For the Record

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Adriel

I have been quiet up until now. You are the one with so much anger.

I have been on alternatives for years and continue to incorperate them with

my AP. I am a healer and I have many dear friends who are considered healers

in the field of alternatives. Unfortunately it is your inability to see the

need for both and your need to attack this group who is open nurturing and

supportive of all members.

Your anger only hurts you more and your rightiousness is self alienating

I belive you have what I have psoriatic Arthritis. I use AP and alternatives

to help control it an did for years before I was diagnosed. I have relief

from using it .

Ive used what is considerd alternative since the 60's and it has brought me

here. I never took antibiotics ever in my life and now I do because I have a

disease that will only get worse if I dont. In order for my body to get back

its control I use vitamins,herbs,diet , and AP

My doctors are a homeopath,herbalist, chirorpractor,acupuncturist,

rheumatologist and psychologist. I choose my health and I do it wisely....

June on

artist,psyhcologist, and horticulturist

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rheumatic for the record

> A.) I have studied medicine and healing for a good maount of years. I did

> read when people posted about AP treatment here and on other lists. I have

> also read many medical, psychological and healing text. So I am not just

> blowing smoke.

> B.) I have studied alternative medicines and eastern healing.

> C.) I am not delusional as my statements are based on ages of treating

> conditions with proper care (chinese medicine).

> D.) if you do not research this factor you do not have the full picture of

> what is going on in your existance.

> E.) it is commonly known in eastern medicine that any types of processed

> chemicals such as antibiotics are actually poisons to the body. They

poison

> energy path ways and can manifest later on in different ways.

> F.) If it;s working for you now don't be naive in thinking it will always

> work and with out any problems. It just may but, with out all the info not

> to mnetion long term studies of ramifications there is no 'proof'

> G.) I;m glad if it gives people relief but, you ahve to be truly informeed

> and unless you view th body as a whle not just a colleciton of organs

> (western meds ignore any possibility of enegy pathways, yes I ahve seen

> proof of their existance

> H.) As far as 'educating' people it is comon for most people to not be

aware

> of these factors so I am glad to share such info if you don't want to hear

> it because it upsets your decision the delete key was there.

> I.) I read through digests and saw that some said I didn't know what iw as

> tlakign about and just voicing opinion well isn't stating that I do not

know

> what I am talking about making an assumption on opinion?

> J.) I'm sorry if my post upset people but, the truth sometimes is rough to

> handle. western medicine is not perfect, anti biotics ar enot a miracle

> drug. They are functional treatments. The opinions and findings of western

> medical doctors although they beleive to be in depth research do not deal

> with a whole part of the system. Therefore, it is an incomplete science.

>

> Now if you do not agree with these things I've said then dispute them in

> with contradicting facts based on full research involving these other

> factors. Do not attack my character. All you do is show your own lack of

> character. The people who commented this way know who I am talking about.

> -Adriel

>

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> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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[Guest guest]

See I have no anger. The only anger I had was when I was attacked.

I;m glad it;s working for you that's great. I still don;t agree with it. My

choice. I:m not a tlal angry tho. As far as my attitude to the list it was

friendly in previous posts it wqas when I felt i was attacked that I

attacked back> Seem to em otehr s are angry.

-Adriel

> From: psy333che@...

> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 06:10:39 EDT

> azure@...

> Cc: rheumaticegroups

> Subject: Re: rheumatic for the record

>

> Adriel

> I have been quiet up until now. You are the one with so much anger.

> I have been on alternatives for years and continue to incorperate them with

> my AP. I am a healer and I have many dear friends who are considered healers

> in the field of alternatives. Unfortunately it is your inability to see the

> need for both and your need to attack this group who is open nurturing and

> supportive of all members.

> Your anger only hurts you more and your rightiousness is self alienating

> I belive you have what I have psoriatic Arthritis. I use AP and alternatives

> to help control it an did for years before I was diagnosed. I have relief

> from using it .

> Ive used what is considerd alternative since the 60's and it has brought me

> here. I never took antibiotics ever in my life and now I do because I have a

> disease that will only get worse if I dont. In order for my body to get back

> its control I use vitamins,herbs,diet , and AP

> My doctors are a homeopath,herbalist, chirorpractor,acupuncturist,

> rheumatologist and psychologist. I choose my health and I do it wisely....

> June on

> artist,psyhcologist, and horticulturist

>

>

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just thought I ought to mention that I have been lurking on this list long

enough to notice a pattern.

