Re: Giardia treatment in pregnancy

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The latest pregnancy tests can be done really soon so maybe she should stop

thinking and get a test ASAP, even calendula is not recommended in pregnancy

by some authorities as it has an hormonal effect.

raised PSA

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> Hi Ingrid,

> Hope you are well : )

> Soy is good for prostate. Whether it will bring PSA down I don't know,

> although I'm sure somebody's published a paper on that. There is good

> evidence for protection against prostate cancer with soy, preventing the

> spread of microscopic cancer foci and some emerging data on

> anti-inflammatory effects in prostatitis. Try a medline search with soy

> or isoflavone and PSA, you'll get heaps of hits.

> As to pomegranate juice, I haven't a clue!

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> Jay x

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isobel wrote:

> I have a patient who came back from the Seychelles with Giardia - she,

> husband and 2 year old have all tested positive although have differing

> symptoms. The mother thinks there's a chance she's pregnant - bearing in

> mind the contraindications of volatile oils and berberine, what options are

> there left for antimicrobial action in the gut? Calendula? all

> suggestions welcome!

I've used quassia (with myrrh and echinacea) for giardia, but quassia should

not be taken while pregnant. The SW US equivalent of quassia, castela, is

also contraindicated in pregnancy ...

Henriette

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Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland

Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette's herbal blog: http://henriettesherbal.com/blog

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Sorry to be negative, but I had Giardia (i was not pregnant), I took

everything - Commiphora, Hydrastis, Artemisia, Echinacea, Tabebuai, Foeniculum,

citricidal, acidophilus etc....

Nothing touched it, I had to have the antibiotics and so did my husband. But

they were pretty strong, I dont know where she stands taking those while

pregnant. Don't suppose this helps much. K

[Guest guest]

Hi

Did try Quassia for a while, but maybe i did not give it a big enough

chance, by then I was feeling so rough, I went and got anti-biotics, which i

must

say did work very quickly.

Regards K

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KtSlvs@... wrote:

> Sorry to be negative, but I had Giardia (i was not pregnant), I took

> everything - Commiphora, Hydrastis, Artemisia, Echinacea, Tabebuai,

> Foeniculum, citricidal, acidophilus etc....

> Nothing touched it, I had to have the antibiotics and so did my husband.

Did you try the specific anti-amoebic herbs, ie. quassia (Picrasma / Picraena)

and / or Castela?

Because I've had nice results with them.

Henriette

--

Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland

Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette's herbal blog: http://henriettesherbal.com/blog

[Guest guest]

dear KtSlvs,

I have treated several pts with Giardia, who had previous allopathic

treatment, and also prophyllatically to those who are going on foreign trips

to tropical/semi-tropical areas, and have had a 100% success rate , ,,so

far.

To treat I use the following herbs ...A annua, A absinth, Art. vulg , Berb.

vulg, Artemesia dracunulus, Azadiracta indica, Thymus vulgaris , Baptisia ,

Cassia ,m Commiphora mommol, Allium ursinum , Allium sativum , Althea rad ,

Tabebuana , Tanacetum parthenium , Thuja occ,,, all at equal parts tincture,

with 1% Capsicum trc 1:5. Sig 5 mls, six times per day for 6 wks. Give any

other herbs that are required to prevent nausea or indigestion , or other

s/e's.

Prophyllactically , give 5=10 mls, tds, as indicated by the case history.

In my opinion there is far too rigid prescribing , and I am not afraid to

give required therapeutic doses , and I have had great teachers , the

ancients, and the SSHM.

Dosage rate may be limiting in the treatment of many conditions. In general

, I feel , we must move beyond the 5mls , tds.

We have the oportunity , as the drug companies are loosing drugs in recent

times , and there is an oportunity to exploit this weakness, to the benefit

of patients and medical herbalists.

But the important thing is that such a development should only be pursued by

NIMH status practitioners. Again , another example of how the EHPA has

resulted in the cart b4 the horse.

Emmett walsh

Re: Giardia treatment in pregnancy

> KtSlvs@... wrote:

> > Sorry to be negative, but I had Giardia (i was not pregnant), I took

> > everything - Commiphora, Hydrastis, Artemisia, Echinacea, Tabebuai,

> > Foeniculum, citricidal, acidophilus etc....

