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posted 23 March 2005 19:43

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Lyme disease: A Look Beyond Antibiotics

Dietrich K.Klinghardt, MD, PhD 1/7/05

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In the last decade the majority of outcome-oriented physicians

observed a major shift: we realized that it was neither the lack of

vitamins or growth hormone that made our patients ill. We discovered

that toxicity and chronic infections were most often at the core of

the client's suffering. We watched the discussion, which infection

may be the primary one: mycoplasma, stealth viruses, HHV-6,

trichomonas, Chlamydia pneumoniae, leptospirosis, mutated strep, or

whatelse?

The new kid on the block is Borrelia Burgdorferi (Bb) and some of us

have looked at it for a long time as possibly the bug that opens the

door for all the other infections to enter the system. Lyme disease

has become a buzzword in the alternative medical field. Since none of

the recommended treatments are specific to either one of the

microbes, we can never assume that we really know what we treated

once a patient has recovered.

Microbiologist Gitte Jensen, PhD had shown, that the older we get,

the more foreign DNA is attached to our own DNA. Somewhere along the

line pathogenic microbes invade the host's DNA and become a permanent

part of it. Since we use only 2% of our DNA, it may not be a problem.

In fact, it may make us who we finally become. It may also cause a

number of symptoms and chronic illness. Genius Guenther Enderlein's

discoveries take us off the hook: if one microbe can change into

another given the right environment, why bother to find out, who we

are infected with?

The book " Lab 257 " suggests that Bb is a an escaped man-made US

military bio-warfare organism (just like myoplasma incognitus and HHV

6).

Other authors suggest that different subtypes of Borrelia which cause

illness in humans, such as B. afzelii and B.garinii have probably

existed longer than B.burgdorferi and occur naturally (1, 2) and have

been with us for a long time, maybe centuries or more.

Neurologist Prof. J.Faust MD, PhD of the Albert-Ludwig University in

Freiburg, Germany (3) related many neurological and psychiatric

illnesses to spirochete infections as early as the 1960s. He was so

skilled in his clinical knowledge that he could – only based on

clinical neurological symptoms - accurately predict which valley in

the Black Forest the infected patient was from! This clearly was a

time before Bb - showing that non-syphilis spirochete infections were

around earlier then the famous Bb outbreak in Connecticut in the mid

seventies. It also makes a strong statement to the fact how easily

these creatures may mutate and adapt to local conditions. It may

however validate the findings published in " Lab 257 " : Tuebingen, the

place where German/US warfare spirochete expert Traub was continuing

his spirochete experiments in the early 50s, is situated in the Black

Forest also. Were these spirochetes genuine or have they escaped from

a university laboratory?

Making the diagnosis

It appears, that many patients with MS, ALS, Parkinson's disease,

autism, joint arthritis, chronic fatigue, sarcoidosis and even cancer

are infected with Borrelia burgdorferi. But is the infection causing

the illness or is it an opportunistic infection simply occurring in

people weakened by other illnesses.

My experience is based

a) using direct microscopic proof of the presence of Borrelia

burgdoferi (Bb) and other spirochetes (4, 5)

the information many affected clients have brought to me

c) my own clinical training and experience ( 30 years in Medical

practice, 15 years Bb cognizant)

d) ART testing (autonomic response testing), which is the most

advanced and scientifically validated method of muscle testing (6)

e) lab parameters affected by Lyme:

· Abnormal lipid profile (moderate cholesterol elevation with

significant LDL elevation)

· insulin resistance

· borderline low wbc, normal SED rate and CRP

· normal thryroid hormone tests but positive test and

excellent response to giving T3

· type 2 (high cortisol, low DHEA) or type 3 adrenal failure (low

cortisol and DHEA)

· low testosterone and DHEA

· decreased urine concentration (low specific gravity)

Bb tends to infect the B-lymphocytes and other components of the

immune system which are responsible for creating the antibodies,

which are then measured by an ELISA test or Western Blot test. Since

antibody production is greatly compromised in infected individuals,

it makes no sense to use these tests as the gold standard or

benchmark for the presence of Bb (7). We also are aware that in

endemic areas in the US up to 22% of stinging flies and mosquitoes

(2, 8, 9,10) are carriers of Bb and co-infections. In South East

Germany and Eastern Europe, 12 % of mosquitoes have been shown to be

infected. Also many spiders, flees, lice and other stinging insects

carry spirochetes and co-infections.

Making the history of a tick bite a condition for a physician to be

willing to even consider the possibility of a Bb infection seems

cynical and cruel.

To use conventional diagnostic tests such as the Western Blot, one

has to think in paradoxes: the patient has to be treated with an

effective treatment modality first before the patient recovers enough

to produce the antibodies, which then are looked for in the test. A

positive Western Blot proves that the treatment given worked to some

degree.

A negative Western Blot does not and cannot prove the absence of the

infection.

Having taken another route altogether, we have recognized the

following:

Today many if not most Americans are carriers of the infection. Most

infected people are symptomatic, but the severity and type of the

symptoms varies greatly. The microbes often invade tissues that had

been injured: your chronic neck pain or sciatica really may be a Bb

infection. The same may be true for your chronic TMJ problem, your

adrenal fatigue, your thyroid dysfunction, your GERD and many other

seemingly unrelated symptoms.

In most places the diagnosis of an active Bb infection is made only,

if the symptoms are severe, persistent, obvious and many non-specific

and fruitless avenues of treatment have been exhausted. Acute

new " typical " cases of Bb infection are rare in my practice. Symptoms

tend to get stranger and more obscure every year.

Frequently, if the patient is fortunate enough to see a practitioner

who is " Lyme cognizant " , the diagnosis of a supposedly fresh case of

symptomatic Lyme disease is made when a significant tissue toxin

level has been reached (threshold phenomenon) or when a new co-

infection has occurred recently. The symptoms can mimic any other

existing medical, psychological or psychiatric condition. The list of

significant co-infections is limited: roundworms, tapeworms,

threadworms, toxoplasmosis, giardia and amoebas, clostridia, the

herpes virus family, parvovirus B 19, active measles (in the small

intestine), leptospirosis, chronic strep infections and their

mutations, Babesia, Brucella, Ehrlichiosis, Bartonella, mycoplasma,

Rickettsia, Bartonella and a few others. Molds and fungi are always

part of the picture.

The pattern of co-infections and the other preexisting conditions,

such as mercury toxicity, determine the symptom picture, but not the

severity.

The severity of symptoms correlates most closely with the overall

summation or body burden of coexisting conditions and with the

genetically determined ability to excrete neurotoxins.

The genes coding for the glutathione S-transferase and for the

different alleles of apolipoprotein E (E2, E3 and E4) play a mojor

role. E2 can carry twice as much sulfhydryl-affinitive toxins (such

as mercury and lead) out of the cell as the E3 subtype, E4 carries

out none. Trouble in the methylation, acetylation and sulfation

pathways are also common. Other factors, such as diet and food

allergies, past toxic and electromagnetic exposures, emotional

factors and unhealed ancestral trauma, scar interference fields and

occlusal jaw and bite problems are also important (6).

