Re: natural and cosmetics...

[Guest guest]

At 05:51 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Is there a 'natural' way to put preservatives into cosmetic/toiletry products?

Hmm. <g>

First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say " 'natural way

to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you asking

about techniques used to add the preservatives?

[Guest guest]

Hi Omeomi

I am brand new to this list, but I've spent a few hours reading over posts, and

found several that said effective preservatives are man made.

I'm sure someone with a lot of knowledge on this can give you more satisfying

info than I can!

Sutton

natural and cosmetics...

Is there a 'natural' way to put preservatives into cosmetic/toiletry products?

Has anyone heard of a cosmetic grade corn starch?

Thanks for any info...

Cori

Sentient Nature, Ltd

[Guest guest]

Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc and would

like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve the lotions

etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

Does that make more sense?

By natural I mean a naturally produced product.....plant root, or something like

that. (Like using arrowroot as a colorant....it's a natural thing)

Cori

Hmm. <g>

First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say " 'natural way

to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you asking

about techniques used to add the preservatives?

[Guest guest]

Well, other people will speak more knowledgeably than I, but I think you'll

find that there really are no effective preservatives that meet your

requirement as stated. (And, as a side note, you might want to check

whether the natural colorants you're using are approved by the FDA for use

in cosmetics. There aren't really many requirements for cosmetics, besides

being clean and listing ingredients, but colorants is one area where there

are restrictions.)

At 06:21 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc and

>would like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve the

>lotions etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

>

>Does that make more sense?

>

>By natural I mean a naturally produced product.....plant root, or

>something like that. (Like using arrowroot as a colorant....it's a

>natural thing)

>

>Cori

> Hmm. <g>

>

> First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say " 'natural way

> to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

> preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you asking

> about techniques used to add the preservatives?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I received a file from you as an attachment. I will not open this file as

there are many viruses out right now.

If you would like me to open this file, please resend it and include a full

description of what you are sending me, and who you are, and why you are

sending it to me.

Thank you,

Cheryl

Re: natural and cosmetics...

> Well, other people will speak more knowledgeably than I, but I think

you'll

> find that there really are no effective preservatives that meet your

> requirement as stated. (And, as a side note, you might want to check

> whether the natural colorants you're using are approved by the FDA for use

> in cosmetics. There aren't really many requirements for cosmetics,

besides

> being clean and listing ingredients, but colorants is one area where there

> are restrictions.)

>

> At 06:21 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> >Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc and

> >would like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve the

> >lotions etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

> >

> >Does that make more sense?

> >

> >By natural I mean a naturally produced product.....plant root, or

> >something like that. (Like using arrowroot as a colorant....it's a

> >natural thing)

> >

> >Cori

> > Hmm. <g>

> >

> > First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say " 'natural

way

> > to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

> > preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you

asking

> > about techniques used to add the preservatives?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>Is there a 'natural' way to put preservatives into cosmetic/toiletry products?

If you search the CosmeticInfo archive for the serch term " naural

preservatives " (without the quotaion marks " " ), you should find your

answer. I just did the search. It works.

>Has anyone heard of a cosmetic grade corn starch?

Yes. Purity 21 from National Starch.

INCI name = Corn Starch

National Starch

10 Finderne Avenue

Bridgewater NJ 08807

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

>Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc and would

like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve the lotions

etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

>

>Does that make more sense?

Yes it does. It makes very good sense. Many multi-national personal

care companies would like to do this also. It's a worth goal. You

might want to view/download a paper on Hurdle Technology that can be

found at:

http://www.convergentcosmetics.com/downloads/HurdleTech.pdf

But, at this place in time, I am not aware of any natural and effective

preservatives for most personal care products.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

> " naural preservatives "

Must be getting late. Should read: " natural preservatives " .

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

HI Dremzo

Who are you addressing this post too. I'm still not too sure about whether these

emails are to me or everyone in general.

Thanks

Sutton

Re: natural and cosmetics...

> Well, other people will speak more knowledgeably than I, but I think

you'll

> find that there really are no effective preservatives that meet your

> requirement as stated. (And, as a side note, you might want to check

> whether the natural colorants you're using are approved by the FDA for use

> in cosmetics. There aren't really many requirements for cosmetics,

besides

> being clean and listing ingredients, but colorants is one area where there

> are restrictions.)

