Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 To me, this sounds like a variation of the Rife-machine theories -- except instead of EMF, sound is the replacement. IMHO: In both cases " Just finding the right frequency is the key to cure " .. > Dr Dietrick Klinghardt, in Lyme Disease; A Look Beyond Antibiotics suggested > that the severity of symptoms is related more to the total pathogen load, > one of which may be Lyme disease, as well as a genetically determined > ability to excrete neurotoxins. A few of the many conditions he looks at are > roundworms, tapeworms, toxoplasmosis, clostridia, leptospirosis, Bartonella, > mycoplasma, and molds and fungi, as well as mercury. Some of his treatments > include pulsed electromagnetic fields, niacin, herbs, minerals, bee venom > and sometimes antibiotics. He advocates a more comprehensive approach, > viewing the Lyme disease as just one pathogen capable of causing symptoms. > Interestingly he believes that large doses of Niacin kill Bb and suggests > that Dr Hoffer's discovery of niacin for schizophrenia may have more to do > with antimicrobial qualities than current orthomolecular beliefs. A > physician in the audience confronted Dr Klinghardt on one fascinating idea > he presented that was so beyond > the scope of credibility, that had Dr Klinghardt provided supporting > research, many, including this writer would still have had trouble accepting > it. The concept is that microrecordings of the sounds of microbes, when > amplified and played back to the patient increased the immune response > against those microbes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Dalton, I think this is interesting, but can't get the link to work. Could you repaste it? tia > > > This was from the lymeinfo mailing list. I thought many might find it > interesting. > pj > > [RoseNote: The Orthomolecular Health-Medicine Society held its 11th annual > meeting in February 2005 in San Francisco CA. Two prominent physicians spoke > about Lyme Disease.] > > **** > > “Dr Raphael Stricker spoke on Lyme Disease: The Hidden Epidemic. He > described the significant public health threat that Lyme disease represents > and talked about two barriers to effective diagnosis and treatment, the role > of co infections and uncertainty regarding a therapeutic endpoint for > treatment.†> > “Dr Cowden discussed Non-pharmaceutical Remedies for Chronic Lyme > Borreliosis.†> > **** > > http://www.bipolarodyssey.com/OHM.htmT > > Too Good To Be True? > > Nutrients Quiet the Unquiet Brain > > A Four Generation Bipolar Odyssey > > This conference brought together professionals from the Orthomolecular and > mainstream traditions. Such notables as Dr Kunin, Dr Dietrick > Klinghardt, Dr Raphael Stricker, Dr and Dr Fallon > presented their perspective on the assessment and treatment on heart and > Lyme disease. discussion on the differing paradigms, what I call the > soil " and " germ " paradigms was very interesting. Speakers and exhibitors > brought exciting and promising perspectives to the meeting. For example, I > learned of a company that provides as recommended in the book, a > comprehensive paradigm-independent assessment based on research based > software. Instead of being bound by a particular provider's paradigm, the > software writes comprehensive reports taking into account the totality of > the known research that applies to a person's various lab results. See page > 340 of Too Good to be True for a description of the problem that may be > being solved here. Similarly there was a company that has software that > combines a person's data with research to create a diet specific for that > person. The following is only a partial summary of some of the presentations > > > > Highlights from Orthomolecular Health Medicine Meeting, February 2005 > > Dr Garry Gordon, speaking on Nucleic Acid and Inflammation, not only > introduced attendees to the concept of silencing genes with RNA I > (Interference) but also of the possibility of modulating RNA levels to > change the levels of any protein in the body. He discussed cases where RNA > Nutriswitches changed levels of inflammation, glucose, lipids, triglycerides > and excitotoxins. In other words, in the future approaches like this would > specifically target needed RNA protein to compensate for the genetic > metabolic defects. > > Dr Berg from HEMEX Laboratories spoke on ISAC, Immune System > Activation of Coagulation, a condition in which coagulation cascades are > activated leading to decreased blood flow. This is seen in a number of > chronic illnesses, including Lyme disease and can correlate with increased > pathogen load. Considering that a capillary is 8-10 um in diameter and a > red blood cell (RBC) is 7 um, any blockage could retard blood flow. When the > blood flows smoothly oxygen diffusion time is 2 seconds. When the capillary > is clogged with fibrin the oxygen diffusion time is 5.3 minutes. With Lyme > patients, 89% of them had positive ISAC panels, meaning their blood flow was > not normal. Heparin restores blood flow and may be effective with psychotic > individuals when their psychosis is due to reduced blood flow. One physician > had seen dramatic response in a psychotic patient using Heparin alone. HEMEX > solves " blood curdling mysteries. " > > Dr Levy addressed the topic, Vitamin C, Calcium, and Circulation. > What I most remember of his presentation is his declarative unambiguous > statement, " Calcium is the worst supplement in the world, " or words to that > effect. He said that excess calcium accelerates atherosclerosis and other > degenerative diseases. On the other hand Vitamin C can