Taken all of the above into account, we do not distinguish between

people who have the Bb infection and those who don't. We distinguish

between people who have Lyme disease and those who don't

a) Patients who are infected with any type of Borrelia and are

symptomatic have " Lyme " disease

healthy people who are not symptomatic often already have a

spirochete infection as well. They may or may not be disasters

waiting to happen. But they do not (yet) have Lyme " disease " . Most

often several of the " co-infections " are already present prior to the

infection with Bb or other spirochetes.

In treatment we focus on exploring the difference between symptomatic

and asymptomatic carriers. We treat what the symptomatic person is

missing (such as enough magnesium in the diet) or has extra (such as

mercury) compared to the asymptomatic one. The group suffering most

are newborn babies and young children, who rarely are diagnosed

correctly and therefore are not treated appropriately. They often

carry the labels ADHD, autistic spectrum disorder, seizure disorder

and others. Detoxifying these kids with transdermal DMPS and treating

the chronic infections is often curative.

The 3 Components of Lyme disease

Lyme disease has 3 components, which should be recognized and

addressed with treatment:

Component #1:

The presence of spirochete infection and co-infections

The co-infections are bacterial, viral, fungal and parasitic. Since

the spirochetes paralyze multiple aspects of the immune system, the

organism is without defenses against many microbes. Many - if not

most - of the co-infections are really a consequence of the

spirochete infection and not truly a 22simultaneously occurring " co-

infection " .

For this aspect of treatment we use pulsed electromagnetic fields

(KMT-microbial inhibition frequencies), niacin in high doses (12)

herbs, minerals, bee venom (6) and - sometimes - antiparasitic

medication and antibiotics.

The KMT microcurrent technology is new and revolutionary(17). The

instruments are FDA approved for pain control. Designed by Japanese

engineers they use 4 different - but simultaneously applied - high

frequency superimposed biological waveforms.

The interference pattern is creating thousands of harmonics which are

then manipulated into the specific published microbial inhibition

frequencies ( against Bb, mycoplasma etc.). This stealthy

microcurrent travels freely through the body reaching every tissue.

The instrument measures the skin conductance over a 100 times/second

adjusting the amperage constantly (so that the body never creates

habituation/resistance against it). The microbes are inhibited in

their metabolic and sexual activity and gradually die out or

disappear from the body. The instrument looks not much different than

a TENS unit and is applied via 4 electrodes to the skin or used by

translating the electric field into a vector force field using signal

enhancer technology.

The KMT frequencies are designed to not only interfere with the

reproductive mechanism of the microbes and parasites, but also to

awaken the immune system, entrain the white cells to recognize the

invaders and at the same time help to absorb and shuttle the

effective medication to the body compartment, where the infection

actually is. Otherwise, most treatment substances given never reach

the target in sufficient concentration.

Component #2: the illness producing effect of microbial exo- and

endotoxins

Most of these are neurotoxins, some appear to be carcinogenic as

well, others block the T3 receptor on the cell wall, etc. Decreased

hormonal output of the gonads and adrenals is a commonly observed

neurotoxin mediated problem in Lyme patients. Central inhibition of

the pineal gland, hypothalamus and pituitary gland is almost always

an issue that has to be resolved somewhat independently from treating

the infection.

Furthermore, biotoxins from the infectious agents have a synergistic

effect with heavy metals, xenobiotics and thioethers from cavitations

and NICO lesions in the jaw and from root filled teeth. My published

neurotoxin elimination protocol can be downloaded for free (6).

We use toxin binding agents such as fiber rich ground up raw

vegetables, chlorella, cholestyramine ( 13 ), beta-Sitosterol,

propolis powder, apple pectin and mucuna bean powder ( 14 ). A solid

heavy metal detoxification program should be used simultaneously with

the first phases of the Lyme treatment. Safe toxic metal elimination

is an art unto itself. However, the information is widely available

now( 15 ).

The more difficult objective is to choose agents and methods to

trigger the release of neurotoxins from their respective binding

sites. Only then can they be transported to the liver, processed and

enter the small intestine from where they can be carried out by the

binding agents.

The toxins occupying the T3 receptor are competitively displaced by

oral T3 - cycled with the protocol (available at most

compounding pharmacies). The toxins blocking the cortisol receptor

are mobilized with the herb forskolin. CGF chlorella - a

sophisticated mix of chlorella and chlorella growth factor (14) - and

cilantro given together with a non-irradiated mucuna bean powder

mobilize most everything else. I also use alternate day dosing of an

energetically enhanced phospholipid/EDTA/Alpha-Lipoic acid mix

( " Phospholipid Exchange " ) which is currently the most tolerated and

effective form of phospholipids for the Lyme patient (14).

The KMT microcurrent frequencies dramatically increase the speed of

toxin mobilization and access body compartments the biochemical

compounds cannot (17).

Psychotherapeutic intervention (15) to uncover and treat old trauma

is most profoundly effective in triggering a neurotoxin release when

none of the other methods appear to work anymore. After each APN

session we pre-medicate the patient with CGF-chlorella. Sometimes the

extraction of a devitalized tooth or the injection of one of the

facial/cervical ganglia with glutathione or another detox agent can

trigger a major neurotoxin release

(16). Lymph drainage in combination with colon hydrotherapy accesses

toxins stored in the lymphatic body-compartment.

Component #3:

The immune reactions provoked by the presence of both toxins and

microbes (there are 3 sub-possibilities, which have to be recognized

and addressed)

The immune reactions are largely depending on host factors, such as

genetics, prior illnesses, mental-emotional baggage, early childhood

traumatization, current exposure to electromagnetic fields (sleeping

location, use of cell phones, poor wiring in car or home, etc), food

allergies and diet, socio-economic background, marital stress etc.

1: Anergy - the absence of reaction due to the successful evasion of

the host-defenses . One of the more known mechanisms the microbes use

to create anergy is hypercoagulation. The microbes tend to live in

the endothelium, where the food is most abundant. They trigger the

host's coagulation mechanism to lay down a layer of fibrin on top of

them to evade recognition by the immune system. etc. For this aspect

we use 3 techniques:

a) the KMT-microcurrent technology and homeopathics to wake up and

entrain the immune system;

Rechtsregulat ( " right rotatory fluid " ) which is an enzyme rich

extract of fermented fruits and vegetables (14). It has outperformed

the s.c. injection of heparin in our own trials. Lumbrokinase is far

more effective then Nattokinase. Both appear weak when compared to

Rechtsregulat. We also work on recognizing and eliminating those

client's system (geopathic stress, EM stress, food allergies,

emotional factors, interference fields such as scars and disturbed

ganglia and we substitute vitamins and minerals based on ART

testing).

c) the Enderlein remedies (especially the haptens) from Pleomorphic-

Sanum

B: Allergy - appropriate or exaggerated immune reactions (both

cellular TH1-reaction and TH2-cytokine activation). In Lyme disease

often (not always) the TH2 (humoral portion of the immune system) is

overly active, TH1 is asleep (the cellular immune system). Nothing

works better than the APN-desensitization procedure (15): while the

patient is exposed to the allergen ( we use a glass-carrier fixated

culture of the offending microbes) the ANS is kept in a state of

equilibrium, using tapping of acupuncture-points, hypnotherapeutic

trauma-recall and intervention techniques and our proprietary

psychokinesiology (muscle-biofeedback psychotherapy).

