Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Maggie wrote: > Hi everyone, here's a tricky one; does anyone have any experience of using > bloodroot (Sanguinaria canadensis) as a paste, to apply to the chest in the > treatment of lung cancer, to 'help draw it out'. Physically impossible. Whoever suggests such a thing is a quack, fraud, completely irresponsible, and despicable. .... just my two cents. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi , Having seen two cases where extensive breast damage was caused by this salve, and having had a conversation with an oncologist where he carefully explained exactly what the zinc oxide does I would say absolutely emphatically it should not be used under any circumstances. In one case the patient had used the salve and been told that the grayish lump of tissue she proudly showed her friends was the removed tumor. It was most likely tissue destroyed by the zinc oxide component of the paste. When I saw the lady she was in the final stages of metastasis cancer having been convinced her breast cancer had been got rid of by the salve and taken no further treatment, of any sort. The second case was photographs of a lady who having used the salve, lost so much of the breast tissue and the underlying muscle that although some tissue repair happened it was far too late to save the ladies life. And she was in a huge amount of pain directly caused by the damage the salve was causing. If you look on the quack busters sight you can also see one unfortunate lady who used one of these salves on a cancer on her nose, she lost the nose, with extensive damage to face. Its not the herbs which are doing the mischief but the zinc oxide and we should be absolutely adamant in warning people away from using such monstrously destructive preparations. I suspect the response by the manufacturers would be that they were being used wrongly but we would be up in arms at orthodoxy using such destructive stuff and we should be similarly adamant about them. Bras again > > > > Looking through the emails recently there was a query regarding > large bras. > Ambrose 08706099000 will send a catalogue, they stock > American bras-Glamorize up to 54 H cup. They do have built in > padded shoulder straps and are front fastening. > Tina.Alder > Alnus@b... > > > > > > List Owner > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Dear Maggie, See response to 's e-mail, the paste your lady is referring to is likely to have more than just sanguinaria in it and is called, black salve, its effects are horrific please tell her in no uncertain terms not to use it. In this form as says they are mixing herbs with zinc oxide which kills the tissue and then claiming this is tumor tissue. In this form it seems to be quackery at its worse. Sorry to be so blunt and to the point but as in my other e-mail this is appalling and the damage it can do irrepairable. Bras again Looking through the emails recently there was a query regarding large bras. Ambrose 08706099000 will send a catalogue, they stock American bras-Glamorize up to 54 H cup. They do have built in padded shoulder straps and are front fastening. Tina.Alder Alnus@... List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Hi Thank you. You said what I wanted to say but didn't!! I personally wouldn't touch this stuff with a barge pole and would certainly try and dissuade any desperate patient from using these salves. Desperate people with life threatening diseases are so vulnerable to this sort of extreme treatment that seems to offer them hope and a solution. > > Hi everyone, here's a tricky one; does anyone have any experience > of using > > bloodroot (Sanguinaria canadensis) as a paste, to apply to the > chest in the > > treatment of lung cancer, to 'help draw it out'. > > I have a pt who's father has lung cancer and she has read about > this > > somewhere, she also read that it is very toxic and must only be > used by a > > practitioner and with constant supervision. > > I have only ever used it internally for bronchial conditions and I > know it > > is emetic in large doses, it does have local anaesthetic > properties and can > > also be used in a nasal spray for nasal polyps, but I can't find > any > > references for application in this way. > > Thanks > > Maggie > > Bras again > > > > > > > > Looking through the emails recently there was a query regarding > > large bras. > > Ambrose 08706099000 will send a catalogue, they stock > > American bras-Glamorize up to 54 H cup. They do have built in > > padded shoulder straps and are front fastening. > > Tina.Alder > > Alnus@b... > > > > > > > > > > > > List Owner > > > > > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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