Re: rosacea

May 4, 2005

Marcia

This may not be relevant in your client's case but sometimes acne rosacea

may have a digestive

element - this certainly seemed to be true with a recent patient whose case

history revealed a hiatus hernia. Mix includes Berb. aq., Arctium lappa,

Filip ulm., Althaea and Trifolium pratense and is so far helping.

I'm about to include Acorus calamus in the mix. Also has Calendula and

Mentha pip tea.

Another person did not respond to anything, but copious amounts of Hemp Seed

Oil cream regularly for over a year have made a big difference.

Hope this helps - hope you're keeping well too.

Liz X

rosacea

>

> Hi all,

> I have a new client coming in soon who's main complaint is acne rosacea.

It

> is long standing and he has had both topical and oral antibiotic treatment

> for this which has been successful, however, now he would like to try

> alternative medicine. The only info I have on this condition, is that it

is

> an inflammatory disease and they treat it with antibiotics. I would

assume

> that a pt like this would probably benefit from EFA's and other immune

> boosting and antiinflammatory herbs.

> Any feedback and tips on favorite herbs welcome from those of you who have

> had success treating this would be much appreciated.

>

> Regards,

> Marcia

>

> List Owner

>

> Graham White, MNIMH

>

May 4, 2005

Mmm, and the traditional advice is to avoid spicy foods, as these

generally have an exascerbating effect

Sally Owen

> Marcia

>

> This may not be relevant in your client's case but sometimes acne

> rosacea

> may have a digestive

> element - this certainly seemed to be true with a recent patient

> whose case

> history revealed a hiatus hernia. Mix includes Berb. aq., Arctium

> lappa,

> Filip ulm., Althaea and Trifolium pratense and is so far helping.

> I'm about to include Acorus calamus in the mix. Also has Calendula

> and

> Mentha pip tea.

>

> Another person did not respond to anything, but copious amounts of

> Hemp Seed

> Oil cream regularly for over a year have made a big difference.

>

> Hope this helps - hope you're keeping well too.

>

> Liz X

> rosacea

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I have a new client coming in soon who's main complaint is acne

> rosacea.

> It

> > is long standing and he has had both topical and oral antibiotic

> treatment

> > for this which has been successful, however, now he would like to

> try

> > alternative medicine. The only info I have on this condition, is

> that it

> is

> > an inflammatory disease and they treat it with antibiotics. I would

> assume

> > that a pt like this would probably benefit from EFA's and other

> immune

> > boosting and antiinflammatory herbs.

> > Any feedback and tips on favorite herbs welcome from those of you

> who have

> > had success treating this would be much appreciated.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Marcia

> >

> > List Owner

> >

> > Graham White, MNIMH

> >

May 4, 2005

Hi Marcia,

there is plenty info in archives, but I found

Vaccinium and Aesculus in the mix bring very quick

results plus a cooling cream - with 1-2 drops of

peppermint EO. Some of my patients that have used

antibiotics for years had extremely dry skin but also

their skin had a different " structure " - a bit similar

to the skin damaged by longterm use of topical

steroids. In these patients I found that calendula

cream did wonders.

Hope it helps

--- Marcia Dixon wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi all,

I have a new client coming in soon who's main

complaint is acne rosacea. It

is long standing and he has had both topical and oral

antibiotic treatment

for this which has been successful, however, now he

would like to try

alternative medicine. The only info I have on this

condition, is that it is

an inflammatory disease and they treat it with

antibiotics. I would assume

that a pt like this would probably benefit from EFA's

and other immune

boosting and antiinflammatory herbs.

Any feedback and tips on favorite herbs welcome from

those of you who have

had success treating this would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Marcia

List Owner

Graham White, MNIMH

---------------------------------

May 4, 2005

" Marcia Dixon " wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> I have a new client coming in soon who's main complaint is acne

rosacea.> Any feedback and tips on favorite herbs welcome from those

of you who have

> had success treating this would be much appreciated.

>

> Regards,

> Marcia

Hi Marcia-

Found this interesting connection:

" East Mediterr Health J. 2003 Jan-Mar;9(1-2):167-71. Related

Articles, Links

Helicobacter pylori and rosacea.

Zandi S, Shamsadini S, Zahedi MJ, Hyatbaksh M.

Department of Dermatology, Kerman Medical School, Kerman, Islamic

Republic of Iran.

