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In a message dated 12/10/03 7:11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dovedesignsrus@... writes:

> Do you have hemorrhoids?

Nope, no other bowel symptoms. I have some gut issues, and get rumbling and

flatulence sometimes, I've been fighting with them for a while.

Chris

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>Nope, no other bowel symptoms. I have some gut issues, and get rumbling and

>flatulence sometimes, I've been fighting with them for a while.

>

>Chris

OK, not to sound like a broken record here, but that's

what I get when I eat wheat or casein. IgA allergies cause

rumbling and often bleeding. Do you keep a food diary? Is

anything changed?

The blood and gas in the case of an IgA allergy is basically

due to undigested food, which could also be from

lack of enzymes etc. From experience and what I've read,

the undigested food is really irritating and very commonly

causes bleeding (possibly because of bacterial growth

ala SCD).

Bleeding CAN be a sign of polyps or cancer, and is a good

reason to have an exam. Or it can be allergies or hemmorhoids,

or a fissure.

-- Heidi

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In a message dated 12/11/03 2:52:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

heidis@... writes:

> OK, not to sound like a broken record here, but that's

> what I get when I eat wheat or casein. IgA allergies cause

> rumbling and often bleeding. Do you keep a food diary? Is

> anything changed?

>

> The blood and gas in the case of an IgA allergy is basically

> due to undigested food, which could also be from

> lack of enzymes etc. From experience and what I've read,

> the undigested food is really irritating and very commonly

> causes bleeding (possibly because of bacterial growth

> ala SCD).

>

> Bleeding CAN be a sign of polyps or cancer, and is a good

> reason to have an exam. Or it can be allergies or hemmorhoids,

> or a fissure.

Hi Heidi,

If I had hemmorhoids or a fissure I'd have pain in the area or soreness,

right? I don't. I think I get rumbling/farting more when I drink milk, which

sucks, because milk has been very helpful and is very valuable to me. I've

noticed wierd things though like sometimes I'll get it in response to potatoes,

but

only on days I don't drink milk, etc. I think it might have to do with

overloading my digestive system and maybe I should space milk out from other

foods,

which I did last night, and got MUCH less of the symptoms (could be

coincidence too).

I've noticed, very casually, that I haven't been eating beef as much since

it's been getting worse, so I think these digestive issues are due to a severe

zinc deficiency (I think, but still haven't gotten tested, that I have

pyroluria), which is worse when I don't have as much beef.

I guess I should monitor my stool for a couple days and see how it goes?

Should probably start a food diary too. So much writing! ;-)

Chris

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>Hi Heidi,

>

>If I had hemmorhoids or a fissure I'd have pain in the area or soreness,

>right? I don't.

You may or may not have pain with those. I didn't, but the bleeding

caused me to get " scoped " just in case.

> I think I get rumbling/farting more when I drink milk, which

>sucks, because milk has been very helpful and is very valuable to me. I've

>noticed wierd things though like sometimes I'll get it in response to potatoes,

but

>only on days I don't drink milk, etc. I think it might have to do with

>overloading my digestive system and maybe I should space milk out from other

foods,

>which I did last night, and got MUCH less of the symptoms (could be

>coincidence too).

I THINK a lot of it has to do with undigested food ... IgA reactions cause food

not to get digested fully, which causes bacterial overgrowth and " toxic waste "

(heh heh).

which is so irritating that it seems to reliably cause bleeding in a number of

folks

I've talked to. But there could be a lot of reasons for the undigested food.

I react to milk, but not kefir, so you might try substituing kefir smoothies

for milk and see what happens.

>I've noticed, very casually, that I haven't been eating beef as much since

>it's been getting worse, so I think these digestive issues are due to a severe

>zinc deficiency (I think, but still haven't gotten tested, that I have

>pyroluria), which is worse when I don't have as much beef.

I sure feel better when I have good beef. I think we really are

designed for red meat! " Beef: it's what's for dinner " .

>I guess I should monitor my stool for a couple days and see how it goes?

>Should probably start a food diary too. So much writing! ;-)

A diary is a lot easier to keep on a computer. If you use a spreadsheet you can

keep your usual foods on a page and use cut and paste.

-- Heidi

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Message: 16

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:12:14 EST

From: ChrisMasterjohn@...

Subject: blood in stool (?)

I just had a bowel movement, otherwise normal, and randomly took a look at

it, and noticed a couple red streaks. It was a somewhat bright red-- I'd expect

blood to be a little darker, but then again, the color of blood depends on a

lot of things. One non-blood possibility is a food coloring. I've been using

an undenatured whey protein supplement which has some sort of red coloring

that I think is annato that sometimes appears in the drink (its supposed to

blend with other stuff into a yellow), that *could* be it. There was no blood

on

the toilet paper, and the stool was otherwise high-quality in regards to

firmness, sinkage, etc.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the liklihood this was blood, and if so, the

immediacy of the problem?

Chris

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Please excuse me if this has already been answered as I just got back from

vacation and I'm trying to read some of the digests.

When my DH had an ulcer, the blood in his stool was always very dark, much like

when you take Pepto Bismol.

If you have been eating BEETS, that could explain RED particles in your stool.

Beets are somewhat like corn in that they sometimes pass right thru.

Carol K

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