Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I agree....our daughter has severe bipolar disorder with personality disorders and tells a LOT of stories. We have been checked out by CPS and they know us well! She tells things to people in other states and we cannot even say she is lying, because from her point of view it is her reality. It is difficult, but you need to just be careful. Fortunately she is an adult now...24....but we have a lot of history with her and she still tells people things. The last one was that she was adopted. And that was a nice one! LOL Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 A PS from me.....I would tell someone in authority and let them know who she is and what room she is in and let them handle it....they can find out more then you can and determine if she is really who she says. As we all know, there are people out there who just like to see what they can stir up. And there are people who really need help. Just be really careful. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I am very wary of giving out a phone number...I think I would call my local people and let them go online to find out. Just my feeling! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Della you have such a wonderful heart I do not know what you can do... I would just go back to that room and hang out about the same time and see if she shows up again and see what to do from there ... be her friend until she is confident enough to tell on him. becareful because sometimes people tell lies to get attention too. hugs Lindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 They say it is to make themselves feel better...but I think that is a dead end...how can you feel good making other people feel bad?!?!?! So it is a sickness that just feeds itself! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Please be careful, Della. You don't know who you are talking to. She may be who and what she says she is, and she may not............... There are all kinds in this world and many devious people who have found easy prey on the internet. Elaine > i was talking to a young girl in a game room the other night. she told > me that her dad abuses her. i asked her if she told her mother, and she > said she wants to, but her dad said he would just deny everything. she > wont tell me even the state she lives in. does anybody know if there is > a way to figure that out on my own? i want to help this girl, but i > dont know how without knowing where she lives. she is only 14 i > think.she said she is afraid to go to the police because her dad will > stop her. any help i can get would be nice. all i want to be able to do > is be able to give the correct authorities some information to help > her. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Della... It's very hard dealing with someone that tells you they are being abused. I would say to try to gain their confidence. I would stay away from talking about their problem. Let them know you are there for them...but within reason. Some demand all your time and it can really drain you. I deal with alot of people on-line...being in ministry. Some come to you with such sob stories...you just want to run and put your arms around them and keep them safe. I have met alot of game players...some are cutters, some threaten suicide, some claim abuse...some say they are in refugee camps in Ghana. They all want attention...some want money. I try to use discernment when dealing with them. I pray over them and ask God to use this situation to bless this person. The ministry has been cheated once, We gave money to a minister in Ghana who said he had a children's ministry and was saving starving children. We later heard he had been collecting money for the children and was now lounging on the beach in the Bahamas. I believe in my heart that God will still use that situation for His honor and glory. Elaine and Mona's advice was good. Just use caution. Hugs, Maggie i was talking to a young girl in a game room the other night. she told me that her dad abuses her. i asked her if she told her mother, and she said she wants to, but her dad said he would just deny everything. she wont tell me even the state she lives in. does anybody know if there is a way to figure that out on my own? i want to help this girl, but i dont know how without knowing where she lives. she is only 14 i think.she said she is afraid to go to the police because her dad will stop her. any help i can get would be nice. all i want to be able to do is be able to give the correct authorities some information to help her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Sounds li9ke your sister has a bit of a problem too. Isn't there some kind of drugs that your neice should be on? Where is it written that someone won't feel love if you choose not to believe their lies. There must be better treatment available than what they are using right now. Maggie my niece has bi-polar also, she is 8 years old. she has told some stories before that has caused the family to get into arguments, bad ones. but my sister chooses not to see the problem. she has even said that i walked up to her, picked her up by her hair, and slammed her into the wall, just because i wanted to, i wasnt even there when i was supposed to have done this. but, my sister says it is just part of the disability, so she has to believe her, or she wont feel loved. so my sister and i got into a hell of an argument over her daughters lying. but even though it never happened, and i wasnt even there at the time, my sister shoose to believe her daughter. what did her daughter say and do after my sister and i got into it? she smiled, and said, i won, my mommy believes me, and not you, now get the hell out of MY house you stupid bitch. i asked my sister what she was going to do about that. her answer? its part of her condition. oh my god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 that is one of the things that bi polar people do...they told us that it can be a way of avoiding their own emotions as they do not feel in control of themselves. So they attempt to control the ones around them by causing them to feel the strong emotions (most often anger) and then sitting back and watching the result. They told us when our daughter tried that to look right at her and say why are YOU so angry? and turn it back on her. She shifted around to doing it to other people and we would pass on the advice, as usually it was friends. We got her past that and now she tells stories to the whole world! If you never live with a person like that you will never understand and the biggest mistake you can make is to not hold them responsible for their actions. They can never be fully responsible but as much as possible you have to put it back on them. It is a problem, not just for the person with the illness, but for their family, their friends, even strangers. We can excuse some of her things between ourselves but we try never to do it for her. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 i know, i thought of that. but i dont know who to call, and i dont even know what state she is in. also i thought about the fact that she could be somebody just looking for attention. i just dont know. either way, she needs help. if she is being abused, then she needs to get out of that situtation. if she is just making up stories, then she needs help, so she does not get people in trouble. i am still waiting to hear back from her.im thinking about giving her my phone number, so that maby she will call me, then with caller id, i can figure out where shes at, and alert the proper people there. jjsmth@... wrote: A PS from me.....I would tell someone in authority and let them know who she is and what room she is in and let them handle it....they can find out more then you can and determine if she is really who she says. As we all know, there are people out there who just like to see what they can stir up. And there are people who really need help. Just be really careful. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 she finally put a profile on her pogo account. so i now know she is from virginia. where in virginia? i dont know. but im looking online for the police or something over there, so i can contgact them. maby they can figure out where she is. jjsmth@... wrote: I am very wary of giving out a phone number...I think I would call my local people and let them go online to find out. Just my feeling! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 My thought is that she may not even be a young girl. Could be a grown man. Some weirdo, or a young girl looking for attention. When you say you want to give " her " your phone number, I worry, a lot. Give NOTHING, except possibly encouragement to tell the authorities and it's unlikely you can go wrong. Is it possible to find out her IP? It's part of her e-mail address, after the " @ " . Give her e-mail address to the local police or contact whomever runs the game room, for instance, if it's AOL, tell AOL her screen name and they can find out more about her from that and take care of it. If you get too involved, it can come back to bite you. Once Rosie O'Donnell had contact with someone on e-mail who said she was pregnant and her parents were going to put her out on the street or something like that and Rosie was going to let the woman stay at her NY apartment during the summer while she was in FL. She didn't want any of her friends to know so they wouldn't talk her out of it. Turns out the woman was older, not a teenager, wasn't pregnant and had mental problems. Rosie could have been in danger if she had actually met the woman. There are so many other stories, some worst. Elaine > > i know, i thought of that. but i dont know who to call, and i dont even know what state she is in. also i thought about the fact that she could be somebody just looking for attention. i just dont know. either way, she needs help. if she is being abused, then she needs to get out of that situtation. if she is just making up stories, then she needs help, so she does not get people in trouble. i am still waiting to hear back from her.im thinking about giving her my phone number, so that maby she will call me, then with caller id, i can figure out where shes at, and alert the proper people there. > jjsmth@... wrote: A PS from me.....I would tell someone in authority and let them know who she Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Della, Hold off on giving out your phone number. Some one can put your phone number in a reverse directory and pull up your full name and address. Be careful, please!!! Call your local athorities and give them what information you have about the girl. They can get information about her from just her screen name. Let them handle it. Mona --- della moore wrote: ..im > thinking about giving her my phone number, so that > maby she will call me, then with caller id, i can > figure out where shes at, and alert the proper > people there. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Her profile may say she is a girl in Virginia, but she could be a middle-aged guy in Timbuktu! Please, please, please be careful! Mona --- della moore wrote: > she finally put a profile on her pogo account. so i > now know she is from virginia. where in virginia? i > dont know. but im looking online for the police or > something over there, so i can contgact them. maby > they can figure out where she is. > > jjsmth@... wrote: I am very wary of > giving out a phone number...I think I would call my > local > people and let them go online to find out. Just my > feeling! > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 mona, thats exactly what im doing, im going to alert the authorties in virginia, give them what information i have, and let them go from there Mona wrote: Della, Hold off on giving out your phone number. Some one can put your phone number in a reverse directory and pull up your full name and address. Be careful, please!!! Call your local athorities and give them what information you have about the girl. They can get information about her from just her screen name. Let them handle it. Mona --- della moore wrote: ..im > thinking about giving her my phone number, so that > maby she will call me, then with caller id, i can > figure out where shes at, and alert the proper > people there. > --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 There is a lot of ugly in this world in which we live. My friend works in a daycare where the teachers routinely verbally abuse and torment some of the children. She isn't normally in the classroom, but when she is, she takes a couple of the " bad " kids so that the classroom teacher doesn't get mad at them. There isn't much else she can do because she can't afford to lose her job right now. I hate to think what happens in some nursing homes and mental hospitals! As to why people abuse others, there are probably many reasons. Some of them are under-paid, under-trained, and over-worked employees. Some pick on weaker people to feel powerful. Others are just purely evil people who get enjoyment from it. It is sad. Mona --- della moore wrote: > yep, im going to report, then hope for the best. > this is the 2nd time in a week i have came across > abuse. i had to go see a client in a nursing home > the other day, 93 years old. i wittnessed lots of > verbal, and some physical abuse. i reported it to my > boss right away. abuse is so sad. why the hell do > people do it? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 i agree with you. this group is the only place to find nice, kind, understanding people. this group is one of a kind. jjsmth@... wrote: I think the majority of us on here are that way! That si why we get along so well! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 why do people feel the need to lie to get attention and money, and what ever else. i like people when they honest. about everything. and yes, im taking caution. i decided not to share my number with her. MAGGIMAY88@... wrote: Della... It's very hard dealing with someone that tells you they are being abused. I would say to try to gain their confidence. I would stay away from talking about their problem. Let them know you are there for them...but within reason. Some demand all your time and it can really drain you. I deal with alot of people on-line...being in ministry. Some come to you with such sob stories...you just want to run and put your arms around them and keep them safe. I have met alot of game players...some are cutters, some threaten suicide, some claim abuse...some say they are in refugee camps in Ghana. They all want attention...some want money. I try to use discernment when dealing with them. I pray over them and ask God to use this situation to bless this person. The ministry has been cheated once, We gave money to a minister in Ghana who said he had a children's ministry and was saving starving children. We later heard he had been collecting money for the children and was now lounging on the beach in the Bahamas. I believe in my heart that God will still use that situation for His honor and glory. Elaine and Mona's advice was good. Just use caution. Hugs, Maggie i was talking to a young girl in a game room the other night. she told me that her dad abuses her. i asked her if she told her mother, and she said she wants to, but her dad said he would just deny everything. she wont tell me even the state she lives in. does anybody know if there is a way to figure that out on my own? i want to help this girl, but i dont know how without knowing where she lives. she is only 14 i think.she said she is afraid to go to the police because her dad will stop her. any help i can get would be nice. all i want to be able to do is be able to give the correct authorities some information to help her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I had (HAD) a supervisor like that. He'd reached his 'level of incompetence (the Principle) in government service and was way in over his head. So he'd stir up stuff to make people mad. Finally cost him his job, but several good men left before he did because he's provoked thenm to anger. Scripture: " Make no friends with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go. " ' Pylgrym jjsmth@... wrote: that is one of the things that bi polar people do...they told us that it can be a way of avoiding their own emotions as they do not feel in control of themselves. So they attempt to control the ones around them by causing them to feel the strong emotions (most often anger) and then sitting back and watching the result. They told us when our daughter tried that to look right at her and say why are YOU so angry? and turn it back on her. She shifted around to doing it to other people and we would pass on the advice, as usually it was friends. We got her past that and now she tells stories to the whole world! If you never live with a person like that you will never understand and the biggest mistake you can make is to not hold them responsible for their actions. They can never be fully responsible but as much as possible you have to put it back on them. It is a problem, not just for the person with the illness, but for their family, their friends, even strangers. We can excuse some of her things between ourselves but we try never to do it for her. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 some people get addicted to receiving help too. I knew a girl who was neglected & spoiled (with possessions) by her parents at the same time. She finally sought help and got so much attention from it that she loved it. She got really good at not saying what was going on, but insinuating that things were going on, hinting, and preying on peoples sympathies. No matter how much help she was given, she never used it to help herself and that's when I cut myself loose from her and prayed to God to help her children through it. I cant believe her ex--husband let her live with him and homeschool the children. She was either a compulsive liar or a pathological liar, i cant remember the difference. I tried and tried to help her kids and be there for them, but I couldnt deal with it anymore. I think you're doing the right thing Della, and that you are a really nice person like everyone else says! laurie > > > Della... > > It's very hard dealing with someone that tells you they are being abused. I > would say to try to gain their confidence. I would stay away from talking > about their problem. Let them know you are there for them...but within reason. > Some demand all your time and it can really drain you. I deal with alot of > people on-line...being in ministry. Some come to you with such sob stories...you > just want to run and put your arms around them and keep them safe. I have > met alot of game players...some are cutters, some threaten suicide, some claim > abuse...some say they are in refugee camps in Ghana. They all want > attention...some want money. I try to use discernment when dealing with them. I pray > over them and ask God to use this situation to bless this person. The ministry > has been cheated once, We gave money to a minister in Ghana who said he had a > children's ministry and was saving starving children. We later heard he had > been collecting money for the children and was now lounging on the beach in > the Bahamas. I believe in my heart that God will still use that situation for > His honor and glory. > > Elaine and Mona's advice was good. Just use caution. > > Hugs, > Maggie > > > > i was talking to a young girl in a game room the other night. she told > me that her dad abuses her. i asked her if she told her mother, and she > said she wants to, but her dad said he would just deny everything. she > wont tell me even the state she lives in. does anybody know if there is > a way to figure that out on my own? i want to help this girl, but i > dont know how without knowing where she lives. she is only 14 i > think.she said she is afraid to go to the police because her dad will > stop her. any help i can get would be nice. all i want to be able to do > is be able to give the correct authorities some information to help > her. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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