A very effective and yet simple technique to turn TH1 back on is auto-

urine therapy. The patient's urine concentrates the antigens

(disposed cell walls and cell fragments of offending microbes which

the immune system has successfully eliminated). By passing the

client's urine through a micropore filter and injecting it i.m, the

lymphocytes on patrol in the connective tissue are brought in contact

with the antigen and quickly mount a specific and appropriate immune

response. We use 2 ml of filtered urine once weekly for 12 weeks. All

other similar approaches (autohemotherapy, homeopathic autonosodes,

manipulating the immune system with supplements) are far less

effective.

C: Autoimmunity – the toxins and microbes often act as haptens –

marking the cell, cellwall or tissue in which they are hiding as

foreign and therefore for destruction . This happens especially

against a back drop of pre existing heavy metal toxicity, which has

to be addressed aggressively and prior to treating the microbes

themselves. We use the MELISA test (memory lymphocyte immune-

stimulation assay) to establish which metals the patient is reactive

to. The same lab in Bremen, Germany also offers the most sensitive Bb

test. The KMT microcurrent technology is very effective in

recognition entrainment, helping the immune cells to mount a specific

and targeted attack on the invaders, sparing the body's own tissues.

It breaks through one of the prime mechanisms the offending germs are

using: molecular mimicry (the pathogens present antigens on their

surface that are indistinguishable from a normal body tissue).

The technique also breaks another trick the spirochetes have

developed: the molecular interaction that occurs between a specific

Lyme virulence factor (OspE) and a host protein fH (factor H).

The novice in the field tends to treat component #1 only. We have

only rarely observed lasting improvement when course after course of

antibiotics was given. Because of the defense mechanisms inherent in

the Bb and co-infections, current wisdom suggests that 18 months of

antibiotics would be curative in many cases (25). We have observed

severe, lasting and unacceptable side effects from this approach

(such as tinnitus, kidney failure, intractable immune system

breakdown and others). By using the synergistic effect between

treatment-modalities which simultaneously address the 3 issues

outlined above, lasting improvements are the norm rather than the

exception.

By using the synergy principle and abandoning the arrogant idea of

being able to eradicate all of the microbes in the system " for good " ,

chronic Lyme patients can often live a normal healthy life again.

The Mineral Issue

To feed, fuel and perk up the cells of the immune system (especially

NK cells and macrophages) numerous interventions have been tried,

mostly based on orthomolecular and herbal medicine principles. We

found that amongst those approaches, abundant mineral substitution

based on the red cell mineral analysis is most rewarding. Rarely

medical drugs should be used.

Amazingly, the most depleted minerals in our Lyme patients are often

copper, magnesium, manganese ( in Lyme) and iron (in Babesiosis). Bb

and Bartonella need magnesium to duplicate and deplete the host's

body rapidly. Copper and iron have all but disappeared from most of

our supplements based on faulty interpretation of hair analysis. The

immune system uses those 2 metals in the process of phagocytosis.

They are the main constituent of the enzymes (or " bullets " ) the

immune cells use in the battle against the invaders.

Oxidized used-up iron and copper get displaced into the extracellular

compartment and body fluids and appears in the hair and skin, as the

body's most efficient way of excreting toxins without hurting the

kidneys. This has led to the dangerous and in its consequence

catastrophic assumption, that these metals are the enemy and need to

be restricted. It is true, that oxidized metals pose a danger and

have to be reduced (=substitution of electrons) or eliminated.

However, when copper and iron are needed and substituted

appropriately, major improvements have been observed. Appropriate

antioxidant treatment can reduce these metals.

Homeopathic copper and iron will lead to beneficial redistribution of

these metals and makes them bio-available again.

Lithium-orotate or aspartate in low doses (15 mg/day) has been shown

to protect CNS structures from neurotoxin damage. Patients almost

always benefit clinically from frequent treatment with parenteral

magnesium. It is most meaningfully given in a modified Meyer's

cocktail, where we use a 5:2 ratio of folic acid (not folinic) and

hydroxycobolamine (not methyl- or cyano-). Hydroxycobolamine is given

i.m at the same time as the i.v.injection of the cocktail.

Many Lyme patient's suffer from Pyrroluria, a metabolic illness where

abnormal porphyrins carry out significant amounts of needed zinc and

vitamin B6. Diagnosis is made with the appropriate test at the

Pfeiffer institute in Chicago. Even though it is assumed that this

illness is hereditary I have my doubts, since most Lyme sufferers

have a degree of it. I suspect that the appearance of kryptopyrroles

in the urine is induced by the illness. However, I am careful with

excessive substitution of zinc. Zinc has a synergistic effect with

mercury in the brain and also promotes the growth of the herpes

viruses.

If clients show abnormal high losses of sex steroid hormones in the

urine, the patient may be cobalt deficient. The urine hormone test

and cobalt drops are available at the Tahoma clinic Renton, Wa. For a

while selenium should be given in high doses to suppress viral

replication and render bioavailable mercury non-reactive.

The element most critical in the Lyme patient however is iodine. A 2

inch square of Lugol's iodine is painted on the patients skin and

should remain visible for 24 hours. The sooner it is absorbed the

more deficient the patient. An oral form of Lugol's is available

under the name Iodoral (Optimox, Torrance, Ca).

Filling up the body's mineral reserves has always been the most

essential part of our heavy metal detox program. It is also the most

essential part of our Lyme treatment.

Sequencing

There is an inherent order in which the microbes should be treated.

If the order is correct, gentle methods work. Treatment should always

combine electromagnetic interventions, using specific microbial

inhibition frequencies (KMT technology) with the appropriate herb,

antibiotic or other antimicrobial strategy. It should also always be

combined with a toxin elimination program, good psychotherapy and

general life style hygiene (all the stuff, that alternative Medicine

stands for).

The Lyme ABC

A. We start with deworming our clients. We often use a simple yet

agressive seasalt/Vit C protocol (19) which has an independent effect

aginst the spirochetes also. The high salt conmcentration kills large

parasites by osmotically induced dehydration (osmotic shock). High

salt levels also increase the enzyme elastase which has a strong

antimicrobial/anti-spirochete effect (4)

Protocol: 1.5 grams of seasalt per 20 lbs of body weight in 4 divided

doses per day for 3 weeks. With each dose also give 1-4 gms of Vit C

(dose has to be just below bowel tolerance). Three 3-6-week cycles

with a 2 week break inbetween. The BP should be monitored and not

elevate outside acceptable levels. 5 % of the population are salt

sensitive and react with a significantly increased blood pressure. In

the off weeks we give ½ tsp of sea salt first thing am in a glass of

water.

Sometimes we enhance the program by using the " Arise-and-Shine "

herbal program. Often I will add in a course of Albendazole or

Biltricide.

We developed antiparasitic CDs for entrainment of the immune system.

The frequencies were obtained by German physicists by taping the

sounds of microbes in their respective live activity in an

underground lab which was soundproof and electromagnetically

completely shielded (6).

B. the next step is the treatment of giardia, entamoeba histolytica

and trichomonas, which most often are overlooked. Lab detection of

large parasites in most US labs is hopeless. Amoeba and giardia

trophozoites can only be detected in a fresh stool for about 20

minutes. None of the labs available to us comply with this necessity.

