Re: wow do I ever have to watch it!

[Guest guest]

Some things can be very frustrating, Bill. Just hang in there and keep going. You are doing great!

Jane

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jane, but the mind plays tricks on the body, thinking it's okay

to slack it when in fact the body needs to be pushed by the very same

mind, just goes to show it all starts in the mind and the result is in

the body. There must be something to avoid or stop self originating

sabatoge.

best regards Bill (signing out for tonight now)

>

> Some things can be very frustrating, Bill. Just hang in there and

keep

> going. You are doing great!

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Sometimes, Bill, things just don't work out the way we want. There

were too many distractions at the pool for you to get your usual swim

in yesterday, and you knew you were " ahead " at AOM, so you gave up

for the day. Don't beat yourself up about it; it happens to me

sometimes, and I'd guess it happens to others, too, from time to time.

You asked for suggestions to avoid falling into the " ahead on the

trail, so I'll slack off " trap. What keeps me from having too many

lazy days is the calendar log on the AOM page that shows how many

total steps and converted steps from activities other than walking

that we enter for each day. Every time I log an entry, I look at that

calendar. When I see that I have entered noticeably fewer steps today

than I did yesterday and the day before, for whatever legitimate

reason or because I made excuses all day for not exercising, I just

consider it a day off. Everybody deserves a day of rest now and

again, right? But if I have two of those days in a row, I give myself

a swift kick and allow myself no more " days off " for at least a week.

That gets me back on track.

From your previous posts, it's easy to see that you've been doing

great at keeping your motivation. Forget about yesterday - you'll do

better today.

karena

[Guest guest]

the public pools here mark the lanes with buoy ropes and mark them

slow, medium & fast, maybe you can make that suggestion to the pool

administrator. The gym pool is a bit more on the honor system, they

usually only suggest 2 to 3 people in each lane and ask people to swim

in the lane where people are doing the same type of swimming as them.

I can barely swim a lap, and I got mister olympic in my lane once, he

splashed so hard and nearly nailed me with his flailing arms. I gave

up and hit the hot tub too.

laurie

>

> I went to the pool in my usual fashion, arriving between 12 noon and

> 1:00 pm. I got started and the going was a bit slow, I was taking my

> time of course, my daily log at AOM shows I am ahead of my daily

> output on the and Trail (a water way trail of course).

>

> Since we are enjoying mid summer temperatures around 75f to 80f

> degrees, the pool got busy at the time I started to swim. I clocked

> 12:57 to 1:03pm and later logged six minutes at AOM. Just under one

> real mile. I then got fed up with the crazy swimmers, one man swims

> faster than all else and does it up and down the middle lane front

> crawl and does not watch where he is going and with whom I nearly a

> collision as I made my turn around. Then we had about three slow

> swimmers that required passing if I wanted to maintain a decent

> pace, and then we had the guys who can't swim a full length of the

> pool and walk around in the lanes creating obstacles for all the

> other swimmers.

>

> So I said that's enough for today, and headed for the hot whirl pool

> for 15 minutes.

>

> Anyone in this form that knows me, knows what happended last year at

> this time, I made a perfectly rational decision to cut my distance

> because of the heat. And I paid a huge price for that.

>

> Now I have room in my AOM counter to slow down and rather than

> dodging swimmers, I am dodging the distance and the clock. " Oh gosh

> no " . " did I do that " The rational though process was I am ahead at

> AOM and I can slack it.

>

> Wow do I ever have to watch it!

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> regards - Bill

>

[Guest guest]

I think it comes under the heading "choosing your battles" Some days it is better just to give over to Mr Olympic and live to fight another day. Peaceful thoughts have a value all their own.

W.

Re: wow do I ever have to watch it!

the public pools here mark the lanes with buoy ropes and mark themslow, medium & fast, maybe you can make that suggestion to the pooladministrator. The gym pool is a bit more on the honor system, theyusually only suggest 2 to 3 people in each lane and ask people to swimin the lane where people are doing the same type of swimming as them.I can barely swim a lap, and I got mister olympic in my lane once, hesplashed so hard and nearly nailed me with his flailing arms. I gaveup and hit the hot tub too. laurie>> I went to the pool in my usual fashion, arriving between 12 noon and > 1:00 pm. I got started and the going was a bit slow, I was taking my > time of course, my daily log at AOM shows I am ahead of my daily > output on the and Trail (a water way trail of course).> > Since we are enjoying mid summer temperatures around 75f to 80f > degrees, the pool got busy at the time I started to swim. I clocked > 12:57 to 1:03pm and later logged six minutes at AOM. Just under one > real mile. I then got fed up with the crazy swimmers, one man swims > faster than all else and does it up and down the middle lane front > crawl and does not watch where he is going and with whom I nearly a > collision as I made my turn around. Then we had about three slow > swimmers that required passing if I wanted to maintain a decent > pace, and then we had the guys who can't swim a full length of the > pool and walk around in the lanes creating obstacles for all the > other swimmers.> > So I said that's enough for today, and headed for the hot whirl pool > for 15 minutes.> > Anyone in this form that knows me, knows what happended last year at > this time, I made a perfectly rational decision to cut my distance > because of the heat. And I paid a huge price for that.> > Now I have room in my AOM counter to slow down and rather than > dodging swimmers, I am dodging the distance and the clock. "Oh gosh > no". "did I do that" The rational though process was I am ahead at > AOM and I can slack it.> > Wow do I ever have to watch it!> > Any suggestions?> > regards - Bill>

[Guest guest]

Thanks a, I did do better today, the same swimmers were there

but I persisted and slowed down untill I could pass them. I got 50

minutes logged, but there is a real tendency to slack it, with that

time I should be at 66 lengths of the pool, I am worried. Best

Regards - Bill

>

> Sometimes, Bill, things just don't work out the way we want. There

> were too many distractions at the pool for you to get your usual

swim

> in yesterday, and you knew you were " ahead " at AOM, so you gave up

> for the day. Don't beat yourself up about it; it happens to me

> sometimes, and I'd guess it happens to others, too, from time to

time.

