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>Has anyone heard of this guy and/or read his book? Anyone follow his

protocols? Would love to hear thoughts on his " summation " :

>

><http://goodteeth.tripod.com/summation.htm>http://goodteeth.tripod.com/summatio\

n.htm

Wow, what a mix of facts and otherwise! I didn't read the whole thing but

I couldn't resist a few comments ...

1. Tooth cavities will be ended simply by rinsing acids off the teeth. ACIDS

ALONE EAT THE ENAMEL. THERE WOULD BE NO CAVITIES IN THE WORLD if all people

rinsed acids from their teeth promptly. Just sip water, milk or other liquid

while eating. Water reacts with acids.

I wish I could clean my sink by just rinsing it off with water! Besides, later

on he says there are other ways to clean teeth. And what about saliva? Saliva is

supposed to keep your mouth rinsed.

2. Foods and drinks, other than those containing acids, have no action on

tooth enamel. SUGARS HAVE NO ACTION ON THE ENAMEL.

Sure, sugars have no effect unless bacteria eat them and they turn to plaque,

and would say they won't do that if the teeth are healthy. But he doesn't

seem to believe in bacterial action?

3. Bacteria cannot damage the enamel (calcium hydroxy phosphate). There is no

such thing as decay of the enamel since bacteria require carbon and hydrogen to

live. Billions of human and animal remains show teeth and bones are resistant to

earth-bound organisms.

Hmm. Is this RAW hydrogen and carbon, or say, the carbon and hydrogen in, say,

sugar? I admit if my mouth was full of dirt my teeth likely wouldn't rot, maybe

if I ate dirt more often I wouldn't need to brush. Or does he mean,

" earth-bound " as opposed to " martian " ?

4. Teeth reenamalize when clean. TO MAKE TEETH CLEAN ONE BRUSHES WITH ANY BAR

SOAP. Soap washes off in just 2 rinses. What about toothpastes? Glycerine in

all tooth pastes is so sticky that it takes 27 washes to get it off. Teeth

brushed with any toothpaste are coated with a film and CANNOT PROPERLY

REENAMELIZE.

See, that is what grandma always said. " Wash out your mouth with soap young

lady! " . Sheesh. How was I to know it would promote re-enamelizing? (He doesn't

say anything about baking soda ... if a person doesn't want to use toothpaste,

it seems like a more palatable alternative. Or even Dom's idea of using wood ash

and salt).

5. Taking calcium and phosphate in the diet results in reenamelization of the

teeth, but only when they are clean. Bar soap does a perfect job in cleaning the

surface. The enamel thickens and becomes less sensitive. Adenosine diphosphatase

furnishes phosphate to teeth.

Well, I'll agree on the calcium. Maybe on phosphorus (what about folks that

don't clear phosphorus from their system and so get fibromyalgia?).

6. Gums are disinfected by brushing with any bar soap. Not only bacteria and

viruses are destroyed promptly by small amounts of soap in water, but also white

flies and aphids. Gardeners: Spray 1 tsp of dishwashing soap in 1 gallon of

water to kill white flies and aphids.

Thank goodness! I was sooo worried about getting flies and aphids in my mouth

when I garden! (Actually I don't recall that bacteria OR viruses are

particularly killed by soap. Soap does rinse them off surfaces they may be stuck

to. It DOES kill aphids nicely, and makes soil more porous to water).

..... I'm not familiar enough with the chemistry of tooth decay to answer the

others. I think he DOES have some points, but he also sounds like he's " on a

roll " with his own theorizing. If a person is healthy, they should have thick

enamel, well spaced teeth, plenty of saliva to neutralize acids -- that was

Price's whole point.

-- Heidi

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Heidi wrote -- <<Wow, what a mix of facts and otherwise! I didn't read the whole

thing but I couldn't resist a few comments ... >>

---- I recently asked my dentist which was worse for your teeth, sugar or

honey... her reply was that it's the constant munching/grazing people seems to

be doing nowadays, not giving the mouth time to re-balance it's natural pH level

which causes more damage than sugar or honey per se... said that if people

would change their eating habits, had regular meals, no snacks etc. there'd be

less cavities.. didn't pursue this further as my mouth became temporarily

incapacitated:-)

<<(He doesn't say anything about baking soda ... if a person doesn't want to use

toothpaste, it seems like a more palatable alternative. Or even Dom's idea of

using wood ash and salt).>>

----- again, same dentist said it's the correct brushing that cleans the teeth

properly and that one would get the same benefits by using tooth brush alone

without any paste... using wood ash and salt would probably be pretty good

BTW my dentist and I don't agree on the use of fluoride and she's too nice to

tell me off for not allowing my kids to have fluoride treatment... she also

knows we do NOT use fluoride-containing toothpaste... have been meaning to get

her NAPD as a present... not sure it's a good idea.:-)

Dedy

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>---- I recently asked my dentist which was worse for your teeth, sugar or

honey... her reply was that it's the constant munching/grazing people seems to

be doing nowadays, not giving the mouth time to re-balance it's natural pH level

which causes more damage than sugar or honey per se... said that if people

would change their eating habits, had regular meals, no snacks etc. there'd be

less cavities.. didn't pursue this further as my mouth became temporarily

incapacitated:-)

When I'm eating " the way I do when I'm single "

my teeth never get " mossy " . I detest mossy teeth!

