RE: xanthan gum and PEG 150 distearate

[Guest guest]

Angie,

None at all. PEG-15- Distearate has been used safely for many years in

surfactant systems.

Young

KY Labs

Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products

www.kylabs.com

xanthan gum and PEG 150 distearate

In a message dated 6/13/01 3:51:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

david@... writes:

> Can you not get Keltrol RD? The RD stands for readily dispersible and

> hydrates much faster than normal grades (although can still clump if

> added too quick). Steam from heated water clumps the xanthan before

> it even contacts with the bulk water.

>

>

Hi All, I personally can't stand working with xanthan gum--too slimy for me.

I prefer PEG 150 distearate in a body wash or shampoo-easy to use and good

feel. Any reason why I shouldn't be using it?

Thanks,

Angie

[Guest guest]

>Hi All, I personally can't stand working with xanthan gum--too slimy for me.

>I prefer PEG 150 distearate in a body wash or shampoo-easy to use and good

>feel. Any reason why I shouldn't be using it?

If you like PEG 150 Distearate, you should also evaluate:

Crothix from Croda

INCI = PEG-150 Pentaerythrityl Tetrastearate

Glucamate DOE-120 from Amerchol

INCI = PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate

Antil 171 from Goldschmidt Chemical

INCI = PEG-18 Glyceryl Oleate/Cocoate

They all behave in a similar manner but have slightly different flow

characteristics. According to the data, Crothix and Glucamate DOE-120

act as anti-irritants and the DOE-120 has been shown to reduce

eye-sting.

BTW, if you go too high, the PEG-150 Distearate will begin reducing the

foam height of your shampoo.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/13/01 7:47:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

maurice@... writes:

> If you like PEG 150 Distearate, you should also evaluate:

>

> Crothix from Croda

> INCI = PEG-150 Pentaerythrityl Tetrastearate

>

> Glucamate DOE-120 from Amerchol

> INCI = PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate

>

> Antil 171 from Goldschmidt Chemical

> INCI = PEG-18 Glyceryl Oleate/Cocoate

>

> They all behave in a similar manner but have slightly different flow

> characteristics. According to the data, Crothix and Glucamate DOE-120

> act as anti-irritants and the DOE-120 has been shown to reduce

> eye-sting.

>

> BTW, if you go too high, the PEG-150 Distearate will begin reducing the

> foam height of your shampoo.

>

>

Thanks to Maurice and !

Maurice, these are excellent suggestions! Do you personally prefer one over

the other for use in shampoo/shower gel? I quite honestly want something

that will be perceived by the public as being more " natural " . I have tried

the crothix and like it---I like croda products anyway. Price-wise it can't

beat the PEG 150 distearate. I was thinking about the glucamate, but did not

realized that it had " thickening " qualities. From the " natural " aspect it

seems like a winner. I plan to carry something that will be easy for folks

to use to make their own products. Additional suggestions are welcome.

Thanks again,

Angie