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Wow, didn't expect to see several posts regarding the Quercetin.

I am still giving it to my son. Although he still has the eye blinking

problem off and on, am beginning to feel that it is dry/winter eyes, but I

like the Quercetin.

I am not worried about the product I am using, It is from Viable Herbal

Solutions, and says ingredients are 100% apple pectin. It is certified

kosher, 100% pure. It even has the date it was made, " made fresh 12/30/2002.

They make it up when you place your order.

Also wanted to mention about the recent questions regarding Primal Defense.

I have two sons using it, and I love it! They are both doing very well on

it, have eliminated yeast in both boys by using culturelle, primal defense,

and kirkman's multiflora spectrum (I think it is called). The three products

together have been awesome. Neither boy has had any problems, side effects,

etc.

And someone had asked if my son was lutein-free, well, then answer is no.

Does not seem to have a lutein problem.

He is doing fabulously, really. As long as I am vigilant with everything, he

does not appear autistic at all.

He has tested age appropriate in all language areas, attends preschool, etc.

Is even beginning to spell a bit!

Thanks for everyone's concern.

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on 7/2/03 12:01 PM, randallwade at RANDALLWADE@... wrote:

> Wow, didn't expect to see several posts regarding the Quercetin.

> I am still giving it to my son. Although he still has the eye blinking

> problem off and on, am beginning to feel that it is dry/winter eyes, but I

> like the Quercetin.

> I am not worried about the product I am using, It is from Viable Herbal

> Solutions, and says ingredients are 100% apple pectin. It is certified

> kosher, 100% pure. It even has the date it was made, " made fresh 12/30/2002.

> They make it up when you place your order.

> Also wanted to mention about the recent questions regarding Primal Defense.

> I have two sons using it, and I love it! They are both doing very well on

> it, have eliminated yeast in both boys by using culturelle, primal defense,

> and kirkman's multiflora spectrum (I think it is called). The three products

> together have been awesome. Neither boy has had any problems, side effects,

> etc.

> And someone had asked if my son was lutein-free, well, then answer is no.

> Does not seem to have a lutein problem.

> He is doing fabulously, really. As long as I am vigilant with everything, he

> does not appear autistic at all.

> He has tested age appropriate in all language areas, attends preschool, etc.

> Is even beginning to spell a bit!

> Thanks for everyone's concern.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mickie, thank you very much for this information. I'm not sure what

to make of it quite yet, but am very glad you brought it to our

attention.

penny

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>

>

> Just an FYI from the Keep Hope Alive site regarding the use of

> Quercetin and curcumin in HIV and cancer treatment.

>

> http://www.chat24.oli.us/hope/messages/6613.html

>

> I don't know if this applies to us or not, but thought it

important

> to pass it on just the same.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Mickie

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> > Just an FYI from the Keep Hope Alive site regarding the use of

> > Quercetin and curcumin in HIV and cancer treatment.

Hi - HIV and cancer are conditions with very depressed immune systems,

i.e. TH2 responses are dominant, and TH1 (pro-inflammatory) responses

are depressed. Quercetin supposedly reduces inflammation by reducing

TH1 responses, as the above study showed. So it might be great for to

treat inflammation, but not so great for treating depressed immune

systems. Assuming, of course, you believe that lab tests can totally

duplicate what effects a substance can have in the body. Lab tests

often only give clues. Tons of drugs that looked good in lab tests,

failed miserably in real life, because lab tests can't totally

simulate what happens in the body.

For example, quercetin supposedly has other good effects, such as

antioxidant properties, which can help lower TH2 responses. The

positives may outweigh any negatives.

Btw, ARBs like Benicar can also reduce the immune system responses.

But it's anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant effects appear to outweigh

such problems, because there haven't been any studies (yet) which have

shown any immune problems from taking ARBs (then again, these studies

were all for people who had conditions that had overt vascular or

inflammatory problems).

Plus, there is still controversy over how much quercetin really ends

up in the body in it's pure form, rather than as metabolites.

Metabolites may have totally different effects than the original

substance itself. I.e., the following study concluded that most

quercetin is converted into other forms, by the body:

" The metabolic fate of dietary polyphenols in humans. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\

ct & list_uids=12106818

Their conclusion was that " The voluminous literature reporting

powerful in vitro anticancer and anti-inflammatory effects of the free

polyphenols is irrelevant, given that they are absorbed as conjugates. "

So that's why I take any study on quercetin with a grain of salt.

I started looking into this issue, when I read of studies that

actually show that quercetin could be carcinogenic!

Personally, my own opinion about quercetin, is that you take it, only

if you actually see any benefits from it.

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Hello

2008/6/6 Max Tendler <maxtendler8@...>:

> My 16 yo son's Vitamin C comes with Quercetin. I researched quercetin

> and it says, " Quercetin is considered a phytoestrogen (i.e., a plant

> substance with similar functions as that of estrogen). "

> My question is, is it sage to give a teenage boy something that has a

> similar function as estrogen?

Im not sure, ive heard that apples contain quercetin that improves

bowel inflammation.

> Please advise.

> Thanks.

> -Max.

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Don't know.

It's in dried orange peels, so you get it in your lipton tea.

Seems to be all the rage as an anti-cancer agent, along with curcumin.

Chinese medicine it's good for loosening up a cough.

Dave.

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Posted by: " Max Tendler " maxtendler8@... tendlermax

Date: Fri Jun 6, 2008 9:37 am ((PDT))

My 16 yo son's Vitamin C comes with Quercetin. I researched quercetin

and it says, " Quercetin is considered a phytoestrogen (i.e., a plant

substance with similar functions as that of estrogen). "

My question is, is it sage to give a teenage boy something that has a

similar function as estrogen?

Please advise.

Thanks.

-Max.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercetin

Dave.

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Posted by: " Max Tendler " maxtendler8@... tendlermax

Date: Fri Jun 6, 2008 9:37 am ((PDT))

My 16 yo son's Vitamin C comes with Quercetin. I researched quercetin

and it says, " Quercetin is considered a phytoestrogen (i.e., a plant

substance with similar functions as that of estrogen). "

My question is, is it sage to give a teenage boy something that has a

similar function as estrogen?

Please advise.

Thanks.

-Max.

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