Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 I have an acquaintence, that was a member of a cult-like group (and this involved horses hoof trimming- not medicine per se ). These were basically good intentioned people, enamoured with a 'protocol' following one person, and they passionately beleived they were doing the correct thing. I did not understand how this person was drawn in, and this person still to this day can't answer that question. When several of the members maimed their own horses by these practices, they sought to leave the group and expose what they thought was a sham... or at least practices that sould be investigated further by experts (and eventually it was by Tufts University ). But, the members had signed an agreement going into it, that vowed them to secrecy about some of the methods used... so of course what they said later, even when out of the group made them vunerable to contract breech. They talked, there were law suits - There were passionate arguements on the Net - it was controversial.. heated.. And others were threatened to be sued. I saw lives turned upside down because of the emotion, the guilt of the owners over their animals lamness, and the indignance of the remaining " followers " who passionately beieved they were right. I mention this because if anyone has signed anything, it may be a very good idea to be very carefull what is said and how it's worded. I just get the queasy feeling that this situation is not unlike what we saw in the hoof trimming group. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 No, I'm not at all off base on the meaning. Actually, the word cult is from the Latin " cultis " which denotes all that is involved in worship, ritual, emotion, liturgy and attitude. So a cult could be either secular or religious in nature. One of the main reasons a person might join a cult would be healing for emotional hurts. Virtually anyone can get involved in a cult under the right circumstances, particularly during periods of vulnerability such as emotional trauma associated with illness. One of the features of a cult is that they revolve around the teachings of one person. In the case of homeopathy that person would be Hahnemann. Another feature of a cult is that the teachings are not permitted to change . . . they must be kept in their pure and original form. That certainly seems to be the case for homeopathy. While other medical science has made great advances, homeopathy has made none. Sounds more and more like a cult. Best regards, Celeste Irene de Villiers wrote: > The word " cult " in its original sense is a broad and generic term used > to describe a system of distinctive religious belief and worship. > So no, you are way off base. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 a1thighmaster wrote: > No, I'm not at all off base on the meaning. Actually, the word cult is > from the Latin " cultis " which denotes all that is involved in worship, > ritual, emotion, liturgy and attitude. And you think the pigs, sheep, cats, dogs etc in my practice do take part in these activities? :-))) Have a good evening :-) > One of the features of a cult is that they revolve around the > teachings of one person. In the case of homeopathy that person would > be Hahnemann. Not exactly. They revolve around a specific kind of teaching - usually with deprivation of some sort to encourage compliance. They do not revolve around the kind of teachings that are discovered by observation, experimentation and determination of scientific principles as Hahnemann documented. The teachings of a single brilliant scientist have often held value for a long time to many generations of people. Einstein, Gallileo, Hippocrates, etc. Cults don't hold up for hundreds of years, because they do not teach science but someone's belief system, and some smart person will come along and show up the cult for what it is. It is ridiculous to compare the health care system most people in the world use because they find it effective, with a cult. Homeopathy's scientific findings have only been confirmed again and again over the course of 200 years. No cult can claim that:-)) > Another feature of a cult is that the teachings > are not permitted to change . . . they must be kept in their pure and > original form. Scientific principles indeed should also not change. That does not make science a cult does it? > While other medical science has made great advances, homeopathy has > made none. In what dream? That is certainly not true at all. Every homeopath adds to the progress and advances in homeopathy, it is a growing and developing science, with new aspects continuously added. There are some principles behind it that do not need to change, but the way the principles are used grows daily of course. It does so in any good scientific field. This for example is why I am rewriting the advanced veterinary homeopathy course at BIH, it needs another update, and it will need one again and again as the system continues to develop. You would know how continuously homeopathy expands if you were in any way associated with a homeopath and their work. Just because you look the other way as a car goes by, does not mean it is still parked where it was yesterday:-)) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Irene, I definitely was not thinking of the clients, but only of the practitioners of homeopathy. Cordially, Celeste Irene de Villiers wrote: > And you think the pigs, sheep, cats, dogs etc in my practice do take > part in these activities? > > Celeste wrote: > > No, I'm not at all off base on the meaning. Actually, the word cult is > > from the Latin " cultis " which denotes all that is involved in worship, > > ritual, emotion, liturgy and attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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