Re: Ammonia

October 12, 2007

Each hospital has different " normal " limits. Most lab result print outs I've

seen include the normal limit range next to the result and may have a H or L

next to the result to indicate if it's Higher or Lower than the average/normal

limits.

But here are some links I came across.

Ammonia test from labtestsonline:

http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/ammonia/test.html

Liver Function Tests:

http://home3.inet.tele.dk/omni/alttest.htm

This is from Kaiser that has their norm limits:

http://www.kaiserpermanente.org/kpweb/healthency.do?hwid=hw1768 & sectionId=hw1792\

& contextId=hw1768

encephalopathy:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3185.htm

MaC

preciouspenny3 wrote: I

got the lab tests back that were taken Tuesday. My ammonia level was

94. I know it's a little high, but is it very high? I've been moody

lately and a little mean, plus been getting a bit confused and forget

what I'm saying in the middle of my sentences. I'm very tired a lot.

I didn't think too much of it. I just thought I was tired. They've

never tested my ammonia before. This is the first time. Penny

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Normal ammonia at the university of Colorado is 16 to 47. I have had them at 54

before, but ammonia level is not a relieable test for PSE. My hepatologist has

said the the best way to find out if you have PSE is to treat it with lactulose,

and if there is improvement, then that argues for a positive diagnosis. Here is

a clinical test used by many hepatologists.

http://www.duphalac.com/professionals/portosystemicencephalopathy/psetest/0,998,\

10319-2-0,00.htm

Ammonia

I got the lab tests back that were taken Tuesday. My ammonia level

was

94. I know it's a little high, but is it very high? I've been moody

lately and a little mean, plus been getting a bit confused and forget

what I'm saying in the middle of my sentences. I'm very tired a lot.

I didn't think too much of it. I just thought I was tired. They've

never tested my ammonia before. This is the first time. Penny

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October 12, 2007

Thanks for the links. It does say H next to it and normal is 11-51.

I guess I was wondering if it was high enough to cause the symptoms.

Penny

I got the lab tests back that

were taken Tuesday. My ammonia level was

> 94. I know it's a little high, but is it very high? I've been

moody

> lately and a little mean, plus been getting a bit confused and

forget

> what I'm saying in the middle of my sentences. I'm very tired a

lot.

> I didn't think too much of it. I just thought I was tired.

They've

> never tested my ammonia before. This is the first time. Penny

>

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October 12, 2007

Oh man.. now I have to have my ammonia score too! Penny your symtoms

sound an awful lot like what Im experiencing right now. But some of my

fatique could be due to diabetes and thyroid problems that Ive had for

years.. Only been this bad once before tho and thats when I was anemic

for a varices bleed..fixed the bleed and within a few days I felt like

a spring chicken.. That forgetting in mid sentence and word finding is

new to me too.. Like Mac said, different labs use different scoring

systems so look next to the score and there should be a range of whats

normal for that test and if there is an H or L this will mean high or

low. At least thats been true in my case..Debra

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>

> I got the lab tests back that were taken Tuesday. My ammonia level

was

> 94. I know it's a little high, but is it very high? I've been moody

> lately and a little mean, plus been getting a bit confused and forget

> what I'm saying in the middle of my sentences. I'm very tired a

lot.

> I didn't think too much of it. I just thought I was tired. They've

> never tested my ammonia before. This is the first time. Penny

>

October 12, 2007

Thanks for the info and the link. Penny

>

> Normal ammonia at the university of Colorado is 16 to 47. I have

had them at 54 before, but ammonia level is not a relieable test for

PSE. My hepatologist has said the the best way to find out if you

have PSE is to treat it with lactulose, and if there is improvement,

then that argues for a positive diagnosis. Here is a clinical test

used by many hepatologists.

>

http://www.duphalac.com/professionals/portosystemicencephalopathy/pset

est/0,998,10319-2-0,00.htm

>

> Ammonia

>

> I got the lab tests back that were taken Tuesday. My

ammonia level was

>

> 94. I know it's a little high, but is it very high? I've been

moody

>

> lately and a little mean, plus been getting a bit confused and

forget

>

> what I'm saying in the middle of my sentences. I'm very tired a

lot.

>

> I didn't think too much of it. I just thought I was tired.

They've

>

> never tested my ammonia before. This is the first time. Penny

>

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October 12, 2007

Wow, I must be worse off than I thought. I just realized that what I

said in my last post is almost verbatim what Mac said.. If you are a

94 and the high range for normal is 51.. then that seems really high

to me.. I guess I better get those tests too. Debra

I got the lab tests back that

> were taken Tuesday. My ammonia level was

> > 94. I know it's a little high, but is it very high? I've been

> moody

> > lately and a little mean, plus been getting a bit confused and

> forget

> > what I'm saying in the middle of my sentences. I'm very tired a

> lot.

> > I didn't think too much of it. I just thought I was tired.

> They've

> > never tested my ammonia before. This is the first time. Penny

> >

> > __

> >

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> >

October 12, 2007

The other night while searching for articles, i came across one titled "

Hypothyroidism mistaken for hepatic encephalopathy " in the AASLD publication

'hepatology'. I cannot find it now, but I will keep on looking. I have strange

problems, including temper tantrums. Usually I will just repeat myself to Sharon

over and over, until she gets mad. Ardis did this too, and I have started to

preface sentences with " I don't know if I've mentioned this before, so forgive

me... I have also had to back up my PC several times, because I lose things.

delete things, and sometimes I read my emails, and do not recognize what I've

said. This is the scariest thing for me. One day last summer I came in to find

Ardis sitting in a pile of spironolactone. There were 500 pills scattered on the

carpet, and I never did find out how many she took. Anyway, she went by

ambulance that day, and lived all summer, so it turned out not to be that big a

deal. Just scary.

Re: Ammonia

Oh man.. now I have to have my ammonia score too! Penny your

symtoms