> > Nothing touched it, I had to have the antibiotics and so did my husband.

>

> Did you try the specific anti-amoebic herbs, ie. quassia (Picrasma /

Picraena)

> and / or Castela?

>

> Because I've had nice results with them.

>

> Henriette

>

> --

> Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland

> Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

> Henriette's herbal blog: http://henriettesherbal.com/blog

>

>

>

>

> List Owner: Graham White, MNIMH

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

re Giardia in pregnancy, you could talk to Ros Blackwell at rosa medica re any

essential oils you can use in this situation, also avicenna re any aromatic

waters. For non pregnant adults i use " herbs of grace " company six week

antiparasite programme, which uses wormwood, quassia and tansy capsules in

combo, plus clove capsules, plus drops of green and black walnut hull. I've used

that a lot in IBS where onset was infectious episode (most commonly

giardia)....effective even years later as giardia can exist in very low grade

form. I checked out the formula with Tony carter once, who felt the wormwood was

at the top end of the dose range but in limits, but obviously don't use for more

than 6 weeks. The pt can feel worse for a week to ten days. Follow on with

probiotics, something like biocares replete.Energetically worming herbs are very

" cooling " (pt can feel very cold within 24 hours), so i usually prescribe my own

mix of angelica archangelic and cinnamon alongside. The herbs of grace product

is cheaper if you buy it and sell it to pt, but is convenient. The other option

is Neem from pukka, but don't know about pregnancy. If mum is not too extremely

affected, it may be worth waiting a couple of weeks and getting preg test to

confirm, which would expand your options if not pregnant. Out of interest, one

GP did look at all the IBS pts in the practice, and found 40% had giardia....its

commonly contracted in uk, not just abroad, and can settle into very low grade

ibs pattern in a lot of people.

best of luck, hilary

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> From: " Markie Walsh "

> To: ukherbal-list

> Cc:

> Subject: Re: Giardia treatment in pregnancy

>

> dear KtSlvs,

> I have treated several pts with Giardia, who had previous allopathic

> treatment, and also prophyllatically to those who are going on foreign trips

> to tropical/semi-tropical areas, and have had a 100% success rate , ,,so

> far.

> To treat I use the following herbs ...A annua, A absinth, Art. vulg , Berb.

> vulg, Artemesia dracunulus, Azadiracta indica, Thymus vulgaris , Baptisia ,

> Cassia ,m Commiphora mommol, Allium ursinum , Allium sativum , Althea rad ,

> Tabebuana , Tanacetum parthenium , Thuja occ,,, all at equal parts tincture,

> with 1% Capsicum trc 1:5. Sig 5 mls, six times per day for 6 wks. Give any

> other herbs that are required to prevent nausea or indigestion , or other

> s/e's.

> Prophyllactically , give 5=10 mls, tds, as indicated by the case history.

> In my opinion there is far too rigid prescribing , and I am not afraid to

> give required therapeutic doses , and I have had great teachers , the

> ancients, and the SSHM.

> Dosage rate may be limiting in the treatment of many conditions. In general

> , I feel , we must move beyond the 5mls , tds.

> We have the oportunity , as the drug companies are loosing drugs in recent

> times , and there is an oportunity to exploit this weakness, to the benefit

> of patients and medical herbalists.

> But the important thing is that such a development should only be pursued by

> NIMH status practitioners. Again , another example of how the EHPA has

> resulted in the cart b4 the horse.

>

> Emmett walsh

>

> Re: Giardia treatment in pregnancy

>

>

> > KtSlvs@... wrote:

> > > Sorry to be negative, but I had Giardia (i was not pregnant), I took

> > > everything - Commiphora, Hydrastis, Artemisia, Echinacea, Tabebuai,

> > > Foeniculum, citricidal, acidophilus etc....

> > > Nothing touched it, I had to have the antibiotics and so did my husband.

> >

> > Did you try the specific anti-amoebic herbs, ie. quassia (Picrasma /

> Picraena)

> > and / or Castela?

> >

> > Because I've had nice results with them.

> >

> > Henriette

> >

> > --

> > Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland

> > Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

> > Henriette's herbal blog: http://henriettesherbal.com/blog

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > List Owner: Graham White, MNIMH

> >