Re: Stainless steel thermos

[Guest guest]

We use them and love them. I put my water into glass bottles/jars too.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

>

> I saw an adver. in one of those shopping catalogs for a small

stainless steel thermos. I don't like drinking water in the plastic

ones, so I was wondering if anyone knows if this would be better?

>

> Jafa

I think stainless steel thermoses are great! I have a nice little

collection I use for different purposes. I like to bring warm

drinks with me, and I often let my infusions steep for a few hours in

a thermos. I prefer room-temp or warm drinks, and even for plain

water a thermos allows this. I've bought my thermoses from kitchen

stores mainly, the Trudeau and Nissan brands I believe. There's a

nice range of sizes available, and they can be quite pleasing to the

eye, more socially acceptable than mason jars! (Of course I use

mason jars heavily too; I think my whole life revolves around mason

jars actually.)

I would certainly avoid drinking (or eating) anything out of plastic.

Mike

[Guest guest]

I've never read anything about stainless steel being harmful or

unsuitable for food uses, but yesterday I watched Dr. Levy's video on

http://www.megac.org/ and he parenthetically mentioned that nickel is

a very toxic metal and it is commonly used in stainless steel alloys.

Now, I have little chemistry background and I have no idea whether a

component of an alloy can leach out of the alloy and into food alone,

but it's piqued my interest so I'm going to look into it.

Sometimes it seems like everything modern is harmful to our health, haha.

Tom

In , " Anton " <bwp@u...>

wrote:

>

> >

> > I saw an adver. in one of those shopping catalogs for a small

> stainless steel thermos. I don't like drinking water in the plastic

> ones, so I was wondering if anyone knows if this would be better?

> >

> > Jafa

>

> I think stainless steel thermoses are great! I have a nice little

> collection I use for different purposes. I like to bring warm

> drinks with me, and I often let my infusions steep for a few hours in

> a thermos. I prefer room-temp or warm drinks, and even for plain

> water a thermos allows this. I've bought my thermoses from kitchen

> stores mainly, the Trudeau and Nissan brands I believe. There's a

> nice range of sizes available, and they can be quite pleasing to the

> eye, more socially acceptable than mason jars! (Of course I use

> mason jars heavily too; I think my whole life revolves around mason

> jars actually.)

>

> I would certainly avoid drinking (or eating) anything out of plastic.

>

> Mike

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, ... I have a gas stove. Glad I bought cast

iron recently and have been cooking with that. I concluded that the

concerns about cast iron, properly seasoned, don't really amount to much.

Tom

> Tom-

>

> My grandfather, who was an organic chemist, warned against using

stainless

> steel cookware on gas stoves; he said the combination would give off

nickel

> carbonyl gas, a potent carcinogen. It's also probably not a good

idea to

> cook or store acidic foods or liquids in stainless steel.

>

> >Now, I have little chemistry background and I have no idea whether a

> >component of an alloy can leach out of the alloy and into food alone,

> >but it's piqued my interest so I'm going to look into it.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I recently bought a set of Saladmaster cookware to replace my very

good expensive waterless stainless steel cookware. The reason I did

it was the test that was done in my kitchen with my own pots and

pans. This test showed that unwanted metal taste does seep into the

food from my cookware! I was amazed! They also did the test on my

enamel 16 quart stock pot and the taste was what I believe to be the

taste of lead! I was told by the saladmaster salesman that lead is

used in the making of enamel cookware! Lead is also used in the

making of glass cookware. I never knew this! I can certainly tell the

difference in the way my food taste in this cookware. The reason is

the solid non-porous surgical stain-less steel. They have all rights

to it so you won't find it anywhere else. It has a number that is

printed on all the cookware it is TP304-316. Made in Arlinton, Tx

since 1951. I also have been using stainless steel thermos but I am

changing to glass in light of this new information.

Del

--- In , Idol <Idol@c...>

wrote:

> Jafa-

>

> All else being equal I'd prefer glass or a good ceramic or enamel,

but yes,

> on the absolute scale of things, a good stainless steel should be

an

> excellent container for water.

>

> >So, I take it that storing water in stainless steel for the day

would be

> >alright and definitely better than those plastic bottles?