actually reduce > atherosclerosis if given in large enough doses. > > Dr Raphael Stricker spoke on Lyme Disease: The Hidden Epidemic. He described > the significant public health threat that Lyme disease represents and talked > about two barriers to effective diagnosis and treatment, the role of co > infections and uncertainty regarding a therapeutic endpoint for treatment. > He pointed out the need for multiple interventions and a prolonged > intervention to deal with these debilitating illnesses. For musculoskeletal > disease the initial treatment is oral antibiotic but for neurological > disease the initial treatment is IV antibiotics. > > Dr Cowden discussed Non-pharmaceutical Remedies for Chronic Lyme > Borreliosis. He touched on some of the 300 + illness that Borrelia imitates, > including chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, MS, ALS, and psychosis. Then he > outlined an integrative approach including, among other things, enzymes, > vitamins and minerals, detoxifying herbs, homeopathics, Samento, Laser Detox > and light beam generator. Progress was measured in symptom reduction. > Fourteen in the experimental group reported major reduction in symptoms > compared to a control group of equal numbers. > > Dr Dietrick Klinghardt, in Lyme Disease; A Look Beyond Antibiotics suggested > that the severity of symptoms is related more to the total pathogen load, > one of which may be Lyme disease, as well as a genetically determined > ability to excrete neurotoxins. A few of the many conditions he looks at are > roundworms, tapeworms, toxoplasmosis, clostridia, leptospirosis, Bartonella, > mycoplasma, and molds and fungi, as well as mercury. Some of his treatments > include pulsed electromagnetic fields, niacin, herbs, minerals, bee venom > and sometimes antibiotics. He advocates a more comprehensive approach, > viewing the Lyme disease as just one pathogen capable of causing symptoms. > Interestingly he believes that large doses of Niacin kill Bb and suggests > that Dr Hoffer's discovery of niacin for schizophrenia may have more to do > with antimicrobial qualities than current orthomolecular beliefs. A > physician in the audience confronted Dr Klinghardt on one fascinating idea > he presented that was so beyond > the scope of credibility, that had Dr Klinghardt provided supporting > research, many, including this writer would still have had trouble accepting > it. The concept is that microrecordings of the sounds of microbes, when > amplified and played back to the patient increased the immune response > against those microbes. > > Dr Floyd Taub gave a talk entitled Clinical Data on Fatigue Reduction Due to > a New Immunomodulator. He discussed a new immunomodulator called COBAT that > modifies cytokine responses, thereby reducing fatigue in patients with > conditions that normally provoke a cytokine response. In one study of 13 > patients the fatigue level of all but one was reduced by an average of 53%. > COBAT does not treat the underlying condition. It changes the pattern of > cytokine responses. Usefulness for patients with CNS disorders were not > discussed, but this is a subject worthy of exploration. > > Dr Rentz addressed The Broad-Spectrum Antimicrobial Properties of > Oligodynamic AG+ as a Silver Hydrosol. He introduced the attendees to a new > structure of silver that is more effective and has less side effects than > colloidal silver. This involves silver ions which, because of their small > size have a greater antibacterial and antifungal impact than colloidal > silver. Dr Rentz advised China authorities on the potential of silver > hydrosol for SAR's virus and the Chinese are currently exploring this. > Apparently the silver does not accumulate in the skin causing the > discoloration that characterized blue-bloods in an earlier time. > > Dr spoke on a Pediatric Overview: The Children of Lyme > Disease. He has treated some 7000 children over the years. He stated that > 50% have no tick bite history; 10% or less had the bull's eye rash. But all > lived in tick infested areas and had dramatic decline in functioning > including decreased stamina, insomnia, headaches, nausea, poor short term > memory, behavior outbursts and mood swings, difficulties in thinking and > expressing thoughts, reading, writing, and decision making. The disease can > be passed through pregnancy and breast milk. He showed a video of four > children being examined who had Lyme, who now 10+ years later are free of > the disease. (One is studying to be a physician.) Watching his compassion > for these children as he interviewed and examined them was moving. > > Dr Fallon talked about The Neuropsychiatric Aspects of Lyme Disease. > In this comprehensive talk he discussed how spirochetes invade and attach to > brain cells, how cytokines cause indirect damage. He discussed the Columbia > Lyme disease study, the results of which are to be published some time this > year. Among the findings: Lyme Disease causes verifiable brain dysfunction > and blood flow deficits especially in the para-limbic areas leading to, > among other things, disruption of attention, memory and learning, decreased > immune response and altered perception of pain, smell, and taste. (This is > consistent with descriptions in Too Good to be True.) Treatment, even for > those who already had IV antibiotic treatment improves blood flow and > reduces symptoms of fatigue. In a discussion after his presentation he > mentioned that the greatest improvement in circulation appeared to be in the > right hemisphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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