The detection rate is so substandard that only ART testing, a

therapeutic trial or abdominal palpation by an experienced

practitioner are capable of establishing the diagnosis. Protocol:

organic freeze dried garlic ( 14 ) treats all of the above

astoundingly successfully. Sometimes we add Tinidazole 500 mg bid for

10 days always followed by long term garlic therapy (3 caps tid after

meals).

C. Next we attend to the chronic strep infections, which often

coexist with the herpes viruses. No other treatment has been as

successful as Pleo Not (penicillum notatum) from Pleomorphic-Sanum

followed by a 6 month course of Pleo Sancom (antidotes for

aspergillus niger and mucor racemosus).

We always look at the tonsils: if they are scarred with crypts, or

lymph tissue has regrown since the tonsillectomy ( " tonsillar tags " ),

surgical intervention is needed. Otherwise these patients (which are

most of them) never get well. We recommend a procedure developed by

Dr. Sergej Dorochov, MD, PhD called " regenerative cryotherapy " (

20 ). It involves freezing the surfaces of all lymphatic tissue of

the head/neck region which creates a barrage of growth factor and

cytokine responses, that often lead to dramatic improvements in our

Lyme patients. Lymph drainage using the KMT technology has been

superb in speeding the healing of the sinus/head/neck/region.

D. the next step is the treatment of Babesia . There are now at least

17 subtypes of this intracellular Malaria-like organism. Eye, brain

and dental symptoms are most often caused by this mean microbe.

Protocol: Frequency #2 in the KMT 22 TENS unit inhibits the metabolic

activity of Babesia and is used 3 times weekly.

I also use Artemisinin, 2 cap 2times/day. 3 weeks on, 1 week off.

Always with ½ glass of grapefruit juice. 3 cycles. Watch iron levels!

Artemisinin provokes the intestinal wall to secrete an enzyme which

destroys the medication before it can be absorbed. This process

builds up over 3 weeks. After a one week pause the enzyme has

disappeared and takes another 3 weeks to reemerge. Grapefruit juice

prevents formation of this enzyme. Alternatives are the Swiss Malaria

drug Riamet (1 course) which is very well tolerated and Mepron, which

is forbiddingly expensive.

Taurox 6X, a sophisticated designer compound marketed as a

homeopathic remedy, is very effective in treating the associated

fatigue, eye symptoms and erratic emotional behaviour. It has an

independent immune system regulating effect.

E. The next step is to start the client on a systemic antiviral

treatment. I use the ayurvedic herb cocktail - Indian Gooseberry,

Chebulic and Beleric myrobalan ( 14 ) , which has given the most

profound and lasting effect on the viruses of the herpes family,

which flourish in the immune suppressed Lyme patient. The Japanese

mushroom extracts have also been helpful. . I also like the North

American product " Pro Boost " (thymus extract) to help awaken the

cellular immune system.

Olive leaf, virox and other chaparral- derivatives have been

disappointing. The insomnia of Lyme disease is often herpes viral in

nature (EBV, VZ or HSV 1, HSV II). As a diagnostic trial I often use

1000 mg of the medical antiviral drug Valtrex at bedtime. If there is

a dramatic improvement, herbal antiviral treatment has to be

considered for a long time. We have designed an antiviral program for

the KMT instruments (frequency #4) and an anti viral CD, which s

played through a walk man or regular sound system at low volume 3

times/week. This has been extremely effective. Zinc fosters the

growth of HSV I and II, copper and selenium inhibit it.

F. Simultaneously, I address the fungal/yeast component which is most

often present, especially if clients had prior antibiotic treatment.

Fungi and viruses seem to support each other in yet unknown ways. I

use both the antifungal CD and the KMT TENS-frequencies in program #4

which contains all known anti-yeast and anti-mold frequencies ( 6 )

With ART technology we could show that the most successful and well

tolerated antifungal is either the drug amphotericin B (250 mg bid)

or the combination of organic freeze dried garlic and oil of oregano.

Substitution with effective microbes is important. We use " Matrix

Flora " ( 14 ) which contains over 80 lesser known beneficial

microbes. Every patient is also on a more traditional

acidophilus/bifidus/FOS product. Eating a low carb diet is often a

must. We monitor the fasting insulin level. If it is low, we are ok.

If it is high, we restrict the carbs. Do not restrict the carbs if it

is not necessary. We have seen dangerous mistakes in this field.

Metabolic typing is a safeguard, but time consuming to do at home,

especially if you are very ill. I use the " diet therapy software "

(21) for a rapid and profound diet evaluation and recommendation.

Most successful is the ART food sensitivity test for every single

item in the client's diet (6). It may take 15 minutes, is more

sensitive then the ELISA, MELISA and other lab tests - and it does

not incur lab fees (6). The rotation diet by Sally Rockwell prevents

relapses.

G. Mycoplasma responds well to enzymes, when it is treated in

sequence with the other microbes as outlined here. The most effective

strategy is the German product Rechtsregulat (14). This simple drink

has been extremely effective in eradicating mycoplasma and other cell

wall deficient microbes. It also has a heparin like anti-fibrin

effect that surpasses injected heparin by far. It has just like

heparin, a strong biological effect against Babesia as well. Dosage:

1 tbs/2 times per day.

The KMT program #4 is designed for treatment of mycoplasma (6).

H. The spirochetes and their close relatives ( Bartonella,

Rickettsia, Ehrlichiosis, Brucella abortis) are best treated last -

with antimicrobial herbs or antibiotics., 1 tsp bid. We use an

alternating course of teasel root tincture (15 drops 3 times per day)

for 6 weeks and then TOS free cat's claw tincture (10 drops tid). We

also use Echinacea root tincture , 2 dropperfull 3 times/day. Organic

freeze dried garlic sometimes has a profound effect on the

spirochetes. Many other herbs have enormous potential in the

treatment of chronic Lyme disease.

Frequency #1 in the KMT TENS unit inhibits the microbial growth of

spirochetes and Bartonella, simultaneously activates specific immune

responses and aids the uptake of antimicrobial herbs.

Injected bee venom has long been my favorite during this phase of the

treatment (22, 23). The peptide mellitin has strong antibiotic

activity against all spirochetes (24). Bee venom also contains nerve

growth factor, the very substance needed for healing, when everything

else has been attended to.

For the psychiatric presentations of Lyme disease I use large doses

of Niacin. Niacinamide and no-flush Niacin do not work. 3-6 gms in 3-

4 divided doses often show amazing results. It appears that Niacin

has tremendous antibiotic potential against all types of Borrelia

(12). I suspect that our mentor and genius in orthomolecular

psychiatry, Abraham Hoffer, MD discovered a treatment for Bb long

before Lyme-disease was known.

The current antibiotic protocols are discussed and listed elsewhere

(10). My favorites include Zithromax and Minocycline (both work

symbiotically by binding to separate regions of the bacterial 50s

ribosomal nucleic acid and both inhibit the microbes from taking part

in protein transcription). I also use Rifampin.

Often patients develop sarcoidosis, which is rarely recognized (11).