>

>

>

> -

[Guest guest]

> I recently bought a set of Saladmaster cookware to replace my very

> good expensive waterless stainless steel cookware.

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hi Delano,

very interesting. maybe they have a superior product, but

unfortunately their website is a big turn-off, very skimpy on

information and filled with marketing mumbo-jumbo about changing

people's lives, etc. if i was selling a superior product, i'd be

generous with the facts and sparing with sloppy rhetoric. the sales

techniques you describe sound pretty suspicious. the whole idea

of " selling " in the modern sense makes me want to puke, and would be

unnecessary if manufacturers and distributors were all honest and

ethical.

by the way, this company only offers small pots, no stockpots. i

can't see any need for small pots to do more than brief cooking, not

the long, slow cooking of large containers of stock, soup, tea, etc.

i'm certainly not going to worry about metal leeching during 5 or 10

minutes of cooking. my entire cooking system consists of two pots, a

one-quart saucepan and a 12-quart stockpot, both of which are used

heavily without any need for other cooking equipment at all.

mike parker

[Guest guest]

Mike, I understand your suspicion and I would be too if the shoe was

on the other foot. I can only tell you my experience. I agree that

they have a terrible web site and I complained about it. I also agree

that if they have a superior product that they should want to

tell/show it and sales tactics leave a lot to be desired!! My

salesman is in the process of writing a book on the different kinds

of cookware. It was very interesting. This was the best demo I have

ever seen! I am a hard sell, not a push over. My decision was not

based on the sales tactics though but on the cookware itself and the

test that was done to prove the taste of metals gets into the food!

Saladmaster does have stockpots. I am using the 12 qt one now, making

stock. It operates like a dream. Has 2 long removeable handles so

that I can pick it up easy and move it when it is full. Has a little

valve on the top to alert me when it is ready to turn down to low and

simmer. No seam construction. No drip when you pour. 7 layers of

construction. I can cook veggies with no water to perfection, add

butter at the table (I avoid heating butter as much as possible).

They thought of everything! I can say that because I have cooked on

everything except aluminum for 40 years! If you are anyone here can,

try to find a salesman and see a demo.

Del

> > I recently bought a set of Saladmaster cookware to replace my

very

> > good expensive waterless stainless steel cookware.

> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

>

> hi Delano,

>

> very interesting. maybe they have a superior product, but

> unfortunately their website is a big turn-off, very skimpy on

> information and filled with marketing mumbo-jumbo about changing

> people's lives, etc. if i was selling a superior product, i'd be

> generous with the facts and sparing with sloppy rhetoric. the sales

> techniques you describe sound pretty suspicious. the whole idea

> of " selling " in the modern sense makes me want to puke, and would

be

> unnecessary if manufacturers and distributors were all honest and

> ethical.

>

> by the way, this company only offers small pots, no stockpots. i

> can't see any need for small pots to do more than brief cooking,

not

> the long, slow cooking of large containers of stock, soup, tea,

etc.

> i'm certainly not going to worry about metal leeching during 5 or

10

> minutes of cooking. my entire cooking system consists of two pots,

a

> one-quart saucepan and a 12-quart stockpot, both of which are used

> heavily without any need for other cooking equipment at all.

>

> mike parker

[Guest guest]

That sounds like the misleading exaggeration of a salesman (surprise),

at least about glass containing lead.

Pyrex does not appear to have a website, but I found several sites

that discussed the main types of glass, and they confirmed my hunch:

lead crystal, used for fine crystal glassware, contains lead but

neither conventional glassware nor Pyrex cookware contain lead. The

site below does say that lead glass is the second most common

commercial glass, but this could refer to many other applications

besides glassware for food (e.g., windows).

http://www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/downloads/glass.pdf

Tom

> > Jafa-

> >

> > All else being equal I'd prefer glass or a good ceramic or enamel,

> but yes,

> > on the absolute scale of things, a good stainless steel should be

> an

> > excellent container for water.

> >

> > >So, I take it that storing water in stainless steel for the day

> would be

> > >alright and definitely better than those plastic bottles?

> >

> >

> >

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