

integrated, and other options.

I've no personal experience of their service, but was very impressed

with the professionalism of the person that I met. They have a website

at http://www. canceroptions.co.uk. Might be worth suggesting to this

patient.

Robyn

jonathan treasure wrote:

>Naturally the patient can make whatever decision they chose, but

>patients need information about options so they can make <informed>

>decisions.. Either way, a strong nutritional /botanical program is an

>essential framework for any chosen route.

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