Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 I'd be interested to see your advice sheet, please, it sounds very similar to the advice I give, but haven't got round to doing a sheet, and don't believe in reinventing the wheel, as long as you don't mind me plagiarising shamelessly! Thanks Alison Re: Weight loss Hi Robyn After efforting with raw food/increased exercise regimes for the many significantly overweight, which frankly achieved very little, I've devised a simple eat/breathe/move advice sheet based upon the high volume, low fat diet created by Powter. This has proved much more helpful - as one lady put it she can eat real food in real quantities rather than toy with a lettuce leaf and diet dressing... I've included suggestions such as slow down, chew more, eat when relaxed etc etc (contact me off-list if you would like a copy). For those who find even this too like hard work, Solgar Ref Manual Encyclopaedia of amino acids lists 2 with potential application to weight control: Acetyl L-carnitine (ALC) (contraindicated in pregnancy/breastfeeding) and L-Carnitine (no contraindications noted); both the above also list enhanced aerobic endurance to exercise. Hope you and the family are fine, look forward to catching up with you in Glasgow Best wishes Florabel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Many have posted about the battle to lose weight to help their liver heal and I've read where some have lost 30 pounds plus. I was just curious, since that's a significant amount of weight, how long did it take, and what did you do to lose it? Was it hard? Easy, because you were motivated? Does anyone have any stories they would like to share? The reason why I ask, is because I think weight and diet have play a big role in the functions of the liver and there may be members who are suffering from Fatty Liver or NASH that might benefit from others experiences at losing weight or improving their diet. I myself could probably benefit from losing some love handles myself :-) MaC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Between July 06 and Dec. 06, I lost 100 lbs. I would not recommend my method to anyone. My hair started falling out, and still is to this day. I basically could not eat because of pain and nausea. Since I went on pain management, I have a good appetite and love eating, but I now eat a pretty heart healthy diet. I have stabilized, but my hepatologist has told me that a liver transplant at this weight would be impossible. I am 5 10 and a half, and weigh 250. I'm fairly sure that this is not what you had in mind, but what can I say. I love to chime in. :-) Weight Loss Many have posted about the battle to lose weight to help their liver heal and I've read where some have lost 30 pounds plus. I was just curious, since that's a significant amount of weight, how long did it take, and what did you do to lose it? Was it hard? Easy, because you were motivated? Does anyone have any stories they would like to share? The reason why I ask, is because I think weight and diet have play a big role in the functions of the liver and there may be members who are suffering from Fatty Liver or NASH that might benefit from others experiences at losing weight or improving their diet. I myself could probably benefit from losing some love handles myself :-) MaC <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 We call fried chicken the " F " word in Weight Watchers. Jan H > > I avoid all fast-food places all the time and have for years! The only one > I > appreciate sometimes is the fish with that malt vinegar! Mmmmmmm. > An occasional Sonic hamburger is all I can stand. The others are > taste-wise > and philosophically more than I can stomach! > Somebody in my circle used to call the fried chicken places the " oil > change " > spot. > > > > The decline in our standard of living may not be a sign of economic > failure; > rather, it may be part of the cure for our economic ills. -- Hawken in > The Next Economy > > Re: Weight loss > > I can't eat at Mc's either anymore without getting sick. > > Colleen > > > Bob Aragon wrote: > one small hamburgerr and a small fry from micky d's will make me feel sick > to my stomache now. I used to eat a double quarter pounder. > > Re: Weight loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than going on a special diet, what most people who are overweight > > need to learn is how to eat. Today, most of the restaurants serve a lot of > > food, about the only thing they do serve in reasonable servings is > > vegetables. They advertise the large size of their meat portions, all you > > can eat salad bars which have lots of salads full of fat and little > > veggies. If we study the government's pyramid of recommended food for a > > day, and learn what servings are, we can eat healthy and not gain weight. > > And we need to really pay attention to what we are eating. What we eat > when > > we are preparing dinner has calories in it. What we eat when we clear off > > the table has calories. What we eat when we are watching TV has calories. > > And it is amazing how those calories add up to pounds on the butt and > hips. > > The definition of diet is the food we eat, so we are all on diets all the > > time, just not very good ones, and most of what people call dieting isn't > > good either because as you say, most people think you have to go without > to > > go on a diet. I joined Weight Watchers 3 years ago. Prior to that, I had > > been trying to do it on my own. I was cutting down on portions, but I was > > still eating a lot of fat, not much fiber, the calories were still high. > > Cutting down on portions can certainly be good, but we have to eat the > good > > food too, and it is amazing how good that good food can taste. I used to > be > > a fast food junky. If I were to go have a triple decker cheeseburger right > > now, I would probably get sick to my stomach from all the fat in it. As > > with anything else, after you have started changing something, it gets > > easier all the time until it is hard to do what you used to do. > > > > One of the things I have learned that helps me a lot is that our tongues > and > > taste buds like to eat a certain amount of flavors until they are > satisfied > > with that flavor. If you make a meal with a lot of very distinctive > > flavors, you