Guest guest Posted August 27, 2000 Report Share Posted August 27, 2000 Dear , A patient of mine got rid of her cold sore ( " Miraculously, " she said.)using Mahonia aquifolium gel which I had made her for a completely different complaint. Much to my surprise, because I had never considered Mahonia as a topical antiviral; just for psoriasis. It might help with shingles as well. Essential oils of bergamot, ravensara, niaouli in a base of Calopyllum inophylum fixed oil applied topically work well. All the best Morag Chacksfield BSc, MNIMH moragchacksfield@... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Very important to address immune system and nerve balance. Used Hypericum oil to great effect for the post herpetic neuralgia occurring after an attack. Lorraine shingles > 70 yr old woman (my mother) with shingles, caught in > fairly early stages, 2 lesions on back, blistering but > not crusting yet. feeling tired, recent indigestion > but no nerve-type pains. Previous episode of shingles > in 1959 with nerve pains in left arm + rash. Doctor > has prescribed Aciclovir. > > I'd like to treat topically and am thinking of > Hypericum & , but was wondering what would be > the best form, tincture/ cream, Hypericum oil? Does > anyone have any suggestions or experience in treating > shingles. > > best wishes, > Isobel > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Dear Isobel, I treated my mother in law for shingles some time ago. Topically she found hypericum oil extremely helpful and very soothing. I also gave Hypericum internally in tinc form along with other things for other problems. Unfortunately, although she visited her GP, her doctor was very dismissive and when it continued over a number of months she was told it was eczema because " shingles doesn't last this long " . Despite my advice to go back to her GP if the blisters went anywhere near her eyes, (which they did and she dutifully went to her GP), no appropriate action was taken and she now has significant damage to the retinal nerve. I don't know whether this could have been prevented. The damage has resulted in lights appearing to " flare " at night (like car headlights on a wet windscreen) and difficulty focussing in low light levels. One of her main hobbies is reading (she's in her mid 70's) and this is becoming more and more difficult. She becomes very disheartened at times. I shall be very interested to see what other people recommend. Love Sue Salmon shingles > 70 yr old woman (my mother) with shingles, caught in > fairly early stages, 2 lesions on back, blistering but > not crusting yet. feeling tired, recent indigestion > but no nerve-type pains. Previous episode of shingles > in 1959 with nerve pains in left arm + rash. Doctor > has prescribed Aciclovir. > > I'd like to treat topically and am thinking of > Hypericum & , but was wondering what would be > the best form, tincture/ cream, Hypericum oil? Does > anyone have any suggestions or experience in treating > shingles. > > best wishes, > Isobel > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 I've found hypericum oil on its own works very well for pain and healing of shingles and other herpetic eruptions (chicken pox, cold sores, etc) love, Sara shingles 70 yr old woman (my mother) with shingles, caught in fairly early stages, 2 lesions on back, blistering but not crusting yet. feeling tired, recent indigestion but no nerve-type pains. Previous episode of shingles in 1959 with nerve pains in left arm + rash. Doctor has prescribed Aciclovir. I'd like to treat topically and am thinking of Hypericum & , but was wondering what would be the best form, tincture/ cream, Hypericum oil? Does anyone have any suggestions or experience in treating shingles. best wishes, Isobel __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 I find hypericum FE, Avena FE, Echinacea, Passiflora, Verbena and Passiflora all very helpful in shingles. Normal doses, and in combn. with hypericum oil externally Sally Mid Wales > > Reply-To: ukherbal-list > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 02:41:27 -0800 (PST) > To: UK Herbal List <ukherbal-list > > Subject: shingles > > 70 yr old woman (my mother) with shingles, caught in > fairly early stages, 2 lesions on back, blistering but > not crusting yet. feeling tired, recent indigestion > but no nerve-type pains. Previous episode of shingles > in 1959 with nerve pains in left arm + rash. Doctor > has prescribed Aciclovir. > > I'd like to treat topically and am thinking of > Hypericum & , but was wondering what would be > the best form, tincture/ cream, Hypericum oil? Does > anyone have any suggestions or experience in treating > shingles. > > best wishes, > Isobel > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Tell us what book states that DMSO is viricidal in vivo. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Here you go Noel. " It is thought that DMSO dissolves the virus organism's coating of protein and leaves it unprotected with only its core of nucleic acid exposed to the immune mechanism of the host animal. It did just that to a murine virus-induced leukemia " p 59 DMSO Nature's Healer references the following publication. Sebert, F.B. Ann. N.Y. Acad Sci.,243:175, 1967 At the risk of repeating my messages you might also find the below of interest. -----Forwarded Message----- To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: [DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO] shingles Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:58:03 -0600 " In the form of a spray DMSO[concentration was not mentioned here, but elsewhere in this book 75% is recommended or 50% if sensitive] was coated on the skin lesions.....Except of a pain with a sensation of burning and a strong odor, none of the patinets experienced any undesirable side effects of an objective or subjective nature. The best and most spectacular results were achieved in people suffering with herpes zoster (shingles). .... 17 patients had regression of symptoms in forty eight hours with just two spray applications per day. " p 65 DMSO Nature's Healer by Dr Morton There are other studies and reports of treating shingles with DMSO in Dr 's book. Garnet > Tell us what book states that DMSO is viricidal in vivo. > > Noel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Garnet. your reply was IT IS THOUGHT that DMSO==== Theory and scientific proof are two diffrent things, 'three cell lines were incubated with DMSO. It was shown it is an inhibitor of viral production ,BUT its effect is TRANSIENT:viral production resumes when the compound is removed. it does not inactivate the virus and it FAILS to prevent viral infection or to inhibit expression of p24 on the surface of the infected cell " Reference:Intervirology 1991:32:59-64 Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Morton is an author who writes opinions about certain medical issues,He is not an MD nr does he have any degrees in microbiology or Pharmacology. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Dr Morton is a podiatrist. I don't know what kind of medical degree one must have to practice podiatry, but he had a 17 year practice of podiatric medicine according to the bio on the back of the 1991 edition of DMSO Nature's Healer. Why does it matter what his degrees are in? He is reporting on other investigators' studies and scientific journal articles. Not conducting them himself. Garnet > Morton is an author who writes opinions about certain medical > issues,He is not an MD nr does he have any degrees in microbiology or > Pharmacology. > > Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Thank you all for your input on shingles. This is the 4th outbreak that my mother (who is 80) has had since 1995. Last night she did lay cloths soaked in cs on her stomach and reported today that the blisters looked better. The idea of mixing DMSO and cs sounds like a good one. I'll test a small area first to see how she reacts to any sensation. Thanks to all of you to had suggestions. So appreciated. Deb > Interesting point of view. For me, if it works on my fever blisters > and someone's shingles that is enough to know it is of 'value' in > combating viral infections. I do look forward to more reserach on DMSO > in the future. > > Garnet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Hi, Noel, Try to beat shingles out of ganglia with magnetic pulsers. My friend with HIV 2 showed negative in the blood test. A lady with shingles is following to drop blood test from 32 to 8 (4 is negative mark). There is always a hope. isao ----- Original Message ----- From: noelw@... The shingles virus stays in t he ganglia, and canerupt anytime. I know of no studies that show any drug can kill shinglesin the ganglia. My MD attests to this. I know because i have to takeacylovir for the rest of my life so it does not come back in my eyes. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 OK Noel, I get your point. I apologize to the list for saying it " kills " viruses. My bad. I guess I just am not as familiar with it as you are. To me, from what little I had read and experienced it seemed to be true. BTW if you have so many books and so much knowledge of DMSO why are you not posting more information? I would appreciate the help and obviously I need it. Garnet > It is not just a point of view, it is a scientific fact , where yours is > an anecdotal result. of symptom relief. Again There is no Scientific > Documentation that DMSO is viricidal In vivo. It may supress the > symptoms of shingles,as does cortisone and Iododeoxuridine., but the > shingles will come back sooner or later. Consult any infectious disease > MD,and they will tell you the same. > > Noel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Sounds like a good plan Deb. My heart goes out to your Mom. Hoping she feels better soon. I am thinking of her and seeing her healed. Garnet > Thank you all for your input on shingles. This is the 4th outbreak > that my mother (who is 80) has had since 1995. Last night she did lay > cloths soaked in cs on her stomach and reported today that the > blisters looked better. The idea of mixing DMSO and cs sounds like a > good one. I'll test a small area first to see how she reacts to any > sensation. Thanks to all of you to had suggestions. So appreciated. > Deb > > > > > Interesting point of view. For me, if it works on my fever blisters > > and someone's shingles that is enough to know it is of 'value' in > > combating viral infections. I do look forward to more reserach on > DMSO > > in the future. > > > > Garnet > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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