The Lyme infected lymph nodes produce abnormal amounts of 1.25 di-

hydroxy vitamin D. The client often develops marked osteoporosis

(most often in the spine) along with other more typical Lyme

symptoms. The blood test (1.25 di-OH vit D) will usually reveal the

pathology (levels over 45), necessitating therapy with the Trevor

Marshall protocol (18). It uses antibiotics together with the

angiotensin II receptor blocker olmesartan –medoxomil. By adding the

KMT lymphdrainage technology twice/week results are often rapid and

miraculous. We hope to find alternatives to the antibiotic regimen in

the near future.

When the sequence outlined here is observed, few people have severe

Herxheimer reactions, which are the rule in other approaches.

Outlook

Most clients will need some support for several years, before they

have found and adapted to a new life style in which the symptoms are

absent. Lyme disease is marked by cyclic rhythms and unexpected

returns of the symptom from time to time. Once a patient has figured

out what works for him or her best, most of my patients learn how to

manage the illness with very little help - on their own, living

normal healthy lives worth living. In the course of conquering the

illness there has been a lot of personal growth and a lot of

learning.

Many treatment modalities have been surprisingly ineffective: ozone,

hyperbaric oxygen, ICHT (intracellular hyperthermia) and many others.

Some treatments have been unexpectedly effective: dental splints,

colortherapy, Tomatis therapy and neurosensory stimulation, elevating

the body temperature with T3 supplementation, regular bee venom

injections, tonsillectomies and cryotherapy and many others. After 15

years of dealing consciously with this illness, Lyme disease is still

a mystery to me. Currently its impact outweighs other important

issues like heavy metal toxicity, unresolved psychological issues and

nutritional deficiencies.

There has been much speculation, why Lyme disease seems to be

increasingly common. The book " Lab 257 " is an investigative report on

the issues involved. The insects which are the vectors for these

microbes thrive in warmer climates. I have no doubt, that to a large

degree the greenhouse effect is responsible and will be confronting

us with the onslaught of more and more aggressive microbes. The

partial pressure of oxygen on the earth at sea level has decreased

from 30% 150 years ago to 19% today. The oxygen producing algae in

the oceans are dying.

The response of the public health system so far has been denial and

anger towards those who try to uncover the puzzle and help the

afflicted patients. This will certainly change in the near future. I

expect that by the time the institutioenns discover Lyme disease as a

far more important factor in chronic illness than currently

acknowledged, we will be confronted with new, far more dangerous

microbes. Antibiotics have disappointed in the treatment of Lyme

disease as a single modality. Antibiotics alone will not help us to

cope with the coming plagues.

All of us " alternative " practitioners have to start looking beyond

antibiotics for help and for hope. The microbes have always been with

us. They are not the enemy. It is us who have altered the environment

so severely and in a way which facilitates the growth of lower

evolved species like cell wall deficient microbes and viruses - and

ends the life for many more evolved species. Extinction may be

forever.

Lyme disease is a messenger. If we don't change, someday not too far

from now we may be on the endangered species list.

Helpful References

1. Borrelia burgdorferi group: in-vitro antibiotic sensitivity: Orv

Hetil, 2002 May 26; 143(21): 1195-8 (article in Hungarian), JP

Henneberg, U Neubert –department of dermatology, Ludwig-Maximillian

University, Munich, Germany

2. Erythema chronicum migrans (Afzelii) associated with mosquito

bite: acta Derm Venereol (Stockholm) 46, 473-476

3. Personal experience while doing a residency rotation in neurology

at the Albert Ludwig-University, Freiburg, Germany under Prof.Faust

(1976)

4. http://www.BradfordResearchInst.org

5. http://www.Bowen.org

6. http://www.neuraltherapy.com

7. http://www.vcu.edu/ Journal of Immunology Dec 2004

8. The etiologic agent of Lyme disease in deer flies, horse flies and

mosquitoes

J Infect Dis 154 (1986), 355-358, LA Magnarelli, JF , AG

Barbour

9. Klinik der Lyme-Borreliose: Hans Huber Verlag, Bern, CH (2002).

39-40, Norbert Satz

10. http://www.Lymenet.org

11. Borrelia Burgdorferi infection may be the cause of sarcoidosis

Hua B, Li QD: Chin Med J (Engl) 1992 Jul; 105(7): 560-3

12. http://www.vorsoft.com/medical/niacin/index.htm

13. http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com

14. http://www.biopureUS.com also: biopure@...

15. http://www.neuraltherapy.com applied neurobiology (APN)

manual/video

16. http://www.neuraltherapy.com neuraltherapy papers

17.http://www.neuraltherapy.com Klinghardt Matrix Therapy (KMT)

manual/video

18. marshallprotocoll

19. http://www.lymephotos.com

20. http://www.kryopraxis.com

21. nurse@...

22. Bee Venom Therapy for Chronic Pain: D Klinghardt, J. of Neurol

and Orthop. Med and Surg., Vol. 11, Issue 9, Oct 1990, pp. 195-197

23. http://www.mercola.com : The Treatment of Lyme Disease with Bee

Venom: D Klinghardt, M.D., Ph.D., 1999

24. Bee Stings as Lyme Inhibitor: L. L. Lubke and C. F. Garon, J.

Clin. Infect. Diseases, July 1997, 25 Suppl. 1, pp. 48-51

25. Lyme disease, potential plague of the 21st century: R Bradford

and H , Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Jan 2005, 70-

79

[Guest guest]

Marie,

I’m in agreement with

. Career wise I deal with a lot of very complex interacting systems and the

KISS (Keep it simple stupid) principle works very very well. Every now and then

when working a problem, we blow a whistle and say “Let us take it from

the top and not assume anything..” Often when we do that we find the

problem quickly.

For my family in treating CFS, I have done

just that --- back to the very basics – first starting with nutrients

that are used by the immune system. If there is a deficiency somewhere, then

correcting that has the potential of starting a cascade which may resolves many

of the down-stream complexities that researchers start chasing – net result:

a far less complex patient to treat. Chances are that we all have some symptoms

caused by nutrient deficiencies…

The root item that I am back to, is

nutrient deficiencies – with special attention to Vitamin D deficiency. For

nutrients the “not assume anything” means that I will not assume

the taking RDA is sufficient for a sick-person, instead, attempt to find the optimal

levels in the literature and how to get there. For Vitamin D, it appears to be

4000 IU/day for 4-8 months (and afterwards keeping at at least 2000

IU./day). Of course, taking Vitamin D means taking other nutrients that

are needed to work with it…

When I reviewed all of the literature in

2000, there was three sets of publications that actually alleged remission (and

not just symptom or quality of life improvement) for at least 50%:

Nicholson’s

Jadin

Berg/Hemex

Nicholson and Jadin both used long term

antibiotics – with the average time to remission being 50% shorter for

Jadin. Berg/Hemex used Heparin, with some having major improvements in days

(one of the office staff at our MD office was such a responder). Four of us did

a combination of Jadin and Berg with 50% going to full remission and 50% to

major improvement.

In general, take with a salt-lick [a block

of salt] anything that uses **may** or **likely** or **suggests** -- all of these words indicates speculation.

Take with a touch of salt, stuff that have been published on

medline (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi ) which has

BOTH a trial and a control population. To me, the gold standard has been,

and continues to be, medline citations. PWCs experiences will often cause

me to search medline to see if there is evidence to support the experience (and

gotchas).

