RE: Schardt, of fluconazole fame, had lyme himself

[Guest guest]

, I am on the Schardt therapy right

now, almost 21 days into it. Prescribed by a LLMD in Kansas City, according to the Schart report.

The biggest effect I am experiencing is an increase in fatigue, but that is

hard to evaluate b/c I’m always fatigued. Reports are coming in that

people are noticing the most benefit around day 30 and up. I’m hopeful.

Patrice

From: Hodologica

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:18

PM

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Subject:

[infections] Schardt, of fluconazole fame, had lyme himself

Some in the community had wondered if Schardt was

one of these, you

know, jerks - deniers of borreliosis etc -

especially the place he

works at is reportedly the welfare/disability

agency.

But, oxygenbabe of lymenet reports that she talked

to Schardt, who

said he himself had lyme and failed abx therapy,

later curing his sx

(aside from heart palps) with fluconazole. So it

sounds like hes the

real thing, not one of these Alan Steere

types.

I may try this Schardt fluconazole tx sometime, I

dont know. Months

ago, for yeast, I did once take 17 days of 100 mg

fluc /d (which is

NOT the Schardt treatment) with substantial

benefit, but all the

benefit happened right after the resolution of a hellacious

36h herx

that started on the 2nd day. At the time I thought

it was a yeast

herx - but more recently I have often used

nystatin for yeast, and

it clears my oral candida faster than fluc, but

without any herx.

[Guest guest]

Hi Do you have a link where I can learn more about

this Schardt therpy, and what it is? Jim

--- Patrice <PKR527@...> wrote:

> , I am on the Schardt therapy right now, almost

> 21 days into it.

> Prescribed by a LLMD in Kansas City, according to

> the Schart report. The

> biggest effect I am experiencing is an increase in

> fatigue, but that is hard

> to evaluate b/c I'm always fatigued. Reports are

> coming in that people are

> noticing the most benefit around day 30 and up. I'm

> hopeful. Patrice

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Hodologica [mailto:usenethod@...]

> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:18 PM

> infections

> Subject: [infections] Schardt, of

> fluconazole fame, had lyme

> himself

>

>

>

>

> Some in the community had wondered if Schardt was

> one of these, you

> know, jerks - deniers of borreliosis etc -

> especially the place he

> works at is reportedly the welfare/disability

> agency.

>

> But, oxygenbabe of lymenet reports that she talked

> to Schardt, who

> said he himself had lyme and failed abx therapy,

> later curing his sx

> (aside from heart palps) with fluconazole. So it

> sounds like hes the

> real thing, not one of these Alan Steere types.

>

> I may try this Schardt fluconazole tx sometime, I

> dont know. Months

> ago, for yeast, I did once take 17 days of 100 mg

> fluc /d (which is

> NOT the Schardt treatment) with substantial benefit,

> but all the

> benefit happened right after the resolution of a

> hellacious 36h herx

> that started on the 2nd day. At the time I thought

> it was a yeast

> herx - but more recently I have often used nystatin

> for yeast, and

> it clears my oral candida faster than fluc, but

> without any herx.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

jim davis <jimd85379@y...> wrote:

> Hi Do you have a link where I can learn more about

> this Schardt therpy, and what it is? Jim

Its a new thing for lyme disease (which is probably the base cause

of the bulk of CFIDS, in my opinion).

Schardt recently published this paper reporting a high rate of

remission using 200 mg /d fluconazole for 25 days (he is now

recommending 50 days):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15337633

Its been discused some at the lymenet.org flash discussion medical

questions section - theres a topic there in which I gave a close

summary of the full paper. My name over there is hodologica. I just

tried to search the medical questions section for " schardt " but it

is running reeel slow as it often does.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/search.cgi?action=intro & default=1

FLuconazole has no in vitro activity against borrelia according to

Schardt, so he theorizes that it affects human metabolites in a way

that is deleterious to the borrelia (Borrelia burgdorferi are

obligate parasites that never replicate outside their hosts, so they

have a small genome, having lost the capacity to carry out many

basic metabolic functions that are common to almost all free-living

organisms. They may thus be quite sensitive to changes in the host

biochemistry.)

Fluconazole is incompatible with a great many different drugs, so to

use it check with a doctor about that and about maybe having some

liver monitoring.

I am not sure how well its working for people. I know its been used

since a couple months ago in Europe but I havent heard much fanfare

over on eurolyme. says he knows of many people in

the US for whom it worked very well but I'm not sure any of them are

asymptomatic. He also says Schardt treated many more people with the

same success rate as his paper reflects.