The foods I used to eat all the time just don't form

plaque. I never thought about it much until I got married

and THEN started having more teeth cleaning issues.

I still have a hard time picking out what causes the

" mossiness " . Probably easy availability of certain

types of sugar. For instance, an apple doesn't cause it.

Sugar in coffee does. Yam noodles in soup do not.

Anyway, I only brushed sporadically on my " single "

diet and the dentist always said I was doing a great

job!

> ----- again, same dentist said it's the correct brushing that cleans the teeth

properly and that one would get the same benefits by using tooth brush alone

without any paste... using wood ash and salt would probably be pretty good

My dentists have said pretty much the same thing.

But a brush with no " flavoring " just grosses me out.

>BTW my dentist and I don't agree on the use of fluoride and she's too nice to

tell me off for not allowing my kids to have fluoride treatment... she also

knows we do NOT use fluoride-containing toothpaste... have been meaning to get

her NAPD as a present... not sure it's a good idea.:-)

I've been tempted myself! I'm not sure what harm it could cause. Worst

case, she thinks you are a friendly eccentric. But I've also heard that a person

has to hear something 7 times before they pay attention, so you

could knock off one of those 7 times. (I don't remember the exact

number or where that came from, but I like the concept!).

I'm not sure what I would do, if I were a dentist, with the Price

info though. What do you do, tell a Mom that her kid has a

skinny face because she's not being fed right? Esp. when no

one has really done a full regimented study on the issue? Price

made some great observations, and he certainly picked up on

something important, but there isn't the level of detail etc. that

would be needed to make a recommendation in today's

atmosphere.

-- Heidi

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In a message dated 12/19/03 6:18:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

heidis@... writes:

> Well, I'll agree on the calcium. Maybe on phosphorus (what about folks that

> don't clear phosphorus from their system and so get fibromyalgia?).

What about people who get calcium deposits in their soft tissue? It would be

absolutely impossible to utilize the calcium without phosphorus, since by far

the dominant salt in bone is calcium phosphate.

Chris

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--- Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...>

wrote: >

> My dentists have said pretty much the same thing.

> But a brush with no " flavoring " just grosses me out.

>

I've been doing it for a few months now. YOu generate

enough saliva while brushing that there is plenty of

fluid in the mouth, and rinsing the brush regularly

leaves a fresh feeling in your mouth. You just get

used to it.

> I'm not sure what I would do, if I were a dentist,

> with the Price

> info though. What do you do, tell a Mom that her kid

> has a

> skinny face because she's not being fed right? Esp.

> when no

> one has really done a full regimented study on the

> issue?

If the dentist believed in it, they would take it to

the dentists meetings, boards, reviews, annual get

togethers etc and discuss it with their colleagues to

spread the word around. And then, as with any

profit-making organisation when faced with info which

could dramatically reduce their profits, they will aim

to discredit it and suppress it. JMHO

Jo

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I rarely get cavities but I am plagued with plaque. When I read this (about

a 6 months ago) by Dr. Judd I stopped using toothpaste and started brushing

with plain bar soap. I still floss nightly. Usually between professional

cleanings I grow so much plaque that it takes the dentist about 20 minutes

of excavating to remove it. This time there is barely any. My regular

cleaning is scheduled for next month. I'm curious to see if the dentist

remarks on the difference. It didn't take long to get used to brushing with

soap. My mom said she had to do that as a child because they either didn't

have toothpaste or couldn't afford it. Be sure it's just plain soap. I

tried a liquid

hand soap and that was horrible!

Jean

fo Dr. Gerald Judd???

> Has anyone heard of this guy and/or read his book? Anyone follow his

protocols? Would love to hear thoughts on his " summation " :

>

> http://goodteeth.tripod.com/summation.htm

>

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

>

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This is interesting to me. I have no cavities but always have had

quite a bit of plaque/tartar. Can anyone else corroborate, or provide

other links besides Judd? TIA.

Tom

> I rarely get cavities but I am plagued with plaque. When I read

this (about

> a 6 months ago) by Dr. Judd I stopped using toothpaste and started

brushing

> with plain bar soap. I still floss nightly. Usually between

professional

> cleanings I grow so much plaque that it takes the dentist about 20

minutes

> of excavating to remove it. This time there is barely any. My regular

> cleaning is scheduled for next month. I'm curious to see if the dentist

> remarks on the difference. It didn't take long to get used to

brushing with

> soap. My mom said she had to do that as a child because they either

didn't

> have toothpaste or couldn't afford it. Be sure it's just plain soap. I

> tried a liquid

> hand soap and that was horrible!

> Jean

>

> fo Dr. Gerald Judd???

>

>

> > Has anyone heard of this guy and/or read his book? Anyone follow his

> protocols? Would love to hear thoughts on his " summation " :

> >

> > http://goodteeth.tripod.com/summation.htm

> >

> >

> > TIA,

> >

> >

> >

> >

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