RE: Need help on Gall Stones

[Guest guest]

Hi Folks...

My 63 yr old Mom has had a gall stone for a while .

Apparently it is just one but rather large.

I would like to hear of any ideas of how to disolve this stone so she can

begin to eat animal fat again along with a few other things she has to avoid at

the moment.

Thanks in advance, happy new year!!!!

Tim

[Guest guest]

You can do a search on this web site for alternative possibilities.

http://curezone.com/

Re: Need help on Gall Stones

Hi Folks...

My 63 yr old Mom has had a gall stone for a while .

Apparently it is just one but rather large.

I would like to hear of any ideas of how to disolve this stone so she can

begin to eat animal fat again along with a few other things she has to avoid

at the moment.

Thanks in advance, happy new year!!!!

Tim

[Guest guest]

On the WAP web site there is an article under " ASK THE DOCTOR " about

gall stones.

Sheila

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wrote:

> You can do a search on this web site for alternative possibilities.

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> http://curezone.com/

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> Re: Need help on Gall Stones

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> Hi Folks...

> My 63 yr old Mom has had a gall stone for a while .

> Apparently it is just one but rather large.

> I would like to hear of any ideas of how to disolve this stone so

she can

> begin to eat animal fat again along with a few other things she has

to avoid

> at the moment.

> Thanks in advance, happy new year!!!!

> Tim

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>> I would like to hear of any ideas of how to disolve this stone so she

can begin to eat animal fat again along with a few other things she has to

avoid at the moment.

In my personal experience, a person with gallstones can eat as much fat as

she wants, as long as she finds out what food she is allergic to that is

causing the gallstones. For me, and for a lot of people, it is wheat. When

my gallstones were active if I had a couple of pieces of bread, then just a

tiny amount of fat would trigger an attack. But if I was not eating any

bread, I could eat a plate of loaded nachos followed by a dish of premium

ice cream and have no problems. The fat is what causes the gallbladder to

contract, so if you're eating a food that irritates your system then when

the fat causes a contraction, the contraction will trigger an attack. But

the fat is not the *cause* of the attack, just the trigger. You can read

more about my personal story (below) and also I recommend the book that

helped me figure out the problem, Dr. Braly's Food Allergy and Nutrition

Revolution. Excellent resource.

http://members.ispwest.com/paden/essays/gallstones.htm

A brief update to my story: after 3 years of strictly avoiding all

wheat/gluten, I can now eat it in small amounts again without triggering

attacks.

~ Carma ~

" God has given you all you need to train and educate your children at home -

it's in real books and real life. " ~ Clay son ~

[Guest guest]

Great essay, Carma. Kudos for standing up to those docs.

Do you know the mechanism by which the food allergies cause the

gallstones? I have " silent " gallstones, seen on ultrasound more than

10 years ago which have never bothered me, I don't think... at least

not pain-wise. Although, I have to wonder to what extent my digestive

disturbances are related.

In my case I think that undereating might have caused the gallstones

to form in the first place, although I certainly had untreated food

allergies for many years as well.

A few years back had an episode of septic shock at which time a

surgeon wanted to remove the gallbladder thinking that was the cause

of the infection (while the real cause was obviously not that), and I

didn't even have any abdominal pain whatsoever. Sheesh.

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[Guest guest]

>Do you know the mechanism by which the food allergies cause the

>gallstones? I have " silent " gallstones, seen on ultrasound more than

>10 years ago which have never bothered me, I don't think... at least

>not pain-wise. Although, I have to wonder to what extent my digestive

>disturbances are related.

Gallbladder problems are common in celiac -- " celiac " being what

happens when you have severe gluten intolerance for a long time.

No one seems to know WHY but there are a couple of theories:

1. The gluten intolerance causes the body to create auto-immune

antibodies that attack the organs (they attack other organs too,

such as the liver and pancreas).

2. The gluten intolerance irritates the upper intestine, and

eventually destroys the surface layer. This irritation also

closes off the opening where the gall bladder empties,

effectively shutting it off.

The " gluten intolerance " here is an IgA food allergy. There are

other IgA food allergies (yeast, casein, eggs, soy, being the ones

now talked about). IgG allergies can cause gut issues too, but

I haven't heard as much scientifically about them..

