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Hi Everyone,

I am going to try Arava starting next week, when my mail order prescription

comes,

My rheumatologist says it is an anti-metabolite, similar to methotrexate and

Imuran.

He wants to leave Enbrel for later if we need it. He says its action is

different altogether and may or may not work for PA - no one knows -- it has

not been tested.

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> From: MissDenim@...

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 29

>

Pam, you seem so knowledgeable. I printed out your last reply to refer to.

>Are you saying that if my TSH is high, then in fact my thyroid is low, thus,

>the increase in strength of meds?

>Anne

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. The reason it's so hard to remember is

that it's not intuitive. It may help to remember that TSH means thyroid

stimulating hormone. When it goes up it is because your body is trying to

stimulate your thyroid into action.

And don't blame yourself for the weight fluctuations either, with low

thyroid it really screws up your metabolism and keeps your body from self

correcting for the infractions that others get away with. Because low

thyroid lowers our bodies basal temperature, enzyme activity slows down

considerably. Your body just cannot do the work it's supposed to do, and

because of the lower enzyme activity, it doesn't produce the heat that

would get your body temp up AND more importantly burn up excess fat.

Additionally, hypothyroids process fats differently than those with normal

thyroids. Most of us actually eat less than our thin counterparts, and

still gain. Low thyroid shifts the balance of the game to unfair for those

of us who have it. If you are interested in some additional web resources,

feel free to email me directly. Pam

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> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:52:18 -0400

> From: " Trish " <herbs@...>

>Subject: Estratest/hypothyroid

>No I do not have progesteron in the formula. I don't have a uterus so I

>don't need it.

Trish:

The progesterone protects you from the cancer causing effects of the

estrogen, and it makes no difference if you have a uterus or not - you

don't want to take estrogen without progesterone. (It (progesterone) may

be labelled norethindrone also.) According to the research I've read, the

female hormones are a significant factor in whether or not you'll develop

osteo problems, which is why they are prescribed a lot for people who are

at risk. The fosamax or allendronate (sp) might be a good choice for you

also, but in addition to the HRT and depending on how bad your situation

is. Evening primrose oil smooths out a lot of the problems of PMS and

whatnot. I'd try B6 for bloating, it has a natural diuretic effect also.

For the constipation, (which by the way is a symptom of low thyroid!) try

taking ground high lignan flaxmeal. Start with a teaspoon in water or

juice, (let it set for about 5-10 minutes so it isn't scratchy) and build

up to a tablespoon or two per day--whatever you need to keep regular.

Increasing the veggies and fruits will help too.

You might find that seeing a naturopathic doctor would help a lot--you

could be on the wrong dose or type of HRT for you. I wouldn't go jumping

around from prescription to herbals--your body will need quite a while to

adjust, so you need to work with it for several months at least to see what

will happen.

Pam

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<< Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. The reason it's so hard to remember

is

>>

Pam, thanks for another informative e-mail.

Ann

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Pam,

your postings are so informative and you have great way of explaining things

that

make it so easy to understand. Thanks so much.

MissDenim@... wrote:

> From: MissDenim@...

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> In a message dated 8/7/99 10:03:32 PM Central Daylight Time, orca2@...

> writes:

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> << Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. The reason it's so hard to remember

> is

> >>

>

> Pam, thanks for another informative e-mail.

>

> Ann

>

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Re; Conspiracy theory

One more interesting theory (with some fact), In the 60's and early 70's

the army gave us shots that they said where to prevent Spinal

Meningititis due to breakouts at other camps(no documents this ever

happened). What may have really happened was the where experiminting

with vaccines for meningititis and hepatitist. What separates thisfrom

other theories is there is a lot of fact to back it up. Us activist

veterans are trying to get to the bttom of this one way or another. Hep

C rates are highest among our veteran population. But this is the same

group tat got tatoos, did IV drugs,etc. So far this is believed to

affect army vets because I haveyet to talk to a marine o navy vet who

remembers getting this vaccine.

Yet many army vets do remember. Just a theory at this time guys. Theory

meaning unproven.

-

" ...I dream then ask why not "

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Re; Conspiracy theory

One more interesting theory (with some fact), In the 60's and early 70's

the army gave us shots that they said where to prevent Spinal

Meningititis due to breakouts at other camps(no documents this ever

happened). What may have really happened was the where experiminting

with vaccines for meningititis and hepatitist. What separates thisfrom

other theories is there is a lot of fact to back it up. Us activist

veterans are trying to get to the bttom of this one way or another. Hep

C rates are highest among our veteran population. But this is the same

group tat got tatoos, did IV drugs,etc. So far this is believed to

affect army vets because I haveyet to talk to a marine o navy vet who

remembers getting this vaccine.

Yet many army vets do remember. Just a theory at this time guys. Theory

meaning unproven.

