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Hi all,

I rarely have symptoms from eating certain foods, so I'm writing to get some

input here. I get headaches when I eat certain foods. Not always, but often

enough to make me wonder...

The probable culprets:

Raw garlic (usually eaten in cucumber/yogurt salad)

Kim chee (especially when made with broccoli. No, I don't eat kinds that

contain msg)

Some raw cheeses (totally unpredictable as to which kinds)

The headache I get is " goosepimply " and centers on the very roof of my brain.

It's quite distinct from a low-blood sugar headache or a stress related headache

in that I get waves of " goosepimples " all over my body. Sometimes, I just get

the goosepimple response with no headache.

What worries me is that I like these foods and know that they are generally

healthy, but wonder about how good they are for ME.

Any thoughts? Do I really have to stop eating them?

TIA,

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>The probable culprets:

>

>Raw garlic (usually eaten in cucumber/yogurt salad)

>Kim chee (especially when made with broccoli. No, I don't eat kinds that

contain msg)

>Some raw cheeses (totally unpredictable as to which kinds)

>

>The headache I get is " goosepimply " and centers on the very roof of my brain.

It's quite distinct from a low-blood sugar headache or a stress related headache

in that I get waves of " goosepimples " all over my body. Sometimes, I just get

the goosepimple response with no headache.

Kimchi and cheese sometimes contain glutamates ... natural ones even, and tons

of

different chemicals. Some foods like that make my lower lip " tingle " , which

is interesting. The nerve to the lip was partly severed during an operation,

and now some foods make it tingle. I don't know that it is a problem though ...

glutamates do affect the brain, but they are also natural components

in a lot of foods. But there are tons of other chemicals too. People

with " multiple chemical sensitivity " that I've talked to really react

to kimchi and other fermented vegies ... but there are literally hundreds

of chemicals involve, who's to say which is the culprit?

-- Heidi

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>Raw garlic (usually eaten in cucumber/yogurt salad)

>Kim chee (especially when made with broccoli. No, I don't eat kinds that

>contain msg)

>Some raw cheeses (totally unpredictable as to which kinds)

The common factor might be that they've all been implicated in

migraines. Aged cheeses are common triggers, and many people find that

only certain kinds of aged cheeses are problems for them, without any

apparent rhyme or reason. Cruciferous vegetables, including broccoli,

seems to trigger migraines in some people, even though others recommend

them as anti-migraine foods, and since fermented foods can trigger

migraines (I think the commonly accepted reason is the presence of

tyramine, FWIW) that would explain kimchee, not to mention why kimchee is

worse when you make it with broccoli. And garlic has also been linked.

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>Cruciferous vegetables, including broccoli,

>seems to trigger migraines in some people, even though others recommend

>them as anti-migraine foods, and since fermented foods can trigger

>migraines (I think the commonly accepted reason is the presence of

>tyramine, FWIW) that would explain kimchee, not to mention why kimchee is

>worse when you make it with broccoli. And garlic has also been linked.

>

>

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, that is an interesting point. If it is

migraine linked, then it might be a lack of calcium/magnesium

too ... I increased both of those and my migraines have

been gradually going away. High doses of cal/mag and, I think

it was B vites, helped about half the migraine sufferers

after 5 weeks.

Hmmm ... which might explain why Korean kimchi often has

high-calcium stuff in it, like seseme seeds or whole

ground up fish?

-- Heidi

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