Re: Coming Soon infectionandinflammation.net

[Guest guest]

Ken here, slow down a bit. We want the right solution.

I do very major size web sites for a living and there are a bunch of

technical issues we want to get right -- I have 250 megs of messages

that should be added to the site etc and that is a messy technical

issue. The selection of software, databases etc have major impacts..

-- I think most people want those messages to be available,

I prefer a solution for all CFS message boards since we know that

all are potentially threatened..

There are a bunch of infrastructure issues that should be addressed

first -- like exactly how the domain is registered, issues of

control etc. those take time to work out for the best solution.

Your energy is appreciated, we have this board for a short while to

bridge us until we get a proper solution...

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> Check it out! I just registered our domain name and established

> hosting for the site for the next year. I'll work on getting the

bb

> software installed and we should be good to go soon.

>

> We will be able to have public and private forums.

>

> http://infectionandinflammation.net/

[Guest guest]

I appreciate all of your efforts as well. I have alot of IT

experience and understand the technical issues. I've done alot of

research to find the best hosting companies, registration service,

software, etc. I've done this for others. A very important issue,

as Penny mentioned, is that the site be independent of other sites.

The site and hosting as I established them will be completely

indepedent and as it was intended will maintain a broader focus than

CFIDS.

I've been an active member of the I & I group from the beginning

through all the turmoil and spilt blood (and now money, prepaying for

one year of hosting service) in support of this group. Penny

indicated that she is not interested in maintaining another I & I group

and it looks like I'm volunteering to do so at this point. I will

definitely need people to help though.

This does not prevent you from establishing another site for CFIDS or

combining the that you moderate on one site or even

connecting them with your website. You have several existing

groups and a related website to moderate/maintain. I am wary of

having too many groups moderated/maintained by the same person.

Diversity is healthy in more ways than one.

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> > Check it out! I just registered our domain name and established

> > hosting for the site for the next year. I'll work on getting the

> bb

> > software installed and we should be good to go soon.

> >

> > We will be able to have public and private forums.

> >

> > http://infectionandinflammation.net/

[Guest guest]

Tho I initially thought it sucked, I totally dig this ultra

primative " list " format. Here the subject line can be changed

appropriately as threads shift focus, yet you can still trace the

reply structures of threads despite the change of subject line.

Thats really nice, cause threads almost always change focus at some

point. On many discussion fora, when threads are collapsed into a

list, identified a single subject line, you have no idea whats in

the thread.

But whatever.

I also dig the non-censorship thing, I'm only aware of one

moderation ever having being made at I/I, aside from blatant spam.

I think the old stuff, whatever can be retrieved, should probably

just be put into a few gigantic text files.

[Guest guest]

I agree about putting the archives in a few gigantic text files. That

would be easiest at this point.

I agree that changing the subject is a nice feature, but it is not

used all that often from what I've observed. There are so many other

features with the bb software that are major improvements over the

more primitive software that I can live without this one feature.

You can always start a new topic, however.

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> Tho I initially thought it sucked, I totally dig this ultra

> primative " list " format. Here the subject line can be changed

> appropriately as threads shift focus, yet you can still trace the

> reply structures of threads despite the change of subject line.

> Thats really nice, cause threads almost always change focus at some

> point. On many discussion fora, when threads are collapsed into a

> list, identified a single subject line, you have no idea whats in

> the thread.

>

> But whatever.

>

> I also dig the non-censorship thing, I'm only aware of one

> moderation ever having being made at I/I, aside from blatant spam.

>

> I think the old stuff, whatever can be retrieved, should probably

> just be put into a few gigantic text files.

[Guest guest]

I agree. Originally, I hated , but now I prefer it, and I think

it tends to have the most successful, largest groups, in general. To

me, this format is actually a lot faster. Conversations always

meander anyway, and with , you don't have to click on multiple

departments of topics to read what's inside. I always end up losing

interest in BBs, whereas the list format is fast, I can skip over

topics that don't look interesting if I'm short on time, and I can

just open messages directly. No navigating through a maze of

categories which ends up slowing me down and losing my interest.

