Re: liver desease, and kidney failure

[Guest guest]

Often times end stage liver disease includes kidney failure. Like diabeties it

can be something that happens in the process of the liver disease as the body

fails.

I could not speak to what you can do. A hepatologist and kidney doc would know

more.

Bless you, I know this is hard.

Pamela

liver desease, and kidney failure

this is my second message....has anyone delt with a person that had

both kidney failure, and end stages of cirrhosis ??? If so what can we

do??? ....can we prolong this life???

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janet. My name is Bobby. I have end stage liver disease. My best friend in

the whole world Ardis Lorraine died from it last August 3rd, at 1:00am

sharp. The angels came for her. Based on what I learned from that I can only

advise you from that perspective. We told at a very late stage that she could

not recieve a liver transplant. My wife and I were her medical proxy. We asked

for hospice to take over. From then on , it was important to give her anything

she wanted. She made me a list. Cinnabon, beer, a vodka tonic, warm french bread

with butter. Mostly she wanted some beer, and we got it for her. She wanted to

eat good food, and we took her , wheelchair and all to out favorite restaurant.

She was brave. She told me a few days before her death that she was afraid, but

when it came down to brass tacks, she was a real trooper, and faced the end head

on, and saw it coming, and didnt blink. She was in a lot of pain, and the

hospice nurses made

sure they fought that pain with all of their weapons. The only thing in

retrospect, is that I regret not having an IV that we could have used to get

pain drugs into her system faster. For me, I now realize that death is not the

ultimate enemy, pain and suffering is.

Her entire story can be read here,

http://robertwalkingeagle.googlepages.com/home

but don't be mad, it's long. The short version is this, your friend will almost

certainly die very soon. I am so sorry. Unless he was already evaluated for a

transplant, and is a candidate, or there is some way for him to get a

transplant, hepatorenal is a very late stage. My heart goes out to you. I hope

you are able to make his death special.( that sounds awful, but I know that we

made Ardis' death special, and I made a hell of a difference in how we feel

about the matter today.)

Bobby http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/

liver desease, and kidney failure

this is my second message....has anyone delt with a person that had

both kidney failure, and end stages of cirrhosis ??? If so what can we

do??? ....can we prolong this life???

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Bobby,

I think one of the gifts God gave you was putting things into perspective.

I hope you had a good Christmas. You and Sharon are always in my thoughts.

MaC

Bob Aragon wrote: Hi,

Janet. My name is Bobby. I have end stage liver disease. My best friend in the

whole world Ardis Lorraine died from it last August 3rd, at 1:00am sharp.

The angels came for her. Based on what I learned from that I can only advise you

from that perspective. We told at a very late stage that she could not recieve

a liver transplant. My wife and I were her medical proxy. We asked for hospice

to take over. From then on , it was important to give her anything she wanted.

She made me a list. Cinnabon, beer, a vodka tonic, warm french bread with

butter. Mostly she wanted some beer, and we got it for her. She wanted to eat

good food, and we took her , wheelchair and all to out favorite restaurant. She

was brave. She told me a few days before her death that she was afraid, but when

it came down to brass tacks, she was a real trooper, and faced the end head on,

and saw it coming, and didnt blink.

She was in a lot of pain, and the hospice nurses made

sure they fought that pain with all of their weapons. The only thing in

retrospect, is that I regret not having an IV that we could have used to get

pain drugs into her system faster. For me, I now realize that death is not the

ultimate enemy, pain and suffering is.

Her entire story can be read here,

http://robertwalkingeagle.googlepages.com/home

but don't be mad, it's long. The short version is this, your friend will almost

certainly die very soon. I am so sorry. Unless he was already evaluated for a

transplant, and is a candidate, or there is some way for him to get a

transplant, hepatorenal is a very late stage. My heart goes out to you. I hope

you are able to make his death special.( that sounds awful, but I know that we

made Ardis' death special, and I made a hell of a difference in how we feel

about the matter today.)

Bobby http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/

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