Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:34 +0100 (BST), cranmere@... wrote: >Dear chemists, this one has me beat. Someone just mailed me a query about >a 'natural' shampoo that he found in a store, as follows:- > > " I came across a " natural " shampoo, brand name, MSM (all their products >contain MSM), and they list their ingredients as: Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, > " Decyl Polyglucose (a natural surfactant) " , etc. No SLS, etc. listed. >Have you ever heard of Decyl Polyglucose? Sounds like some sort of sugar. > What kind of sugar makes lather? (It lathers quite nicely.) " > >So what's decyl polyglucose? Or is it really hiding something like SLES >under that 'coconut' label? A commercial source for Decyl Glucoside is Plantaren 2000 N from Cognis (formerly Henkel). This is quoted from a technical data sheet for this material. " Plantaren 2000 N is a fatty polyglycoside prepared by reacting cornstarch glucose with a C6 - C16 natural fatty alcohol. Plantaren 2000 N is a nonionic surfactant and can function as either a primary or secondary surfactant in a variety of personal care cleansers. It provides excellent foaming characteristics, ease of formulation, and mildness to skin and eyes. Due to its mildness and foaming properties, Plantaren 2000 N is recommended as a primary or co-surfactant in shampoos, shower gels, and bubble baths, hand and face cleansers, and other applications where mildness without sacrificing performance is required. It contains no solvents or hydrotypes and is easily formulated in personal care products. Being nonionic, Plantaren 2000 N is compatible with cationic surfactants and polymers, and is recommended for conditioning shampoo formulations. " Maurice ------------------------ Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Pat, This is a surfactant made by Henkel in Germany and sold under the Plantaren trade name. While it is a warm fuzzy feeling to say that this is all natural in fact it is synthesized using both plant and petro sources. Then again MSM is not natural either. With all the olive oil and coconut oil I would not expect this shampoo to either lather or clean. Sounds like BS to me. My BS meter pegged the needle on this one. ;-) Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com Decyl polyglucose Dear chemists, this one has me beat. Someone just mailed me a query about a 'natural' shampoo that he found in a store, as follows:- " I came across a " natural " shampoo, brand name, MSM (all their products contain MSM), and they list their ingredients as: Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, " Decyl Polyglucose (a natural surfactant) " , etc. No SLS, etc. listed. Have you ever heard of Decyl Polyglucose? Sounds like some sort of sugar. What kind of sugar makes lather? (It lathers quite nicely.) " So what's decyl polyglucose? Or is it really hiding something like SLES under that 'coconut' label? PatS in Somerset, England Post message: Cosmeticinfo Subscribe: Cosmeticinfo-subscribe Unsubscribe: Cosmeticinfo-unsubscribe List owner: Cosmeticinfo-owner URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 A patent pending formulation studied in the Feb edition of International Journal of Cosmetic Science (Mainkar & Jolly) quotes the following natural shampoo/cleaner. Saponins 10% APG (Plantacare 2000UP) 10% Xanthan Gum 1% Sodium Chloride 7.5% Citric Acid to pH 5.5 Essential Oils q.s Distilled Water q.s Also added can be aloe vera extract/vitamins for conditioning. The formula is self preserving. The general comment is that the aesthetic attributes such as lather and clarity are not comparable with market shampoos. Regards Dave E > Pat, > > This is a surfactant made by Henkel in Germany and sold under the Plantaren > trade name. While it is a warm fuzzy feeling to say that this is all natural > in fact it is synthesized using both plant and petro sources. Then again MSM > is not natural either. With all the olive oil and coconut oil I would not > expect this shampoo to either lather or clean. Sounds like BS to me. My BS > meter pegged the needle on this one. ;-) > > Young > KY Labs > Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products > www.kylabs.com > > Decyl polyglucose > > Dear chemists, this one has me beat. Someone just mailed me a query about > a 'natural' shampoo that he found in a store, as follows:- > > " I came across a " natural " shampoo, brand name, MSM (all their products > contain MSM), and they list their ingredients as: Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, > " Decyl Polyglucose (a natural surfactant) " , etc. No SLS, etc. listed. > Have you ever heard of Decyl Polyglucose? Sounds like some sort of sugar. > What kind of sugar makes lather? (It lathers quite nicely.) " > > So what's decyl polyglucose? Or is it really hiding something like SLES > under that 'coconut' label? > > PatS in Somerset, England > > > Post message: Cosmeticinfo@y... > Subscribe: Cosmeticinfo-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: Cosmeticinfo-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: Cosmeticinfo-owner@y... > URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:34 +0100 (BST), cranmere@... wrote: > > >Dear chemists, this one has me beat. Someone just mailed me a query about > >a 'natural' shampoo that he found in a store, as follows:- > > > > " I came across a " natural " shampoo, brand name, MSM (all their products > >contain MSM), and they list their ingredients as: Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, > > " Decyl Polyglucose (a natural surfactant) " , etc. No SLS, etc. listed. > >Have you ever heard of Decyl Polyglucose? Sounds like some sort of sugar. > > What kind of sugar makes lather? (It lathers quite nicely.) " > > > >So what's decyl polyglucose? Or is it really hiding something like SLES > >under that 'coconut' label? > > , The alkylpolyglucosides are very interesting and exciting to me. Maurice did a great job with the specifics on decyl polyglucose. They are truly mild and do a fine job cleaning, but the polyglucosides typically do not produce high volume foam. For this reason it is often used in conjunction with other surfactants, such as SLS and SLES that are high foaming, but rather harsh. A new product on the market combines the wonderfully mild polyglucose with equally mild, but high foaming acyl lactylates--which gives us the best of both worlds! I love the shampoo that I have formulated with this blend. I am very excited about these blends and believe they have tremendous potential. If you would like more information on these blends, please let me know. Angie The Herbarie at Stoney Hill Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Re: Decyl polyglucose > > > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:34 +0100 (BST), cranmere@... wrote: > > > > >Dear chemists, this one has me beat. Someone just mailed me a query about > > >a 'natural' shampoo that he found in a store, as follows:- > > > > > > " I came across a " natural " shampoo, brand name, MSM (all their products > > >contain MSM), and they list their ingredients as: Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, > > > " Decyl Polyglucose (a natural surfactant) " , etc. No SLS, etc. listed. > > >Have you ever heard of Decyl Polyglucose? Sounds like some sort of sugar. > > > What kind of sugar makes lather? (It lathers quite nicely.) " > > > > > >So what's decyl polyglucose? Or is it really hiding something like SLES > > >under that 'coconut' label? > > > > , > The alkylpolyglucosides are very interesting and exciting to me. Maurice did > a great job with the specifics on decyl polyglucose. They are truly mild and > do a fine job cleaning, but the polyglucosides typically do not produce high > volume foam. For this reason it is often used in conjunction with other > surfactants, such as SLS and SLES that are high foaming, but rather harsh. A > new product on the market combines the wonderfully mild polyglucose with > equally mild, but high foaming acyl lactylates--which gives us the best of > both worlds! I love the shampoo that I have formulated with this blend. I > am very excited about these blends and believe they have tremendous > potential. If you would like more information on these blends, please let me > know. > > Angie > The Herbarie > at Stoney Hill Farm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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