Ken Lassesen,

From: Schaafsma

[mailto:compucruz@...]

Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005

2:43 PM

To:

infections

Subject:

[infections] Re: Gigi's Doc posted by Gigi on Lymenet

I

partly share your response, Marie.

On the other

hand, because they are looking at a larger number of

variables,

they may very well identify things that DO need to be

addressed,

in some cases, for recovery to 'take.'

This is why

I make a point of keeping a lot of salt around the

house. Since

virtually everything one reads about Lyme disease needs

to be taken

with at LEAST 'a grain of salt', one wants to have a

good supply

handy.

[Guest guest]

Me Three,

At first I was thinking this guy seems to really recognize the

complexities of our illness. Then I started realizing that he's

basically recommending every treatment out there, at least one of

which isn't even well tested yet. That sent up some red flags. I'd

like to know how many of his patients he's actually gotten a whole

lot better.

penny

> Marie,

>

> I'm in agreement with . Career wise I deal with a lot of

very complex

> interacting systems and the KISS (Keep it simple stupid) principle

works

> very very well. Every now and then when working a problem, we blow

a whistle

> and say " Let us take it from the top and not assume anything.. "

Often when

> we do that we find the problem quickly.

>

>

>

> For my family in treating CFS, I have done just that --- back to

the very

> basics - first starting with nutrients that are used by the immune

system.

> If there is a deficiency somewhere, then correcting that has the

potential

> of starting a cascade which may resolves many of the down-stream

> complexities that researchers start chasing - net result: a far

less complex

> patient to treat. Chances are that we all have some symptoms

caused by

> nutrient deficiencies.

>

>

>

> The root item that I am back to, is nutrient deficiencies - with

special

> attention to Vitamin D deficiency. For nutrients the " not assume

anything "

> means that I will not assume the taking RDA is sufficient for a

sick-person,

> instead, attempt to find the optimal levels in the literature and

how to get

> there. For Vitamin D, it appears to be 4000 IU/day for 4-8 months

(and

> afterwards keeping at at least 2000 IU./day). Of course, taking

Vitamin D

> means taking other nutrients that are needed to work with it.

>

>

>

> When I reviewed all of the literature in 2000, there was three

sets of

> publications that actually alleged remission (and not just symptom

or

> quality of life improvement) for at least 50%:

>

> Nicholson's

>

> Jadin

>

> Berg/Hemex

>

>

>

> Nicholson and Jadin both used long term antibiotics - with the

average time

> to remission being 50% shorter for Jadin. Berg/Hemex used Heparin,

with some

> having major improvements in days (one of the office staff at our

MD office

> was such a responder). Four of us did a combination of Jadin and

Berg with

> 50% going to full remission and 50% to major improvement.

>

>

>

> In general, take with a salt-lick [a block of salt] anything that

uses

> **may** or **likely** or **suggests** -- all of these words

indicates

> speculation. Take with a touch of salt, stuff that have been

published on

> medline (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi ) which

has BOTH a

> trial and a control population. To me, the gold standard has

been, and

> continues to be, medline citations. PWCs experiences will often

cause me to

> search medline to see if there is evidence to support the

experience (and

> gotchas).

>

> Ken Lassesen,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Schaafsma [mailto:compucruz@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:43 PM

> infections

> Subject: [infections] Re: Gigi's Doc posted by Gigi

on

> Lymenet

>

>

>

>

> I partly share your response, Marie.

>

> On the other hand, because they are looking at a larger number of

> variables, they may very well identify things that DO need to be

> addressed, in some cases, for recovery to 'take.'

>

> This is why I make a point of keeping a lot of salt around the

> house. Since virtually everything one reads about Lyme disease

needs

> to be taken with at LEAST 'a grain of salt', one wants to have a

> good supply handy.

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL. And for salt therapy as well.

Marie

--- Schaafsma <compucruz@...> wrote:

>

> I partly share your response, Marie.

>

> It is an interesting paper, but it reads like sort

> of an " everything

> but the kitchen sink " approach. It was, I believe,

> presented at the

> recent Orthomolecular Medicine Conference on Lyme in

> San Francisco.

>

> These doctors can sometimes be more useful to us

> than their

> convential medicine colleagues, many of whom run for

> the door at the

> mention at Lyme disease.

>

> But they often appear to get lost in the myriad

> possibilities that

> surround our illness - and to offer expensive

> treatments for ALL of

> them, in complex regimens which no one with bad

> neuro-Lyme could

> possibly follow.

>

> It's reasonable to ask whether this paper is

> reflecting the

> complexity of Lyme disease or compounding it, by

> indiscriminately 'factoring in' things which may not

> be issues at

> all in many cases.

>

> Like a certain ill-tempered engineer I know, these

> alternative

> medicine gurus are often guilty of exaggerating the

> problems

> associated with long-term antibiotic use, and

> minimizing concerns

> about the cost and efficacy of their own much

> 'broader' approach.

>

> On the other hand, because they are looking at a

> larger number of

> variables, they may very well identify things that

> DO need to be

> addressed, in some cases, for recovery to 'take.'

>

> This is why I make a point of keeping a lot of salt

> around the

> house. Since virtually everything one reads about

> Lyme disease needs

> to be taken with at LEAST 'a grain of salt', one

> wants to have a

> good supply handy.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > We are starting to discuss this important

> article at

> > > a CFS/Lyme

> > > discussion forum called

> www.accidentalpatient.com.

> > > We have a

> > > different format than forums that many

> prefer.

> > > Try us out!

> > >

> > > Healing thoughts,

> > >

> > > Wallace

> > >

> > >

> > > posted 23 March 2005 19:43

> > >

> >

>

-------------------------------------------------------------------

> ---

> > > ----------

> > > Lyme disease: A Look Beyond Antibiotics

> > > Dietrich K.Klinghardt, MD, PhD 1/7/05

> > > 222

> > > In the last decade the majority of

> outcome-oriented

> > > physicians

> > > observed a major shift: we realized that it was

> > > neither the lack of

> > > vitamins or growth hormone that made our

> patients

> > > ill. We discovered

> > > that toxicity and chronic infections were most

> often

> > > at the core of

> > > the client's suffering. We watched the

> discussion,

> > > which infection

> > > may be the primary one: mycoplasma, stealth

> viruses,

> > > HHV-6,

> > > trichomonas, Chlamydia pneumoniae,

> leptospirosis,

> > > mutated strep, or

> > > whatelse?

> > >

> > > The new kid on the block is Borrelia Burgdorferi

> > > (Bb) and some of us

> > > have looked at it for a long time as possibly

> the

> > > bug that opens the

> > > door for all the other infections to enter the

> > > system. Lyme disease

> > > has become a buzzword in the alternative medical

> > > field. Since none of

> > > the recommended treatments are specific to

> either

> > > one of the

> > > microbes, we can never assume that we really

> know

> > > what we treated

> > > once a patient has recovered.

> > > Microbiologist Gitte Jensen, PhD had shown, that

> the

> > > older we get,

> > > the more foreign DNA is attached to our own DNA.

> > > Somewhere along the

> > > line pathogenic microbes invade the host's DNA

> and

> > > become a permanent

> > > part of it. Since we use only 2% of our DNA, it

> may

> > > not be a problem.

> > > In fact, it may make us who we finally become.