>

> At 06:21 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> >Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc and

> >would like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve the

> >lotions etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

> >

> >Does that make more sense?

> >

> >By natural I mean a naturally produced product.....plant root, or

> >something like that. (Like using arrowroot as a colorant....it's a

> >natural thing)

> >

> >Cori

> > Hmm. <g>

> >

> > First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say " 'natural

way

> > to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

> > preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you

asking

> > about techniques used to add the preservatives?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Aha! I believe you have a virus on your pc. I have received about 5 emails

with attachments from Merritt Orthopaedic something or other with a file

attached. The content of the email itself just says open the file to see

what I think...something like that. I recognize that as an attachment

possibly containing a virus, as it has been around before. I have not

opened the file and and have deleted the email.

Better scan your pc,

Cheryl

Re: natural and cosmetics...

>

>

> > Well, other people will speak more knowledgeably than I, but I think

> you'll

> > find that there really are no effective preservatives that meet your

> > requirement as stated. (And, as a side note, you might want to check

> > whether the natural colorants you're using are approved by the FDA for

use

> > in cosmetics. There aren't really many requirements for cosmetics,

> besides

> > being clean and listing ingredients, but colorants is one area where

there

> > are restrictions.)

> >

> > At 06:21 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> > >Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc

and

> > >would like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve

the

> > >lotions etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

> > >

> > >Does that make more sense?

> > >

> > >By natural I mean a naturally produced product.....plant root, or

> > >something like that. (Like using arrowroot as a colorant....it's a

> > >natural thing)

> > >

> > >Cori

> > > Hmm. <g>

> > >

> > > First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say

" 'natural

> way

> > > to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

> > > preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you

> asking

> > > about techniques used to add the preservatives?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Well, that certainly sounds like the SirCam virus at work, but I'm still

not sure who you're getting the email from. Can you give us the sender's

address from the emails with the attachment?

At 07:35 AM 8/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:

>Aha! I believe you have a virus on your pc. I have received about 5 emails

>with attachments from Merritt Orthopaedic something or other with a file

>attached. The content of the email itself just says open the file to see

>what I think...something like that. I recognize that as an attachment

>possibly containing a virus, as it has been around before. I have not

>opened the file and and have deleted the email.

>

>Better scan your pc,

>Cheryl

>

> Re: natural and cosmetics...

> >

> >

> > > Well, other people will speak more knowledgeably than I, but I think

> > you'll

> > > find that there really are no effective preservatives that meet your

> > > requirement as stated. (And, as a side note, you might want to check

> > > whether the natural colorants you're using are approved by the FDA for

>use

> > > in cosmetics. There aren't really many requirements for cosmetics,

> > besides

> > > being clean and listing ingredients, but colorants is one area where

>there

> > > are restrictions.)

> > >

> > > At 06:21 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> > > >Sorry to be confusing....I make 'natural' bath products, lotions etc

>and

> > > >would like to be able to add a natural ingredient that would preserve

>the

> > > >lotions etc., instead of using a 'chemical' preservative.....

> > > >

> > > >Does that make more sense?

> > > >

> > > >By natural I mean a naturally produced product.....plant root, or

> > > >something like that. (Like using arrowroot as a colorant....it's a

> > > >natural thing)

> > > >

> > > >Cori

> > > > Hmm. <g>

> > > >

> > > > First, what exactly do you mean " natural " ? And when you say

> " 'natural

> > way

> > > > to put preservatives into . . . " are you asking whether particular

> > > > preservatives are " natural " (however you define that), or are you

> > asking

> > > > about techniques used to add the preservatives?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:29:31 -0400, Jeanne Edna Thelwell wrote:

>Well, that certainly sounds like the SirCam virus at work, but I'm still

>not sure who you're getting the email from. Can you give us the sender's

>address from the emails with the attachment?

I received this email yesterday with the subject heading " Don't open

any attachments from me. "

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:28:46 +0000, egreen0701@... wrote:

>I've been wormed by the " I need your advice " Sir Cam

>Worm. If you get this email don't open it. It is a

>worm and very destructive. If you get it please let me

>know and I will give you the website to fix it.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com