When someone posts something directly challenging Dear 'ol Masterjohn, the list

is suddenly hit with a " Tittles " type graphic post, and then the subject

line and even content of that post is repeated endlessly by the young master,

and his buddies.

Me thinks its Time for a female moderator.

Regards,

Ring Around the Moon, a phrase out of a children's book

[Guest guest]

>

> I just thought I ought to mention that I have been lurking

> on this list long enough to notice a pattern.

>

> When someone posts something directly challenging Dear 'ol

> Masterjohn, the list is suddenly hit with a " Tittles "

> type graphic post, and then the subject line and even content

> of that post is repeated endlessly by the young master, and

> his buddies.

Your pattern-recognition ability leaves much to be desired.

> Me thinks its Time for a female moderator.

What an incredibly sexist insinuation - that all females are

prudes! Just because _you're_ sexually repressed and without

any sense of humor, doesn't mean that all women are. I'm not

a Christian, Muslim or a religious Jew, so why should I defer

to _your_ religious sexual taboos? You people are no longer

able to burn at the stake those of us who don't share your

beliefs about sex, and you certainly can't censor us here.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/12/03 6:19:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

liberty@... writes:

> What an incredibly sexist insinuation - that all females are

> prudes! Just because _you're_ sexually repressed and without

> any sense of humor, doesn't mean that all women are. I'm not

> a Christian, Muslim or a religious Jew, so why should I defer

> to _your_ religious sexual taboos? You people are no longer

> able to burn at the stake those of us who don't share your

> beliefs about sex, and you certainly can't censor us here.

>

I forgot to mention this in my last post. While I do want to move on from

this subject, I do find this form of sexism she continually expresses very

irritating. In the last attack she made on my character, she defined what

" girls "

want out of relationships, and claimed that girls do not have sex for its own

sake. This is of course entirely ridiculous, and I know quite a few girls

that would be very, very, insulted at this form of sexism, which is a myth that

supports the sexual double standard that women are finally breaking free from

in my generation.

Chris

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/13/03 12:09:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bberg@... writes:

> Didn't they break free from it back in the '60s?

I thought so, but I was informed by someone a couple generations older than

me that the double standard continued for a while.

Chris

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: <ChrisMasterjohn@...>

> This is of course entirely ridiculous, and I know quite a few girls

> that would be very, very, insulted at this form of sexism, which is a

myth that

> supports the sexual double standard that women are finally breaking

free from

> in my generation.

Didn't they break free from it back in the '60s?

[Guest guest]

>> Me thinks its Time for a female moderator.

>

>What an incredibly sexist insinuation - that all females are

>prudes! Just because _you're_ sexually repressed and without

>any sense of humor, doesn't mean that all women are. I'm not

>a Christian, Muslim or a religious Jew, so why should I defer

>to _your_ religious sexual taboos? You people are no longer

>able to burn at the stake those of us who don't share your

>beliefs about sex, and you certainly can't censor us here.

>

>

Well, I'm not any of the above either, but from a purely LOGICAL

view ... have you noticed that ALL of these ads are aimed at guys?

Not that this is an issue in my mind as to the gender of the moderator,

but really, I am INSULTED, INSULTED I tell you, that not ONE spam

I have recieved is geared to appeals to females. Well, my www.cooking.com

might, but I subscribed to that so it doesn't count as spam.

What amazes me is: someone must be " biting " to these ads or

they would die out. And it just can't be mostly ladies.

I'm as feminist as they come, really, but the idea that women and men

are identical died somewhere in the 70's. It doesn't take a lot of

research to figure that out (look at hormone levels and DNA, for a

start). But I don't think the idea that " we need a female moderator "

was meant as " all females are prudes " . The whole post seems pretty

much in jest (I don't think is posing as either -- actually

*I* am , in my alter-ego personality where I work for Haliburton

in an extra money-making scheme (if you believe that I have a great

bridge I want to sell you).

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Yeah, we did!

--- In , " Berg " <bberg@c...>

wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <ChrisMasterjohn@a...>

> > This is of course entirely ridiculous, and I know quite a few

girls

> > that would be very, very, insulted at this form of sexism, which

is a

> myth that

> > supports the sexual double standard that women are finally

breaking

> free from

> > in my generation.

>

> Didn't they break free from it back in the '60s?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/03 12:41:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

heidis@... writes:

> I'm as feminist as they come, really, but the idea that women and men

> are identical died somewhere in the 70's. It doesn't take a lot of

> research to figure that out (look at hormone levels and DNA, for a

> start). But I don't think the idea that " we need a female moderator "

> was meant as " all females are prudes " .

