Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 JoAnn, You would want the ES is you want to be able to pour the salts into the bath water without having it cake in the high humidity of a bathroom. The minor amount of the anticaking agent will not be perceptible to your consumers. Ask Morton to send you a sample of each to try. They can also direct you to a local distributor in the Islands if one exists. If not then you will need to purchase a 50 pound bag stateside and have it shipped to you. The shipping will be much more than the salt itself. Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com dendritic salt Hi, I have read the files regarding Star Flake (dendritic) salt from Morton for use in bath salts. We sent an inquiry to Morton regarding their pricing, etc. as we are unable to purchase this anywhere in our state. Morton has two types of dendritic or Star Flake salt: 1. Star Flake Dendritic Salt; and 2. Star Flake Dendritic ES Salt. It seems the only difference is that the Star Flake Dend. ES Salt is treated with " 0.5% sodium silicoaluminate, a moisture-absorbing, free-flowing anti-caking additive.......The additive is acid-insoluble and very fine in particle size (10 um). " Can anyone tell me which one of these salts would be the more appropriate salt to use in bath salts? It seems that the cake-free life for the regular dendritic Star Flake is 90 days and for the ES Star Flake it's 1 year if properly stored. What I'm not sure of is the sodium silicoaluminate. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. JoAnn Takushi/Steve Cromwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Hi JoAnn/Steve, Is dendritic salt the salt that looks something like hail pellets? thanks, Kathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:25:00 -1000, JoAnn Takushi/Steve Cromwell wrote: >Hi Kathleen, > >Dendritic ES Salt (Morton's name for this substance) is a very fine grain, almost powdery. According to the experts and Morton, the crystals are " porous, star-shaped modified cubes.........high specific surface area........rapid dissolution rate and flowability.......high liquid adsorptive capacity and caking resistance.......low apparent density. " The ES salt is treated with sodium silicoaluminate, which is a moisture-absorbing, free-flowing anti-caking additive. It seems the dendritic salt, when added to other salts, will help to retain scent and prevent caking and clumping, especially in high humidity. Other companies offer this item with different names. > ><<Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:44:11 -0400 > >Subject: Re: dendritic salt > >Hi JoAnn/Steve, >Is dendritic salt the salt that looks something like hail pellets? > >thanks, >Kathleen>> > You can always check the archives for " dendritic " . You'll find additional info there. Maurice ------------------------ Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 > Dendritic ES Salt (Morton's name for this substance) is a very fine grain, almost powdery. JoAnn, I have heard that some people add the fragrance to the Dendritic salt only. If it is smaller than the other salts, wouldn't it have a tendency to work it's way to the bottom in a jar of salts leaving the rest of the salt without fragrance? Anyone else have any experience with this? Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. pat@... www.houseofscents.com/ www.yourhealthandbody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Hi Pat, That is exactly what we did recently in a test batch. We added the fragrance to the dendritic salt and mixed really well, then added it to the other salts we are using. I put some into those plastic tubes and the remainder into a jar with a tight seal. They have been sitting for over a week, and it looks pretty good. The finer salt did not sink to the bottom, even when I shake it. This may be because (I'm guessing here) the grains are so fine, almost powder- like, and they sort of adhere themselves to the larger grains. The scent is also very good and strong. We are still in the testing stage so I'll wait a few weeks to see what happens. We welcome any suggestions. Someone asked for another name for dendritic salt. Cargill calls this substance Alberger Shur-Flo Fine Flake Salt. It is almost the same as the Morton Star Flake Dendritic ES Salt, except they add glycerin along with that anti-caking substance. Thanks for all your help. JoAnn > > Dendritic ES Salt (Morton's name for this substance) is a very fine grain, > almost powdery. > > JoAnn, I have heard that some people add the fragrance to the Dendritic salt > only. If it is smaller than the other salts, wouldn't it have a tendency to > work it's way to the bottom in a jar of salts leaving the rest of the salt > without fragrance? Anyone else have any experience with this? > > Pat. > > Peace, Joy, Serenity > House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. > pat@h... > www.houseofscents.com/ > www.yourhealthandbody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 > That is exactly what we did recently in a test batch. We added the > fragrance to the dendritic salt and mixed really well, then added it > to the other salts we are using. Thanks JoAnn, if you run into any problems would you let me know? Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. pat@... www.houseofscents.com/ www.yourhealthandbody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Cargill's Alberger brand salt may be an alternative to dendritic salt. Most salt manufactured in this country comes from underground deposits, although some comes from solar evaporation of saline sea water. The underground deposits can be mined conventionally or removed by dissolving the salt with circulating water and collecting the brine. The brine goes through a vacuum pan process that comprises several clarification and purification steps before crystallization. This process results in a concentric or cubic form of variable size, but which is typically under 20 mesh (0.03 inches) down to approximately 200 mesh. The term " pan run " means unscreened vacuum-granulated salt. A screening process separates the various size grades. Two other forms of salt - Alberger and dendritic salt - are commercially manufactured through different processes. The Alberger or grainer method produces a unique, irregular crystal with stair-step sides, also described as a hollow quadrilateral pyramid. The dendritic process uses sodium ferrocyanide, known as yellow prussiate of soda (YPS), to alter the crystallization process. Low levels of YPS added to the brine prevent normal crystallization, and the result is a porous, star-shaped crystal. http://www.foodproductdesign.com/archive/1994/1094AP.html The following information was gleaned from various webpages found on the Cargill Salt website: http://www.cargillsalt.com/cargillsalt/default.asp The Alberger brand salt is produced by using a modified Grainer (open pan) evaporating process. Unlike a traditional cube-shaped salt grain, an Alberger brand salt crystal has a unique pyramid shape. This increased surface area and low-bulk density combine to offer a measurable advantage in terms of blendability, adherence and flavor enhancement in foods. The only high-purity, food-grade, natural flake salt. Its unique shape, increased surface area and low-bulk density combine to offer a measurable advantage in terms of blendability, adherence, solubility and absorption. Alberger brand salt is available in a wide range of grades and screen sizes, a variety of anticaking and conditioning agents, or additive free. Maurice ------------------------ Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Pat et all, Used the Dentritic in my bath salts. Have some here in Flex tubes that are a year old. Still smell like the day they were packaged. Doubt that anything has settled to the bottom. The salt base contains 5 different salts - seems they are all equally dispersed. HTH. Bobbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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