Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 , Found this one, but not sure if this is what you are looking for. Hope it helps. Donna in NC [infectionAndInflammation] Bb: primed for drug resistance? In post # 13639 I raised the issue of drug resistance, and pointed out that low dose Flagyl/Tini induces mutations within bacterial genomes and that this can facilitate the acquisition of resistance not only to Flagyl/Tini but to other antibiotics as well. This paper: http://tinyurl.com/6x4p2 says that it takes more than 128 mcg/ml to kill motile spirochetes. This suggests that motile spirochetes may express low levels of nitroreductases. Since this concentration cannot be achieved clinically, exposing motile spirochetes to " high " doses (i.e., a concentration that is effective against cysts) of Flagyl/Tini is, in effect, to expose them to low doses. And low doses are mutagenic and can facilitate the acquisition of drug resistance, as I've discussed before. Even if your Flagyl/Tini doses are high enough to destroy cysts but not free spirochetes, the free spirochetes may well be accumulating mutations. Most mutations harm fitness. But a lucky fraction of the borrelia population may gain antibiotic resistance. One way to combat this problem is by using a variety of antibiotics. While one bacterium may become genotypically resistant to, say, rifampin and another bacterium may become resistant to, say, clarithromycin, a rifampin/clarithromycin combo will kill both bacteria. Some microbes have a way around this problem: recombination and reassortment. The influenza virus, for example, has a segmented genome. When two different strains co-infect the same cell the progeny virions inherit some of their segments from one parent and the other segments from the other parent. This is reassortment. Retroviruses co-package duplicate strands of RNA. If two different strains of HIV-1 co-infect the same cell, some of the progeny virions will have one genomic copy from one strain and the other copy from the other strain. Recombination between the two co-packaged copies creates a chimeric proviral genome. Here is a good paper on this if you're particularly interested in it: http://tinyurl.com/5oozu If one parent HIV-1 encodes resistance to one drug and the other parent encodes resistance to another drug, recombination can join the two resistance " loci " on to the same strand of RNA in their progeny. In this case, the progeny would be resistant to both drugs. The combo would fail. It appears that the agent of Lyme disease is designed to take advantage of reassortment and recombination to a degree that few bacteria can match. Many bacteria have their genomes encoded on a single, large strand of DNA. Bb's genome, however, is highly segmented (broken up into smaller pieces of DNA): http://tinyurl.com/4z2lo It has more than 20 segments (apparently this is unmatched by any other known bacterium). The main advantage of segmented genomes is, to my knowledge, the ability to exchange the segments with different strains. The fact that Bb encodes its genome on so many segments suggests that it deliberately swaps those segments when two different strains co-infect the same host. Here is recent evidence of that: http://tinyurl.com/5hmcd Some quotes from the full-text: " The discovery of genome-wide genetic exchange among local B. burgdorferi clones suggests that new adaptive features, such as its human virulence, could emerge quickly.. Recombination is a powerful facilitator of species adaptation. Rare beneficial alleles are more likely to be fixed in a population by avoiding " Muller's Ratchet " , the mutational meltdown and rapid fitness loss of an asexual species. More important, beneficial combinations of alleles among loci can arise quickly through random genome assortment. " This suggests to me that Bb might achieve multi-drug resistance in a single patient. Borrelia cells within the population may reassort/recombine their respective drug resistances into single cells/genomes thereby creating cells that are resistant to multiple drugs. And the mutagenicity of Flagy/Tini may facilitate the creation of the resistance alleles in the first place. Do any of you Lyme veterans know of testimony consistent with this? Are there patients who have used antibiotics successfully, relapsed, and then found that some or all of those antibiotics weren't effective the next go around? Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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