-

" ...I dream then ask why not "

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didnt someone out here say hep c was created when a dr. with the

" Rockerfeller Foundation " created a vaccine for yellow fever. from what

i understand , disesed mice brains were used, and that is how hep c was

created. A doc named Max Thieler was the one who created it.

this is just what I heard, there is alot of info on the web about the

doc.

also about lab work, when i was first diagnosed in 1991, i worked at a

hospital, so i had easy acces to medical books and such. So since than,

EVERY TIME i get blood ork done, i tell the lab people and the doctor to

send me a copy, and if they forget, i call them to remind them of my

request. I have a file filled with lab work i had done since 1991, and i

can see when my liver enzymes rose and dropped, how my body handled

Interferon in 1993, and in the future i can look back at this time, as

see how the combo worked for me. By looking at my labs, i see my liver

enzymes stayed down for about four years last time. So i am sure with

the combo, i will get atleast that.

So i tell everyone DEMAND a copy of the labs be sent to you, if they

tell u to come in and get them, do that too. i think they legally have

to give you the info. plus i have had doc come and go in the past, and i

was the only one keeping track of my labs.

now i have a good primary care, so he does what i want him to do, like

he should.

well i hope everyone hangs in there,

Corey

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didnt someone out here say hep c was created when a dr. with the

" Rockerfeller Foundation " created a vaccine for yellow fever. from what

i understand , disesed mice brains were used, and that is how hep c was

created. A doc named Max Thieler was the one who created it.

this is just what I heard, there is alot of info on the web about the

doc.

also about lab work, when i was first diagnosed in 1991, i worked at a

hospital, so i had easy acces to medical books and such. So since than,

EVERY TIME i get blood ork done, i tell the lab people and the doctor to

send me a copy, and if they forget, i call them to remind them of my

request. I have a file filled with lab work i had done since 1991, and i

can see when my liver enzymes rose and dropped, how my body handled

Interferon in 1993, and in the future i can look back at this time, as

see how the combo worked for me. By looking at my labs, i see my liver

enzymes stayed down for about four years last time. So i am sure with

the combo, i will get atleast that.

So i tell everyone DEMAND a copy of the labs be sent to you, if they

tell u to come in and get them, do that too. i think they legally have

to give you the info. plus i have had doc come and go in the past, and i

was the only one keeping track of my labs.

now i have a good primary care, so he does what i want him to do, like

he should.

well i hope everyone hangs in there,

Corey

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Welcome New Friends! (I'm sorry, but my 40's- something brain has not

taken kindly to continuous input lately and I haven't been keeping everyone

straight lately.) I keep saying I'm going to make a list of who has what

age kid(s) who live where but I never have.

I did enjoy the story of Mom and Dad having a champaign toast to their

child's new dx. I love it! Boy, is THAT ever a good attitude to have!

You'll hang well with this crowd!! ; )

New 's Mom- welcome, and great that you were able to get a dx so early.

The pica sounds really tough. Please educate us more about this. I'm

generally familiar with the term but have mostly heard about it in terms of

pregnant women with certain vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Is there

medication or effective treatment when kids have this disorder? ,

does JJ just have this problem with poop or are there other things you have

to watch out for?

Ben (age 9) is a pretty good eater, but he never tells us when he's

hungry or thirsty. Occasionally he might help himself to something if it's

sitting out (when Dad was on a donut-buying spree for a while, for example)

but it's sort of like the toilet schedule: " okay, time to eat " .

Margaret, , and others who have written about the Catholic schools (and

other religious schools issues) situation, I hear you loud and clear. I

would have pursued things with our parish if I'd had other kids but I just

didn't have the energy to take on the diocese. I had attended the NICE

(National Inclusive Catholic Education) conference a few years back in

Dayton. I loved it- met some great people there- lots of tears, hope, and

anger. HAHAHA I just recalled an offhand comment I made to one of my sibs

who was busy planning his two babies' Catholic education. It stopped him

in his tracks when I said that my son should have the same opportunities

that my sibs and I all had (products of many years of Catholic schooling)

and he just couldn't disagree with me. But he mentioned it to another

brother and pretty soon some of them were having a big argument about it.

I was amused. One brother told me he heard I was bitter. No, I said, just

worn out.

My home parish in Erie PA has begun to include some kids but I know of some

families who were also refused. It hurts. It really, really hurts.

I have a little fantasy that if I ever played the lottery and one I'd take

a big chunk of that money and put it in escrow to begin funding special ed

*services* in the diocese. I'm always amazed how funds can be found if

things are prioritized. For some reason, it never has been. But I'll tell

you what- the rhetoric at that NICE conference was loud and clear: we are

having the babies because we are respecting the teachings of the Church.

NOW YOU RESPECT US AND HELP US EDUCATE EVERY ONE OF THEM!!! Whew- nobody

wants to touch that one. I am not going to go on any more about this

issue- just to let you know I've been there and looked at it and said I

can't champion that cause too. (I don't know how to even tell the Knights

of Columbus to change the rhetoric of their " help retarded children "

campaign. AAUUUGGHH!!)

A couple of other things:

Nonni has actually done very well during her short term stay in the

nursing home. She's recovering nicely from the pneumonia and has ended up

doing much better there than I would have expected. I think the place is

pretty good, so far as nursing homes go, and there seems to be quite caring

people there. I think she'll be there for about another week, and then

when she comes home we will start having her go to day care 3x a week.