Recent reports have suggested an increased prevalence of

Helicobacter pylori infection in patients with rosacea, with some

evidence of dermatological improvement in patients treated with

antibiotics for this infection. Our study investigates the

prevalence of H. pylori infection in rosacea patients in Kerman.

Serological examination was done for 29 patients with classical

identification of rosacea using the enzyme-linked immunosorbent

assay IgG antibody method. Comparison of antibody titres with those

of a control group revealed that the prevalence of positive

serological tests for H. pylori was significantly higher in the test

group. This supports the suggestion of some form of relationship

between rosacea and H. pylori infection, though further

investigations with larger sample sizes are required for a definite

conclusion. "

May have nothing to do with your pt. but you never know- xxoo

Vermont USA

May 9, 2005

Hi...was interested to see all the feedback on cea...I have a new px

suffering quite badly...she's just stopped using an antibiotic cream and wants

an alternative (in addition to internal treatment) - I've tried her with rose

and chamomile, chamomile, chickweed creams and she's reacted to all of them -

flares up and is hot and sore.... I'm not sure how much is due to the creams,

but I'm a bit stumped. Am trying hemp oil cream next.... There's quite a good

website for sufferers which I found very informative too - www.rosacea.org - the

'coping' section is good. For my patient, it started with the onset of

menopause - she's very distressed about it as she's an anxious person and can't

wear makeup any more... She stopped the creams but still felt it flared and I'm

wondering if she reacted to the Calendula or Urtica in her mix....?

I'd be interested if you get anywhere with your patient, and will let you know

my progress!

cheers,

Isobel

Exeter

rosacea

Hi all,

I have a new client coming in soon who's main complaint is acne rosacea. It

is long standing and he has had both topical and oral antibiotic treatment

for this which has been successful, however, now he would like to try

alternative medicine. The only info I have on this condition, is that it is

an inflammatory disease and they treat it with antibiotics. I would assume

that a pt like this would probably benefit from EFA's and other immune

boosting and antiinflammatory herbs.

Any feedback and tips on favorite herbs welcome from those of you who have

had success treating this would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Marcia

List Owner

Graham White, MNIMH

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May 9, 2005

Dear Isobel

You might like to contact May at @... . is behind the

Yin Yang Skin Care range and has many many years experience in developing

creams for specific skin conditions.

Boys

rosacea

Hi all,

I have a new client coming in soon who's main complaint is acne rosacea. It

is long standing and he has had both topical and oral antibiotic treatment

for this which has been successful, however, now he would like to try

alternative medicine. The only info I have on this condition, is that it is

an inflammatory disease and they treat it with antibiotics. I would assume

that a pt like this would probably benefit from EFA's and other immune

boosting and antiinflammatory herbs.

Any feedback and tips on favorite herbs welcome from those of you who have

had success treating this would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Marcia

List Owner

Graham White, MNIMH

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May 9, 2005

it's probably the cream bases she's reacting to. how about using a wash of

infused herbs instead? or a face pack using oats, slippery elm and essential

oils? (helichrysum, carrot seed, rosewood I always use in any acne.) or

without the oils to start if she's very sensitive. or spray the face with

geranium AW. or plain hemp oil, not cream. or honey, which is also a good

carrier for EOs.

my last rosacea patient buggered off after a mega flare- up. she followed my

advice and drank lots of water (previously none) and it turned out she was

sensitive to chlorine in tap water - but by the time i'd worked that out I'd

lost her. now I specify filtered or plain bottled water...

nne

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nne Last BA MNIMH

Consultant Medical Herbalist

Chepstow Abergavenny and Monmouth

Tel: 01600 719497

www.mariannelast.co.uk

May 9, 2005

Hi Isobel,

My immediate reaction to this would be - don't use creams. Lots of

people just don't suit that medium of application. Don't just try

another one - go for an aromatic water based spray - maybe with a bit of

glycerine (not too much or it will gunk up the spray mechanism and look

oily on the face) or a herbal steam (only if very soothing herbs) or a

clay mask. Be experimental. If she really really insists on something

cream-based, don't use a base cream, make it yourself from scratch. If

that is also not possible, then at least go for a different brand of

base cream. Good luck.

Robyn

isobel wrote:

>Hi...was interested to see all the feedback on cea...I have a new px