>

> You asked for suggestions to avoid falling into the " ahead on the

> trail, so I'll slack off " trap. What keeps me from having too many

> lazy days is the calendar log on the AOM page that shows how many

> total steps and converted steps from activities other than walking

> that we enter for each day. Every time I log an entry, I look at

that

> calendar. When I see that I have entered noticeably fewer steps

today

> than I did yesterday and the day before, for whatever legitimate

> reason or because I made excuses all day for not exercising, I

just

> consider it a day off. Everybody deserves a day of rest now and

> again, right? But if I have two of those days in a row, I give

myself

> a swift kick and allow myself no more " days off " for at least a

week.

> That gets me back on track.

>

> From your previous posts, it's easy to see that you've been doing

> great at keeping your motivation. Forget about yesterday - you'll

do

> better today.

>

> karena

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Laurie, our pool also has 3 lanes for the same speeds. But

the fast lane gets clogged with medium swimmers when the that lane

is crowded resulting is chaos in the fast lane, if I did not pass

the slower swimmers I'd be in the pool doing my distance for two

hours when it's crowded. I am worried about falling off my momentum.

Best regards, Bill

> >

> > I went to the pool in my usual fashion, arriving between 12 noon

and

> > 1:00 pm. I got started and the going was a bit slow, I was

taking my

> > time of course, my daily log at AOM shows I am ahead of my daily

> > output on the and Trail (a water way trail of

course).

> >

> > Since we are enjoying mid summer temperatures around 75f to 80f

> > degrees, the pool got busy at the time I started to swim. I

clocked

> > 12:57 to 1:03pm and later logged six minutes at AOM. Just under

one

> > real mile. I then got fed up with the crazy swimmers, one man

swims

> > faster than all else and does it up and down the middle lane

front

> > crawl and does not watch where he is going and with whom I

nearly a

> > collision as I made my turn around. Then we had about three slow

> > swimmers that required passing if I wanted to maintain a decent

> > pace, and then we had the guys who can't swim a full length of

the

> > pool and walk around in the lanes creating obstacles for all the

> > other swimmers.

> >

> > So I said that's enough for today, and headed for the hot whirl

pool

> > for 15 minutes.

> >

> > Anyone in this form that knows me, knows what happended last

year at

> > this time, I made a perfectly rational decision to cut my

distance

> > because of the heat. And I paid a huge price for that.

> >

> > Now I have room in my AOM counter to slow down and rather than

> > dodging swimmers, I am dodging the distance and the clock. " Oh

gosh

> > no " . " did I do that " The rational though process was I am ahead

at

> > AOM and I can slack it.

> >

> > Wow do I ever have to watch it!

> >

> > Any suggestions?

> >

> > regards - Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , your right advice about " Mr. Olympic " is good. The thing

that burns me with the Mr. or Mrs. Olympic and they come in both

genders, is that they don't really know how to swim. The really good

swimmers hardly make a ripple in the water as they navigate the

lanes for an average of 30 to 60 minutes. The wind mill types with

flailing arms beat themselves out in a few lengths then hang onto

the wall and get in the way for those turning around at the ends of

the pool and intimidate the slower swimmers. Even though I am

defined as obese with my waist size, I swim a steady controlled long

distance swim taking a breath on every stroke, and I could swim for

hours like this if I had the time. Being fat is not a hindrance to

good swimming. Knowing how to swim effortless on top of the water

however is the real exercise and aerobic value. In my case the

problem is keeping up the momentum as the summer heat approaches.

Best regards Bill

> >

> > I went to the pool in my usual fashion, arriving between 12

noon and

> > 1:00 pm. I got started and the going was a bit slow, I was

taking my

> > time of course, my daily log at AOM shows I am ahead of my

daily

> > output on the and Trail (a water way trail of

course).

> >

> > Since we are enjoying mid summer temperatures around 75f to

80f

> > degrees, the pool got busy at the time I started to swim. I

clocked

> > 12:57 to 1:03pm and later logged six minutes at AOM. Just

under one

> > real mile. I then got fed up with the crazy swimmers, one man

swims

> > faster than all else and does it up and down the middle lane

front

> > crawl and does not watch where he is going and with whom I

nearly a

> > collision as I made my turn around. Then we had about three

slow

> > swimmers that required passing if I wanted to maintain a

decent

> > pace, and then we had the guys who can't swim a full length of

the

> > pool and walk around in the lanes creating obstacles for all

the

> > other swimmers.

> >

> > So I said that's enough for today, and headed for the hot

whirl pool

> > for 15 minutes.

> >

> > Anyone in this form that knows me, knows what happended last

year at

> > this time, I made a perfectly rational decision to cut my

distance

> > because of the heat. And I paid a huge price for that.

> >

> > