Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 http://www.y2khealthanddetox.com/truthchol.html The clear message from new scientific findings is that there is no safe " normal range " for homocysteine. While commercial laboratories state that normal homocysteine can range from 5 to 15 micromoles per liter of blood, epidemiological data reveal that homocysteine levels above 6.3 cause a steep, progressive risk of heart attack (the American Heart Association's journal Circulation, Nov. 15, 1995, 2825-30). One study found each 3-unit increase in homocysteine equals a 35% increase in myocardial-infarction (heart-attack) risk (American Journal of Epidemiology, 1996, 143[9]:845-59). > > Hi bleu, > > do you know what is the ideal level of homocystein? I was tested and > the result is 7,4 (lab range: 3,4 - 20,4). Despite of this pretty low > number I was put on B6 (60 mg), acid folic (20mg) and B12 (1000 mg). > I have not noticed any remarkable effects so far. > > etta > > > > > This is my hypothesis, It may change, I am still learning. > > > > I have found that most of the stress that we are under is due to > > Homocysteine. This is a nerve toxin and can cause a host of > problems in > > the body, including heart problems, mental problems etc. > > > > Homocysteine is also related to causing coagulation. I suspect it > is > > one of the major causes. > > > > Homocysteine is also related to Glutathione. High Homocysteine = > Low > > Glutathione. > > > > To detoxify homocysteine you need B12 (in high doses), B6, folic > acid. > > These would appear to be the major players. (Other factors helpful > are > > Potassium, Sodium, Liquorice, Zinc, other trace minerals). Plus > others > > such as Sam-e ( I have not tried Sam-e). > > > > Homocysteine would appear to rise because of low B12. One of the > main > > factors causing B12 depletion is because of bacteria infections. > > Especially C. Pn and H.-Pylori. (Probably many others too.) As is > folic > > acid. > > > > Low B12 is related to low blood volume. > > > > Low B12 is one of the main factors causing Pernicious Anaemia > > (otherwise known as 's Anaemia). > > > > 's is a fundamental breakdown of the adrenal gland, this > could > > be primary, secondary, and be on both sides, I.e aldesterone or > > cortisol. (Most of us are suffering " I believe " on the Aldesterone > > side.) > > > > In Pernicious Anaemia however the problem stems from the HPA, this > is > > related to low aldesterone and high ACTH, High cortisol. This > causes > > adrenal crisis, albeit that the adrenal glands appear under > stimulation > > tests to be functioning adequately. > > > > Serum B12 test is useless. Low B12 is of the TISSUE as well as the > > blood. But the Serum test should be ignored. Instead one should > test > > Homocysteine. This costs about 60 UKP. High Homocysteine would > alert > > one to the major problem at the heart of the issue. > > > > My own case has been remarkable, I started taking high doses of B12 > > about 3-4 weeks ago, at that time I was on the brink of death. I > had > > been to the ER on 4 occasions, with suspected adrenal crisis. I > could > > not tolerate light. This all started about 4 months ago after about > 3 > > months on Benecar. - Today I am out in the sun painting, and > feeling > > better than in years. > > > > I had a load of stim tests, and other tests. The stim results I > have > > not been given access too, despite requesting them over 15 times > now. > > The Endo, just scribbled a note saying I do not have 's. > > > > My normal tests results I do have are: > > > > ACTH was 87 (9-52) > > Aldesterone > > 84 pmol/l (83-985) > > 30 pg/ml (30-355) > > B12 was 566 (200-800) > > Cortisol was high. > > > > Stratton has a protocol and part of that includes very high > > doses of B12, as well as a number of abx. It was his protocol that > got > > me on the B12 Hunt, despite my " normal " results. > > > > When I started with B12 I noticed a major effect. Soon after I did > IM > > injection of 1-mg, this caused me to have a nasty shock. I wont be > > doing that again for a while. (Low potassium and low blood > pressure, > > serious head problems). I then started on oral doses, and quickly > built > > up. I felt a sensation of detoxifying in the brain, and an > oxygenation > > of the brain. Also I noticed a lot of sinus draining. Tinnitus has > also > > started to subside. > > > > After starting B12 I started to have some minor problems with my > heart, > > (gas in that area). I then quickly added Potassium and this then > > resolved. The first few days were most interesting. It felt like my > > whole body was an electrical storm. This quickly subsided. After 3- > 4 > > weeks now, I do not really notice the B12 in any great way. But I > > suspect I have a long way to go. > > > > My brain functions are much better than in a long time and I no > longer > > feel anxious. But I still have trouble with sleep. (but it is much > > improved over 1 month ago). > > > > bleu > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Stratton Suggests flooding the system. that means I think quite a bit more than 1-mg. I am taking 4-mg. > > Hi bleu, > > do you know what is the ideal level of homocystein? I was tested and > the result is 7,4 (lab range: 3,4 - 20,4). Despite of this pretty low > number I was put on B6 (60 mg), acid folic (20mg) and B12 (1000 mg). > I have not noticed any remarkable effects so far. > > etta > > > > > This is my hypothesis, It may change, I am still learning. > > > > I have found that most of the stress that we are under is due to > > Homocysteine. This is a nerve toxin and can cause a host of > problems in > > the body, including heart problems, mental problems etc. > > > > Homocysteine is also related to causing coagulation. I suspect it > is > > one of the major causes. > > > > Homocysteine is also related to Glutathione. High Homocysteine = > Low > > Glutathione. > > > > To detoxify homocysteine you need B12 (in high doses), B6, folic > acid. > > These would appear to be the major players. (Other factors helpful > are > > Potassium, Sodium, Liquorice, Zinc, other trace minerals). Plus > others > > such as Sam-e ( I have not tried Sam-e). > > > > Homocysteine would appear to rise because of low B12. One of the > main > > factors causing B12 depletion is because of bacteria infections. > > Especially C. Pn and H.-Pylori. (Probably many others too.) As is > folic > > acid. > > > > Low B12 is related to low blood volume. > > > > Low B12 is one of the main factors causing Pernicious Anaemia > > (otherwise known as 's Anaemia). > > > > 's is a fundamental breakdown of the adrenal gland, this > could > > be primary, secondary, and be on both sides, I.e aldesterone or > > cortisol. (Most of us are suffering " I believe " on the Aldesterone > > side.) > > > > In Pernicious Anaemia however the problem stems from the HPA, this > is > > related to low aldesterone and high ACTH, High cortisol. This > causes > > adrenal crisis, albeit that the adrenal glands appear under > stimulation > > tests to be functioning adequately. > > > > Serum B12 test is useless. Low B12 is of the TISSUE as well as the > > blood. But the Serum test should be ignored. Instead one should > test > > Homocysteine. This costs about 60 UKP. High Homocysteine would > alert > > one to the major problem at the heart of the issue. > > > > My own case has been remarkable, I started taking high doses of B12 > > about 3-4 weeks ago, at that time I was on the brink of death. I > had > > been to the ER on 4 occasions, with suspected adrenal crisis. I > could > > not tolerate light. This all started about 4 months ago after about > 3 > > months on Benecar. - Today I am out in the sun painting, and > feeling > > better than in years. > > > > I had a load of stim tests, and other tests. The stim results I > have > > not been given access too, despite requesting them over 15 times > now. > > The Endo, just scribbled a note saying I do not have 's. > > > > My normal tests results I do have are: > > > > ACTH was 87 (9-52) > > Aldesterone > > 84 pmol/l (83-985) > > 30 pg/ml (30-355) > > B12 was 566 (200-800) > > Cortisol was high. > > > > Stratton has a protocol and part of that includes very high > > doses of B12, as well as a number of abx. It was his protocol that > got > > me on the B12 Hunt, despite my " normal " results. > > > > When I started with B12 I noticed a major effect. Soon after I did > IM > > injection of 1-mg, this caused me to have a nasty shock. I wont be > > doing that again for a while. (Low potassium and low blood > pressure, > > serious head problems). I then started on oral doses, and quickly > built > > up. I felt a sensation of detoxifying in the brain, and an > oxygenation > > of the brain. Also I noticed a lot of sinus draining. Tinnitus has > also > > started to subside. > > > > After starting B12 I started to have some minor problems with my > heart, > > (gas in that area). I then quickly added Potassium and this then > > resolved. The first few days were most interesting. It felt like my > > whole body was an electrical storm. This quickly subsided. After 3- > 4 > > weeks now, I do not really notice the B12 in any great way. But I > > suspect I have a long way to go. > > > > My brain functions are much better than in a long time and I no > longer > > feel anxious. But I still have trouble with sleep. (but it is much > > improved over 1 month ago). > > > > bleu > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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