will find yourself eating more than if you only have one food > > with a lot of flavor in it. That is one of the dangers of eating at > > buffets. Or Thanksgiving dinners > > > > I was told by the doctors at the Mayo clinic that there was a small chance > > that my liver could regenerate if I ate right and got healthier. I have > > been eating much better since then and that may be why my liver stayed > > stable so long. It wasn't something I was counting on, but I wanted to do > > it in case there was a chance. Even if I was going to die, I didn't want > to > > be so heavy they would have trouble lifing my casket at my funeral. I am > > sorry if that idea grosses some of you out, but that was where I was at > the > > time. My WW leader won't even let me verbalize the idea. > > > > Jan H > > > > > > > > > > I got a book at the library which I normally would never > > > get, it was at one of their book sales. It was Dr. Phil > > > 7 tips to Weight loss. > > > > > > I don't like diet books and alway thought it was something > > > they wanted you to eliminate, some things from your diet > > > which your body was suppose to have in order to get > > > all the vitamins and minerals your body needed. > > > > > > However, I picked this book up the other day and started > > > to read it. It wasn't just a diet book, but a kind > > > of book of encouragement and one that motivates people into > > > making their life more fulfilling. I don't know if > > > any of you ever read it or what you think about it... > > > but it was very good. > > > > > > I see now that you can purchase it on Amazon, on line > > > for 1 cent " used " ...of course of which you will have to > > > pay alot more for the shipping than the book. > > > http://www.amazon. com/Ultimate- Weight-Solution- Keys- > > > Freedom/dp/07432367 42 > > > > > > I usually don't recommend anyone with cirrhosis to > > > go on a diet cause of the simple fact that most cirrhosed > > > people end up mal nourished by the time they are placed > > > on the transplant list and I'm a firm believer that may > > > diets out there make them more mal nourished. However, > > > those with a fatty liver or are well over weight may need > > > to do this...also some caregivers like me. > > > > > > I am not a book promoter, I never promote anything like > > > this usually...but the very good reasonings in this book > > > and how to keep the weight off after you have reached your > > > goal and the inspirational and motivational methods of > > > doing this was a real surprise to me and maybe to you. > > > I'm only posting the link to it here, so you won't have > > > trouble finding it on the web if you decide you like to > > > read it. > > > > > > This really isn't a diet book in that it doesn't elimate > > > anything at all from your diet, it just gives you background > > > on how to lose the weight without starving yourself and > > > the methods to do it. > > > > > > If you do read it, please let me know what you think. > > > > > > I'm still under the weather...it has been a long hard > > > road. I'm trying to learn to avoid stress and keep > > > myself calm down in dealing with the insurance and > > > things...but my stomach feels like it has been run > > > over with wheels on a vehicle...and the headaches > > > haven't helped much. > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jan H > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 LOL.. > > > > > > > > > > I got a book at the library which I normally would never > > > > > get, it was at one of their book sales. It was Dr. Phil > > > > > 7 tips to Weight loss. > > > > > > > > > > I don't like diet books and alway thought it was something > > > > > they wanted you to eliminate, some things from your diet > > > > > which your body was suppose to have in order to get > > > > > all the vitamins and minerals your body needed. > > > > > > > > > > However, I picked this book up the other day and started > > > > > to read it. It wasn't just a diet book, but a kind > > > > > of book of encouragement and one that motivates people into > > > > > making their life more fulfilling. I don't know if > > > > > any of you ever read it or what you think about it... > > > > > but it was very good. > > > > > > > > > > I see now that you can purchase it on Amazon, on line > > > > > for 1 cent " used " ...of course of which you will have to > > > > > pay alot more for the shipping than the book. > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Ultimate- Weight-Solution- Keys- > > > > > Freedom/dp/07432367 42 > > > > > > > > > > I usually don't recommend anyone with cirrhosis to > > > > > go on a diet cause of the simple fact that most cirrhosed > > > > > people end up mal nourished by the time they are placed > > > > > on the transplant list and I'm a firm believer that may > > > > > diets out there make them more mal nourished. However, > > > > > those with a fatty liver or are well over weight may need > > > > > to do this...also some caregivers like me. > > > > > > > > > > I am not a book promoter, I never promote anything like > > > > > this usually...but the very good reasonings in this book > > > > > and how to keep the weight off after you have reached your > > > > > goal and the inspirational and motivational methods of > > > > > doing this was a real surprise to me and maybe to you. > > > > > I'm only posting the link to it here, so you won't have > > > > > trouble finding it on the web if you decide you like to > > > > > read it. > > > > > > > > > > This really isn't a diet book in that it doesn't elimate > > > > > anything at all from your diet, it just gives you background > > > > > on how to lose the weight without starving yourself and > > > > > the methods to do it. > > > > > > > > > > If you do read it, please let me know what you think. > > > > > > > > > > I'm still under the weather...it has been a long hard > > > > > road. I'm trying to learn to avoid stress and keep > > > > > myself calm down in dealing with the insurance and > > > > > things...but my stomach feels like it has been run > > > > > over with wheels on a vehicle...and the headaches > > > > > haven't helped much. > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jan H > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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