That should really help things around here. She'll be busier, be able to

get more excercise, and expand her world. I won't feel like I have to be

at her beck and call, and then she can still go back to the nursing home

for respite when we go away for a few days. We all know what to expect of

this place, and it's only 5 minutes away! I feel like what's been a scary

and stressful time has turned into a blessing.

Ben seems to be playing a lot more with his dolls and stuffed

animals, including doing some of the things that Nonni does like put her

kleenex in the sleeve of her sweater. He's been wiping their noses and I

think saying part of the Albanian nursery rhyme that she tells him. So I

guess that's all therapeutic.

We also had some excitement yesterday. Seems that PB picked up the wall

telephone and randomly dialed 911. They called back to verify but DH is

deaf and didn't hear the phone. I was out shopping two blocks away and had

no idea. So the police showed up to check on things. SIGH. I am out of

ideas already because I don't know how to keep PB from touching the

telephone if DH has decided to use the BR for a minute. Of course, PB

hates the telephone for the most part and barely tolerates holding it up to

his ear. But it's a machine with buttons. SIGH. If it wasn't such a

dangerous thing to do- calling the police out on a false alarm- I'd be

proud that he dialed a number. Oh well.

Sorry for running on. Good to meet all you lovely new families. Enjoy!

Beth Mum to Ben, 9

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We are using this with Holly and it seems to make a big difference for her

and keeps her off long rounds of oral antibiotics.

M.

In a message dated 8/16/00 2:51:29 PM, egroups writes:

<< The doctor he saw asked if his

dr had said anything about Bactroban nasal solution.

He said it is being used and has shown great

effectiveness in preventing sinus infections. >>

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Just thought you would like to know Ruan O'Neal has CML

Digest Number 31

Let's keep the list UNCLUTTERED!!!

To do ANY HOUSEKEEPING business such as changing the way you get mail,

please go to mygoups or mail me at

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> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:04:48 -0000

> From: " rastapoodle " <herblady@...>

> I feel you have to be centered and focused to blend, so I'm just in

> the info-gathering and ruminating stage right now, and I just wanted

> to post the truffle idea before I forgot it, since I'm about to plunge

> into a day of paperwork.

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I totally agree with you about the centering and focusing! Just

conceptualizing can be exhausting when I have done 'too much' already.

-- L Wakefield, owner and operator of the beastly truck heretik, that

refuses to stay between the lines when parking --

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Isn't a laminectomy kind of the be all and end all of spine

surgeries? I mean if you have one done what is left to do?

I have many questions to ask the surgeon at my appt next month...

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Well in my case a laminectomy was necessary with my type of stenosis.

If I didn't have the laminectomy I'd be in a wheelchair by now from the

CES. I think you have that confused with fusion because fusion is the

be all and end of of spine surgeries.

safegirl@... wrote:

> Isn't a laminectomy kind of the be all and end all of spine

> surgeries? I mean if you have one done what is left to do?

>

> I have many questions to ask the surgeon at my appt next month...

>

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Hi ,

I live in Las Cruces and will be glad to send you a culture for the price of

shipping, or you can pick it up.

Message: 4

Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:07 -0000

From: " " <mariadelaluzrodriguez67@...>

Subject: Where can i buy one

I live in El Paso Texas and I am trying to find out where I can

purchase a kombucha culture. Thank You

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Hi ,

That is great, I can come pick it up just let me know when and where. You are a

life saver.

Thanks,

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Hi ,

I live in Las Cruces and will be glad to send you a culture for the price of

shipping, or you can pick it up.

Message: 4

Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:07 -0000

From: " " <mariadelaluzrodriguez67@...>

Subject: Where can i buy one

I live in El Paso Texas and I am trying to find out where I can

purchase a kombucha culture. Thank You

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Many thanks for all of you who sent me the links for

the Stratton protocal. I'm doing a lot of thinking

about some of the added data here which was simplified

on Wheldon's regime, especially the concern about

secondary porphyria and the treatment options for

this, as well as the interesting fact that niacinamide

(a form of niacin) is anti-chlamydial to a certain

stage of it's life form, and something I could easily

add to the doxy/azithro/flagyl regime to increase it's

power, or that's my first read. I had already tried

the charcoal to limit neurotoxin reabsorbtion, but was

not doing it in near as large amounts as he recommends

as well.

Thanks,

Jim

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yes I will also try the charcoal in high doses too. I seem to have run

out of the stuff, but I have never done it in the large doses he

recommends.

Are you currently on abx?

> Many thanks for all of you who sent me the links for

> the Stratton protocal. I'm doing a lot of thinking

> about some of the added data here which was simplified

> on Wheldon's regime, especially the concern about

> secondary porphyria and the treatment options for

> this, as well as the interesting fact that niacinamide

> (a form of niacin) is anti-chlamydial to a certain

> stage of it's life form, and something I could easily

> add to the doxy/azithro/flagyl regime to increase it's

> power, or that's my first read. I had already tried

> the charcoal to limit neurotoxin reabsorbtion, but was

> not doing it in near as large amounts as he recommends

> as well.

> Thanks,

> Jim

>

>

>

>

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