Heidi,

I agree that the porn market is dominated by men (thought *definitely* NOT

only by men) but the ideas that Ring seems to be tying together such as casual

sex and perhaps even oral sex being the domain of men rather than women, are

both sexist and false. I'm sure no one on this list is biting for

Titties, and clearly the sex of the moderator has no relation to their ability

or

motivation to keep out spam.

Chris

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, there are Chip 'n Dales clubs, etc.

I think you probably meant " Chippendales " clubs

unless you're actually talking about strippers for lady

chipmunks. In which case I'm sure the " girls " are far

more interested in the dancers' nuts than anything else.

Although I'm sure such a club would be a good place to

go if you're just looking for a little tail.

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: <ChrisMasterjohn@...>

> I agree that the porn market is dominated by men (thought *definitely*

NOT

> only by men) but the ideas that Ring seems to be tying together such

as casual

> sex and perhaps even oral sex being the domain of men rather than

women, are

> both sexist and false.

Not to mention illogical. Vertically or otherwise, it takes two to

tango.

[Guest guest]

Heidi, Heidi, Heidi....you are great. You always make lemonade with

lemons!

Del

>

> >I'm sure no one on this list is biting for

> >Titties, and clearly the sex of the moderator has no relation to

their ability or

> >motivation to keep out spam.

> >

> >Chris

>

> Oh, I agree and certainly I don't think YOU are (though

> if it was meant in a joking sense it could be humorous).

> I don't think those kinds of " activities " are the sole

> domain of men either ... I've just never met a woman

> who would *pay* to see a man naked (though we

> do seem to pay for " romance novels " a lot).

>

> -- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Oh, I agree and certainly I don't think YOU are (though

if it was meant in a joking sense it could be humorous).

I don't think those kinds of " activities " are the sole

domain of men either ... I've just never met a woman

who would *pay* to see a man naked (though we

do seem to pay for " romance novels " a lot).

-- Heidi

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Don't you have the mags for women over there with the sealed section of naked

men? Cleo or Cosmopolitan or something. It's the sealed sections that sell

them! I've also heard of porn sites for women - admittedly far far less than

those for men (but hey, women look at the men's sites too). Sure there's a

hormonal difference, but there's also a cultural difference. I agree with Chris

that each generation breaks more and more barriers in this regard. Friday

did a lot in the seventies to show that women have sexual fantasies and

appetites too (as shown in her 3 volumes of collected women's fantasies). We're

finally breaking out of that " good girls don't " crap.

Filippa

ps. got a bit stuck with what I should change the subject line too. I

contemplate something like " naked men " or " women's fantasies " but then I decided

that it might just be mistaken for spam. So 'For the Record' it stays! ;-)

[Guest guest]

Dearest ,

Thank you for your displayed appreciation of the site and quizzes.

You will do well because you have prepared well. You have left no

stone unturned! And that determination alone is what will lead you

to triumph! Please keep me/all of us informed on how well you think

you did and how well you actually did. More importantly how your

career as a pharm tech takes off and progresses.

Now regarding the hoods I believe what Dora and others posted will

be enough to get you through the exam questions. However when your

brain is back to normal (post test syndrome = mush for brains for

about 1 - 2 weeks, wanting nothing to do with pharmacy study) you

may want to take a look at the " files " section

under: " Tutorials, then under:

1. " Tutorial - Aseptic Technique - Gloves.doc "

Gloves and hands, and more! 55 KB posted by rxjm2002 11/16/2003

2. " Tutorial - Aseptic Technique.doc "

Hand washing/scrubing, supply gathering and more! 227 KB posted by

rxjm2002 11/16/2003

3. " Tutorial - Flow Hoods.doc "

What Flow hoods are and how to clean them 119 KB posted by

rxjm2002 11/16/2003

Go to:

Files > Tutorials - 1 > Tutorial - Aseptic Technique 1 8196 Kb used

of 20480 Kb total

There you will find in the third tutorial called " Tutorial - Flow

Hoods.doc " , great photos and drawings and also some sites that are

about aseptic technique and hoods. You will benefit from this

tutorial as there is more than just basic information in it, if you

plan to work in hospital or with IV's

In the meantime know that you ARE well prepared! you will do just

fine!

Respectfully,

With love,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem

Pharm Tech Educator

> I have read most of the tutorials, and taken most the practice

> exams. I havent seen anything on hoods, so its my mistake to have

> skipped over that file... Thank you for the help though, it was

much

> appreciated.