IgE allergies tend to cause skin and breathing problems.

Most folks I've heard from that get tested for IgG or IgA

allergies, the avoid those foods, do a LOT better. It's hard

to get tested for IgA allergies, but it seems that a lot of

folks that have IgA allergies have a matching IgG one.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Dear Tim,

The alternative treatment for dissolving gall stones is a combination

of olive oil and apple cider vinegar every morning. I don't know the

amounts but maybe if you websearch some details will come up.

The best,

Bee

>

> Hi Folks...

> My 63 yr old Mom has had a gall stone for a while .

> Apparently it is just one but rather large.

> I would like to hear of any ideas of how to disolve this stone so

she can begin to eat animal fat again along with a few other things

she has to avoid at the moment.

> Thanks in advance, happy new year!!!!

> Tim

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Heidi.. I was off all grains strictly, a la SCD for maybe 6

months and now off just gluten grains, not sure I'm feeling much of a

difference between grain-free, gluten-free or even with small amounts

of wheat. But because of my health issues it makes sense to be at

least GF, so I'm hoping that it'll help in the longer run.

> IgE allergies tend to cause skin and breathing problems

Speaking of which, my sister has a mysterious red rash on her face

and down her neck, similar to when she found she was allergic to

strawberries, but this time she can't figure out what it could be. It

feels hot and a bit itchy.

She started a small amount of Primal Defense around the time this

started, but then stopped it, and that was more than a few days ago,

so I can't imagine that could be it. I wonder if it's a food or maybe

some other kind of toxic exposure..

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> Gallbladder problems are common in celiac -- " celiac " being what

> happens when you have severe gluten intolerance for a long time.

> No one seems to know WHY but there are a couple of theories:

>

> 1. The gluten intolerance causes the body to create auto-immune

> antibodies that attack the organs (they attack other organs too,

> such as the liver and pancreas).

>

> 2. The gluten intolerance irritates the upper intestine, and

> eventually destroys the surface layer. This irritation also

> closes off the opening where the gall bladder empties,

> effectively shutting it off.

>

> The " gluten intolerance " here is an IgA food allergy. There are

> other IgA food allergies (yeast, casein, eggs, soy, being the ones

> now talked about). IgG allergies can cause gut issues too, but

> I haven't heard as much scientifically about them..

> IgE allergies tend to cause skin and breathing problems.

>

> Most folks I've heard from that get tested for IgG or IgA

> allergies, the avoid those foods, do a LOT better. It's hard

> to get tested for IgA allergies, but it seems that a lot of

> folks that have IgA allergies have a matching IgG one.

>

> -- Heidi

[Guest guest]

>> IgE allergies tend to cause skin and breathing problems

>

>Speaking of which, my sister has a mysterious red rash on her face

>and down her neck, similar to when she found she was allergic to

>strawberries, but this time she can't figure out what it could be. It

>feels hot and a bit itchy.

They are hard to figure out. Keeping a food diary helps. The problem

is, sometimes the " allergy " happens up to a week after the exposure.

I also started having inflammation problems when I IMPROVED

my diet -- I think it was just that my immune system was starting

to function again and was hyperactive, no one food was involved.

I took a lot of VitB and C and it went away.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim,

I'm a bit late replying to this as I've been away. I've managed to eliminate

gall bladder attacks through:

** a series of liver flushes (once is not enough. the Hulda protocol is

one of the easiest, s Moritz is another one).

** changing my diet by virtually eliminating grains, increasing organic meats,

cream, butter, etc.

** taking a tablespoon of olive oil with a tablespoon of lemon juice in warm

water every morning.

Like Carma, I still have my gallstones but they don't have me. I've got over my

anxiety about not being able to flush out the calicified stones. Now I believe

they will stay almost silent as they are now, or even better, dissolve over

time. I still feel a tightness there at times but never get attacks anymore.

www.sensiblehealth.com is a good site as is the liver flush forum on

www.curezone.com

Best wishes to you,

Filippa

Re: Need help on Gall Stones

Dear Tim,

The alternative treatment for dissolving gall stones is a combination

of olive oil and apple cider vinegar every morning. I don't know the

amounts but maybe if you websearch some details will come up.

The best,

Bee