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, I can't remember if your husband is going to be a transplant candidate

or not. I think I remember you posting that you were working on a listing for

him. The reason I ask is that hepatopulmonary due to excess NO in the blood

stream is underreported according to my hepatologist. Most people have some

degree of shunting from this just by having the diagnosis of cirrhosis, he has

said to me in the past. It is always referred to in the literature as a " rare

complication of cirrhosis " . Patients with severe hypoxia from HPS can get first

in line for a liver transplant. But the downside here is that it can worsen, and

at some point becomes unresponsive to 100 percent oxygen therapy, and the

patient drops off the list because the severe cases don't make it. Penny and I

had our oxygen tests and shunt studies around the same time. Mine was discovered

because of an abnbormal chest xray which showed abnormal opaque markings

indicating possible interstitial lung fibrosis. But the dialated cappiliarys can

appear on a chest xray and better yet a CT scan. I believe that the standard

procedure at most transplant centers is to investigate any and all Cirrhosis

patients who complain of dysapnea. I called for an appointment and when I

finally went in , all of my referal paperwork said ---Rule out: hepatopulmonary

syndrome--- Hope this helps you. Good luck, and God be with you both. Love Bobby

aka rwe

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delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ....but a real concern. Does anyone have

to deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder

if we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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 No offense taken at all.Actually, his hepatologist has not said he can't use

viagra. We have not honestly asked him.  Ed just assumes it since he wants his

heart rate to stay down.You have really clarified it for us and I thank you for

that........what you're saying makes so much more since.....and possibly makes

Ed a very happy man!!!   : )

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: delicate question

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:40 AM

this is amazing that we should both post the same question at the same time....i

was vague but i am asking what you ask...and should one take a supplement

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From: Jill <jillkstewart@ yahoo.com>

To: Cirrhosis forum <livercirrhosissupp o rtyahoogroups (DOT) com>

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:22:55 AM

Subject: delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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You all have been such a huge help on this issue. Thank you all so much for

discussing this.

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: delicate question

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:40 AM

this is amazing that we should both post the same question at the same time....i

was vague but i am asking what you ask...and should one take a supplement

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jill <jillkstewart@ yahoo.com>

To: Cirrhosis forum <livercirrhosissupp o rtyahoogroups (DOT) com>

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:22:55 AM

Subject: delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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For Terry, the dialation of the vessels was the concern.  He has had several

esophageal varices banded and they develop very quickly.  His doctor is

concerned that a quickly developing varice will be dialated by the viagra and

rupture either in his esophagus or abdomen.  He has very little success with the

viagra anyway, so it was just not worth the danger to us.  For every couple it

is different, though.

Hugs............

Diane

delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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Ed too has had many varices bandings ......more than he cares to

remember.....sometimes he has them done for 4-5 months in a row.Sometimmes we

get lucky and go 6 months vetween bandings. When his doc bands....it's always 3

to 7 varices done at a time. I feel so bad for him. It's the pits!! He also has

a large gastropathy spot in his upper stomach his doc watches.Sometimes it

pretty good, other times it's severe.  This disease sucks.

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: delicate question

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:40 AM

this is amazing that we should both post the same question at the same time....i

was vague but i am asking what you ask...and should one take a supplement

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jill <jillkstewart@ yahoo.com>

To: Cirrhosis forum <livercirrhosissupp o rtyahoogroups (DOT) com>

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:22:55 AM

Subject: delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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<this disease sucks>

I couldn't have said it better or agree with you more!

Hugs..........

Diane

delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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Diane, in his case I can see the problem. The varicies dialate too. Wow. Im

sorry. Diane, you are such a wise lady. *Hug* Hang in there. Love, Bobby --rwe

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:07:11 AM

Subject: Re: delicate question

For Terry, the dialation of the vessels was the concern. He has had several

esophageal varices banded and they develop very quickly. His doctor is

concerned that a quickly developing varice will be dialated by the viagra and

rupture either in his esophagus or abdomen. He has very little success with the

viagra anyway, so it was just not worth the danger to us. For every couple it

is different, though.

Hugs........ ....

Diane

delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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Thanks Bobby, (((((hugs))))) are comin right back at ya!

Diane

delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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every thing eventually becomes related one system leads to another they are all

connected

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:36:30 PM

Subject: Re: delicate question

Thanks Bobby, (((((hugs))) )) are comin right back at ya!

Diane

delicate question

I have a very delicate question.... . ...but a real concern. Does anyone have to

deal with ED because of cirrhosis? This has affected us alot. I just wonder if

we're alone in this.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments..

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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