> It

> > > may also cause a

> > > number of symptoms and chronic illness. Genius

> > > Guenther Enderlein's

> > > discoveries take us off the hook: if one microbe

> can

> > > change into

> > > another given the right environment, why bother

> to

> > > find out, who we

> > > are infected with?

> > > The book " Lab 257 " suggests that Bb is a an

> escaped

> > > man-made US

> > > military bio-warfare organism (just like

> myoplasma

> > > incognitus and HHV

> > > 6).

> > > Other authors suggest that different subtypes of

> > > Borrelia which cause

> > > illness in humans, such as B. afzelii and

> B.garinii

> > > have probably

> > > existed longer than B.burgdorferi and occur

> > > naturally (1, 2) and have

> > > been with us for a long time, maybe centuries or

> > > more.

> > > Neurologist Prof. J.Faust MD, PhD of the

> > > Albert-Ludwig University in

> > > Freiburg, Germany (3) related many neurological

> and

> > > psychiatric

> > > illnesses to spirochete infections as early as

> the

> > > 1960s. He was so

> > > skilled in his clinical knowledge that he could

> –

> > > only based on

> > > clinical neurological symptoms - accurately

> predict

> > > which valley in

> > > the Black Forest the infected patient was from!

> This

> > > clearly was a

> > > time before Bb - showing that non-syphilis

> > > spirochete infections were

> > > around earlier then the famous Bb outbreak in

> > > Connecticut in the mid

> > > seventies. It also makes a strong statement to

> the

> > > fact how easily

> > > these creatures may mutate and adapt to local

> > > conditions. It may

> > > however validate the findings published in " Lab

> > > 257 " : Tuebingen, the

>

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__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yes, I too agree with that this is an everything

but the kitchen sink approach.

I agree with your approach Ken that starting with the

most simple solutions such as nutrition and stress and

then looking at hormones and infections is a good

approach but to automatically throw everything at us

at once seems like overkill. And who knows what is

working. Of course I don't have dx of Lyme. (Not that

I don't have it) and this Doc seems to be focusing on

Lyme.

Marie

--- Ken Lassesen <ken@...> wrote:

> Marie,

>

> I'm in agreement with . Career wise I deal

> with a lot of very complex

> interacting systems and the KISS (Keep it simple

> stupid) principle works

> very very well. Every now and then when working a

> problem, we blow a whistle

> and say " Let us take it from the top and not assume

> anything.. " Often when

> we do that we find the problem quickly.

>

>

>

> For my family in treating CFS, I have done just that

> --- back to the very

> basics - first starting with nutrients that are used

> by the immune system.

> If there is a deficiency somewhere, then correcting

> that has the potential

> of starting a cascade which may resolves many of the

> down-stream

> complexities that researchers start chasing - net

> result: a far less complex

> patient to treat. Chances are that we all have some

> symptoms caused by

> nutrient deficiencies.

>

>

>

> The root item that I am back to, is nutrient

> deficiencies - with special

> attention to Vitamin D deficiency. For nutrients the

> " not assume anything "

> means that I will not assume the taking RDA is

> sufficient for a sick-person,

> instead, attempt to find the optimal levels in the

> literature and how to get

> there. For Vitamin D, it appears to be 4000 IU/day

> for 4-8 months (and

> afterwards keeping at at least 2000 IU./day). Of

> course, taking Vitamin D

> means taking other nutrients that are needed to work

> with it.

>

>

>

> When I reviewed all of the literature in 2000, there

> was three sets of

> publications that actually alleged remission (and

> not just symptom or

> quality of life improvement) for at least 50%:

>

> Nicholson's

>

> Jadin

>

> Berg/Hemex

>

>

>

> Nicholson and Jadin both used long term antibiotics

> - with the average time

> to remission being 50% shorter for Jadin. Berg/Hemex

> used Heparin, with some

> having major improvements in days (one of the office

> staff at our MD office

> was such a responder). Four of us did a combination

> of Jadin and Berg with

> 50% going to full remission and 50% to major

> improvement.

>

>

>

> In general, take with a salt-lick [a block of salt]

> anything that uses

> **may** or **likely** or **suggests** -- all of

> these words indicates

> speculation. Take with a touch of salt, stuff that

> have been published on

> medline

> (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi )

> which has BOTH a

> trial and a control population. To me, the gold

> standard has been, and

> continues to be, medline citations. PWCs

> experiences will often cause me to

> search medline to see if there is evidence to

> support the experience (and

> gotchas).

>

> Ken Lassesen,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Schaafsma [mailto:compucruz@...]

> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:43 PM

> infections

> Subject: [infections] Re: Gigi's Doc

> posted by Gigi on

> Lymenet

>

>

>

>

> I partly share your response, Marie.

>

> On the other hand, because they are looking at a

> larger number of

> variables, they may very well identify things that

> DO need to be

> addressed, in some cases, for recovery to 'take.'

>

> This is why I make a point of keeping a lot of salt

> around the

> house. Since virtually everything one reads about

> Lyme disease needs

> to be taken with at LEAST 'a grain of salt', one

> wants to have a

> good supply handy.

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I agree that it's absurd that anyone do all the treatments listed in

Klinghardt's protocol. However, I had a different basic assumption

when reading about it. It seemed to me that he was listing all the

different potential treatments that he uses and based on testing the

patient the treatment would be individualized. This seems likely,

especially because he is so into ART testing.

Typically it is a good thing for a doc to have a deep bag of tricks

to draw from to treat each patient. Kind of the polar opposite

approach to the MP, where there's basically only one trick with a few

variations in the bag. Has anyone here seen Klinghardt?

Oh btw, I am a long time lurker with cfids/lyme. I posted in the

early days on the original I & I and at LymeNet here and there. Too

sick to post much but I read these lists daily. It's a bit weird...I

feel like I know you folks and then if I feel inclined to post I

realize that you don't know me. The resuslt is that I rarely post.

> Yes, I too agree with that this is an everything

> but the kitchen sink approach.

> I agree with your approach Ken that starting with the

> most simple solutions such as nutrition and stress and

> then looking at hormones and infections is a good

> approach but to automatically throw everything at us

> at once seems like overkill. And who knows what is

> working. Of course I don't have dx of Lyme. (Not that

> I don't have it) and this Doc seems to be focusing on

> Lyme.

>

> Marie

(snip)

[Guest guest]

Not only does he recommend everything and the kitchen sink, but he

mentions that (A) Th1 is " asleep " and ( the MP, which presumes

upregulated Th1. All bases are definitely covered here....

(new to group, been reading all posts, PhD researcher on disability

with a recurrence of LD as yet untreated, happy to find folks who

embrace data)

> > Marie,

> >

> > I'm in agreement with . Career wise I deal with a lot of

> very complex

> > interacting systems and the KISS (Keep it simple stupid)

principle

> works

> > very very well. Every now and then when working a problem, we

blow

> a whistle

> > and say " Let us take it from the top and not assume anything.. "

> Often when

> > we do that we find the problem quickly.

> >

> >

> >

> > For my family in treating CFS, I have done just that --- back to

> the very

> > basics - first starting with nutrients that are used by the

immune

> system.

