Origional Sin

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This particular thread,

Seems to re-appear time & time again,

Original Sin seems to have been the scape-goat

for all kinds of self-loathing----

" Let the dead bury their dead " --Yet this dead-horse is being

dug up again and again----Why?

This is one of the reasons that I left the Church, the legacy of

the 'Church Fathers. " From St. , to St. Augustine, and to

Jerome and Tertullian.

St Augustine's harse doctrine paints a terrible picture of an

implacable God:

" Banished from paradise after his sin, Adam bound his offspring

also with the pentalty of death and damnation, that offspring which

by sinning he corrupted in himself, as a root; so that whatever the

progeny was born ( thru carnal conupiscence, by which a fitting

retrobution for his disobedience, was bestowed upon him )

from himself and his spouse---who was the cause of his sin and the

companion of his damnation-- would drag through the ages the burden

of Origional Sin, by which it would itself be dragged through manifold

errors and sorrows, down to that final and never-ending torment with the

rebel angels--- So the matter stood; the dammed lump of humanity was

lying prostrate, no, was wallowing in evil, it was falling headlong from one

wickedness to another; & joined to the faction of the angels who had sinned,

it was paying the most righteous penalty of its impious treason. "

Augustine left us with a difficult heritage, A religion which teaches men

and

women to regard their humanity as chronically flawed and can alienate them

from themselves. And nowhere is this aliienation more evident than in the

denigration of sexuality in general and women in particular.

Even though Christianity had origionally been quite positive for women, it

had

already developed a misognistic tenency in the West by the time of

Augustine.

The letters of Jerome teemed with loathing of the female which occasionally

sounds deranged. Tertullian had castigated women as evil temptresses, as an

eternal danger to mankind.

But this condition did not account for the degragation in India, concerning

the

Caste System, or the Untouchables, which Gandi gave so much to change.

Yet today in modern times, India is strong in technology, but a great

portion

of their humanity still lives in the 'Dark-Ages.'

And it dosnt account for the Modern Muslim Religion, where women are kept

in virtual slavery. So perhaps its time to wake-up and smell the Roses.

Regards

S.C.

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In a message dated 2/10/2000 4:46:42 PM Central Standard Time,

shadowcatcher@... writes:

<< This is one of the reasons that I left the Church, the legacy of

the 'Church Fathers. " From St. , to St. Augustine, and to

Jerome and Tertullian. >>

S.C.

You did absolutely the right thing. Any religion or sect which inhibits the

spiritual growth or individuation of a person should be abandoned. Maybe you

didn't need to hear this from me, but I just wanted to affirm your statement.

Gene Baker