Most BBs end up having most of their conversation occuring under one

thread anyway. If we have to go with a BB format, perhaps we could

keep conversation confined to just a couple of categories. The BBs

that divide everything into neat compartments get really anal and

annoying from my perspective. The group that shall not be named

spends more time telling you where and how not to post, than

actually imparting any interesting or useful information.

penny

p.s. I kind of like Ken's idea of having some kind of umbrella

organization for PWC (people with chronic illness) that keeps us all

from disappearing into obscurity. I think this is a good idea, as

long as each group maintains it's own independent identity under

that umbrella. That's the problem with a lot of these BBs. Nobody

knows how to find you, and membership dwindles. I'm sure that's what

our detractors want. A big umbrella could include lyme groups, CFS,

MS, autoimmune, groups that want to focus on a particular therapy,

etc. Kind of like now, but it would be strictly a health

related umbrella. Is this possible?

> >

> > Tho I initially thought it sucked, I totally dig this ultra

> > primative " list " format. Here the subject line can be changed

> > appropriately as threads shift focus, yet you can still trace

the

> > reply structures of threads despite the change of subject line.

> > Thats really nice, cause threads almost always change focus at

some

> > point. On many discussion fora, when threads are collapsed into

a

> > list, identified a single subject line, you have no idea whats

in

> > the thread.

> >

> > But whatever.

> >

> > I also dig the non-censorship thing, I'm only aware of one

> > moderation ever having being made at I/I, aside from blatant

spam.

> >

> > I think the old stuff, whatever can be retrieved, should

probably

> > just be put into a few gigantic text files.

[Guest guest]

The group can be whatever we want it to be. We can keep the number

of forums to a reasonable number also, so it is easier to navigate.

It is virtually impossible to find anything using 's search

feature. With the bb system you get an excellent search feature.

This is a great resource for members.

> > >

> > > Tho I initially thought it sucked, I totally dig this ultra

> > > primative " list " format. Here the subject line can be changed

> > > appropriately as threads shift focus, yet you can still trace

> the

> > > reply structures of threads despite the change of subject line.

> > > Thats really nice, cause threads almost always change focus at

> some

> > > point. On many discussion fora, when threads are collapsed into

> a

> > > list, identified a single subject line, you have no idea whats

> in

> > > the thread.

> > >

> > > But whatever.

> > >

> > > I also dig the non-censorship thing, I'm only aware of one

> > > moderation ever having being made at I/I, aside from blatant

> spam.

> > >

> > > I think the old stuff, whatever can be retrieved, should

> probably

> > > just be put into a few gigantic text files.

[Guest guest]

Members can subscribe via email to one or more forums and new

messages are sent to your email account using the forum/bb systems

just like you can with .

Many folks don't know about , but are looking for help.

With a public domain name it will be easier to find the group.

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> > > > > Tho I initially thought it sucked, I totally dig this ultra

> > > > > primative " list " format. Here the subject line can be

changed

> > > > > appropriately as threads shift focus, yet you can still

trace

> > > the

> > > > > reply structures of threads despite the change of subject

line.

> > > > > Thats really nice, cause threads almost always change

focus at

> > > some

> > > > > point. On many discussion fora, when threads are collapsed

into

> > > a

> > > > > list, identified a single subject line, you have no idea

whats

> > > in

> > > > > the thread.

> > > > > 

> > > > > But whatever.

> > > > > 

> > > > > I also dig the non-censorship thing, I'm only aware of one

> > > > > moderation ever having being made at I/I, aside from

blatant

> > > spam.

> > > > > 

> > > > > I think the old stuff, whatever can be retrieved, should

> > > probably

> > > > > just be put into a few gigantic text files.

> >

> >

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> >

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