Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 i had a friend who used to drink cheap nasty cask wine and ( unfortunatly used to tell me ) it seems he had a similar problem of the runs. maybe make your mum some ginger beer from the NT book hhhehehe _____ From: Filippa [mailto:filippa91@...] Sent: Monday, 22 December 2003 7:30 AM Subject: the runs Sorry for the subject line. Couldn't think of what else to write. It's about my mother, she has permanently " runny poos " as she calls them (she's 64). She has a mostly organic wholefoods diet. I'm pretty sure she doesn't eat much if at all in the way of grains, except maybe some rice. (Hmmm, maybe she eats pasta - must check that one). Otherwise, she has too much nasty cheap cask wine - I think about 5 glasses a night. So, if it isn't gluten that is giving her the runs, could it be the additives in the cask wine? I sent her some HCl recently and she's been taking that with her meals (she did the bicarb test and didn't burp for 11 minutes). The HCl hasn't made any difference. TIA for any feedback, Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 >Sorry for the subject line. Couldn't think of what else to write. It's about my mother, she has permanently " runny poos " as she calls them (she's 64). She has a mostly organic wholefoods diet. I'm pretty sure she doesn't eat much if at all in the way of grains, except maybe some rice. (Hmmm, maybe she eats pasta - must check that one). Otherwise, she has too much nasty cheap cask wine - I think about 5 glasses a night. Other IgA allergies besides gluten can cause the same symptoms. The other culprits seem to commonly be casein, eggs, and yeast. I have problems with most casein, besides the gluten, though it doesn't make me as sick as gluten, it does give me the runs (even butter, alas!). Kefir doesn't cause that problem though, nor some cheeses, so I'm not exactly sure WHAT is the issue with butter/cream. Some cheap wines set me off ... I think it because they have malt in them. Our homemade wine I certainly can't drink -- I'm not sure if it is because of the yeast we used (grown in barley malt) or something else in our process. It could also be a fructose issue -- see the other post. I've been getting these anomolous diarrhea that I can't track down ... and I'm thinking it probably IS fructose. The last one happened after a meal I'm sure had no gluten, but it did have corn syrup. I don't usually eat the stuff, I don't like pop and never have, nor most candy except expensive chocolates (which don't usually use corn syrup, only the cheap stuff does). The article I posted today seems to indicate that about 36% of Europeans can't digest fructose correctly, which seems like a rather large number of people! -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 > i had a friend who used to drink cheap nasty cask wine and (unfortunatly > used to tell me)it seems he had a similar problem of the runs. So maybe it's all the yucky stuff they add like preservatives that does it. > maybe make your mum some ginger beer from the NT book hhhehehe Good idea but she's on the other side of Australia, s'pose I could post it but I don't think that would get her off the plonk! She has NT though and I've managed to influence her in a few ways: CLO, CNO, more animal fat. - Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Heidi, thanks for the feedback. I've passed it on. Hopefully it will inspire her to make her own wines. I know she dreams of doing it. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Coconut milk, coconut water and raw eggs does it to me. Del --- In , " Filippa " <filippa91@y...> wrote: > > > > i had a friend who used to drink cheap nasty cask wine and (unfortunatly > > used to tell me)it seems he had a similar problem of the runs. > > So maybe it's all the yucky stuff they add like preservatives that does it. > > > > maybe make your mum some ginger beer from the NT book hhhehehe > > Good idea but she's on the other side of Australia, s'pose I could post it but I don't think that would get her off the plonk! She has NT though and I've managed to influence her in a few ways: CLO, CNO, more animal fat. > > - Filippa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 >Heidi, thanks for the feedback. I've passed it on. Hopefully it will inspire her to make her own wines. I know she dreams of doing it. > >Filippa Wines are pretty easy, but you have to be careful of the yeasts. It takes a lot of muscle though, to hoist the big carbouys most folk use. I can't do it myself well. I tend toward kefir-beer, which is really easy! -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 > I tend toward kefir-beer, which is really easy! - Heidi Yum, must get round to that sometime. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 How do you make kefir beer Heidi? I have kefir grains and I would like to try it, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schuppenhauer Wines are pretty easy, but you have to be careful of the yeasts. It takes a lot of muscle though, to hoist the big carbouys most folk use. I can't do it myself well. I tend toward kefir-beer, which is really easy! -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 >How do you make kefir beer Heidi? >I have kefir grains and I would like to try it, > >Bruce Put a spare kefir grain or two in some fruit juice, let it ferment. Use a container that doesn't explode (we've had lots of discussions on that in the past!). I use a container that has a flexible plastic lid that " leaks " a bit and isn't on too tight -- old kimchi jars are good that way. You don't want explosions ... ! Pour off what you want to drink after about 48 hours, then refill. Leave the stuff in the bottom ... you'll get a nice yeast colony growing and then it ferments faster. I do clean the container every so often, but I save some of the yeast. Don't use juices with preservatives. Don't let it go too long, or you get vinegar and it kills the kefir grain. It's good vinegar though! The grains are no good for milk after they've been doing kefir beer, and they don't grow in juice. But they should survive at least 6 months or so (I tend to kill mine making accidental vinegar ...) -- Heidi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Ok, thanks Heidi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schuppenhauer >How do you make kefir beer Heidi? >I have kefir grains and I would like to try it, > >Bruce Put a spare kefir grain or two in some fruit juice, let it ferment. Use a container that doesn't explode (we've had lots of discussions on that in the past!). I use a container that has a flexible plastic lid that " leaks " a bit and isn't on too tight -- old kimchi jars are good that way. You don't want explosions ... ! Pour off what you want to drink after about 48 hours, then refill. Leave the stuff in the bottom ... you'll get a nice yeast colony growing and then it ferments faster. I do clean the container every so often, but I save some of the yeast. Don't use juices with preservatives. Don't let it go too long, or you get vinegar and it kills the kefir grain. It's good vinegar though! The grains are no good for milk after they've been doing kefir beer, and they don't grow in juice. But they should survive at least 6 months or so (I tend to kill mine making accidental vinegar ...) -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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