> > If there is a deficiency somewhere, then correcting that has the

> potential

> > of starting a cascade which may resolves many of the down-stream

> > complexities that researchers start chasing - net result: a far

> less complex

> > patient to treat. Chances are that we all have some symptoms

> caused by

> > nutrient deficiencies.

> >

> >

> >

> > The root item that I am back to, is nutrient deficiencies - with

> special

> > attention to Vitamin D deficiency. For nutrients the " not assume

> anything "

> > means that I will not assume the taking RDA is sufficient for a

> sick-person,

> > instead, attempt to find the optimal levels in the literature

and

> how to get

> > there. For Vitamin D, it appears to be 4000 IU/day for 4-8

months

> (and

> > afterwards keeping at at least 2000 IU./day). Of course, taking

> Vitamin D

> > means taking other nutrients that are needed to work with it.

> >

> >

> >

> > When I reviewed all of the literature in 2000, there was three

> sets of

> > publications that actually alleged remission (and not just

symptom

> or

> > quality of life improvement) for at least 50%:

> >

> > Nicholson's

> >

> > Jadin

> >

> > Berg/Hemex

> >

> >

> >

> > Nicholson and Jadin both used long term antibiotics - with the

> average time

> > to remission being 50% shorter for Jadin. Berg/Hemex used

Heparin,

> with some

> > having major improvements in days (one of the office staff at

our

> MD office

> > was such a responder). Four of us did a combination of Jadin and

> Berg with

> > 50% going to full remission and 50% to major improvement.

> >

> >

> >

> > In general, take with a salt-lick [a block of salt] anything

that

> uses

> > **may** or **likely** or **suggests** -- all of these words

> indicates

> > speculation. Take with a touch of salt, stuff that have been

> published on

> > medline (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi ) which

> has BOTH a

> > trial and a control population. To me, the gold standard has

> been, and

> > continues to be, medline citations. PWCs experiences will often

> cause me to

> > search medline to see if there is evidence to support the

> experience (and

> > gotchas).

> >

> > Ken Lassesen,

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: Schaafsma [mailto:compucruz@y...]

> > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:43 PM

> > infections

> > Subject: [infections] Re: Gigi's Doc posted by

Gigi

> on

> > Lymenet

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I partly share your response, Marie.

> >

> > On the other hand, because they are looking at a larger number of

> > variables, they may very well identify things that DO need to be

> > addressed, in some cases, for recovery to 'take.'

> >

> > This is why I make a point of keeping a lot of salt around the

> > house. Since virtually everything one reads about Lyme disease

> needs

> > to be taken with at LEAST 'a grain of salt', one wants to have a

> > good supply handy.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

---Hi

You dont seem to impressed by this article!

Gigi and her husband report that they are totally well due to his

care and treatment.

I think it's one of the best things written on Lyme.

Ken- You mention vitamin D, do you discuss the other vitamins and

minerals elsewhere? Perhaps you could tell me where.

Klinghardt mentions mineral deficiences in his article in particular.

Healing thoughts,

Wallace

In infections , " duramater27 " <spam-

barb@c...> wrote:

>

> Not only does he recommend everything and the kitchen sink, but he

> mentions that (A) Th1 is " asleep " and ( the MP, which presumes

> upregulated Th1. All bases are definitely covered here....

>

> (new to group, been reading all posts, PhD researcher on

disability

> with a recurrence of LD as yet untreated, happy to find folks who

> embrace data)

>

>

> > > Marie,

> > >

> > > I'm in agreement with . Career wise I deal with a lot

of

> > very complex

> > > interacting systems and the KISS (Keep it simple stupid)

> principle

> > works

> > > very very well. Every now and then when working a problem, we

> blow

> > a whistle

> > > and say " Let us take it from the top and not assume

anything.. "

> > Often when

> > > we do that we find the problem quickly.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For my family in treating CFS, I have done just that --- back

to

> > the very

> > > basics - first starting with nutrients that are used by the

> immune

> > system.

> > > If there is a deficiency somewhere, then correcting that has

the

> > potential

> > > of starting a cascade which may resolves many of the down-

stream

> > > complexities that researchers start chasing - net result: a

far

> > less complex

> > > patient to treat. Chances are that we all have some symptoms

> > caused by

> > > nutrient deficiencies.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The root item that I am back to, is nutrient deficiencies -

with

> > special

> > > attention to Vitamin D deficiency. For nutrients the " not

assume

> > anything "

> > > means that I will not assume the taking RDA is sufficient for

a

> > sick-person,

> > > instead, attempt to find the optimal levels in the literature

> and

> > how to get

> > > there. For Vitamin D, it appears to be 4000 IU/day for 4-8

> months

> > (and

> > > afterwards keeping at at least 2000 IU./day). Of course,

taking

> > Vitamin D

> > > means taking other nutrients that are needed to work with it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When I reviewed all of the literature in 2000, there was three

> > sets of

> > > publications that actually alleged remission (and not just

> symptom

> > or

> > > quality of life improvement) for at least 50%:

> > >

> > > Nicholson's

> > >

> > > Jadin

> > >

> > > Berg/Hemex

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nicholson and Jadin both used long term antibiotics - with the

> > average time

> > > to remission being 50% shorter for Jadin. Berg/Hemex used

> Heparin,

> > with some

> > > having major improvements in days (one of the office staff at

> our

> > MD office

> > > was such a responder). Four of us did a combination of Jadin

and

> > Berg with

> > > 50% going to full remission and 50% to major improvement.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In general, take with a salt-lick [a block of salt] anything

> that

> > uses

> > > **may** or **likely** or **suggests** -- all of these words

> > indicates

> > > speculation. Take with a touch of salt, stuff that have been

> > published on

> > > medline (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi )

which

> > has BOTH a

> > > trial and a control population. To me, the gold standard has

> > been, and

> > > continues to be, medline citations. PWCs experiences will

often

> > cause me to

> > > search medline to see if there is evidence to support the

> > experience (and

> > > gotchas).

> > >

> > > Ken Lassesen,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: Schaafsma [mailto:compucruz@y...]

> > > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:43 PM

> > > infections

> > > Subject: [infections] Re: Gigi's Doc posted by

> Gigi

> > on

> > > Lymenet

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I partly share your response, Marie.

> > >

> > > On the other hand, because they are looking at a larger number

of

> > > variables, they may very well identify things that DO need to

be

> > > addressed, in some cases, for recovery to 'take.'

> > >

> > > This is why I make a point of keeping a lot of salt around the

> > > house. Since virtually everything one reads about Lyme disease

> > needs

> > > to be taken with at LEAST 'a grain of salt', one wants to have

a

> > > good supply handy.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

http://lassesen.com/cfids/deficiencies.htm

Ken Lassesen,

From: Wallace Kingston

[mailto:wpswallace@...]

---Hi

You dont

seem to impressed by this article!

Gigi and her

husband report that they are totally well due to his

care and

treatment.

I think it's

one of the best things written on Lyme.

Ken-

You mention vitamin D, do you discuss the other vitamins and

minerals

elsewhere? Perhaps you could tell me where.

[Guest guest]

" Wallace Kingston " <wpswallace@y...> wrote:

>

> Gigi and her husband report that they are totally well due to his

> care and treatment.

By any chance, do you know if they might have had the same bacteria,

due to one possibly getting it from another?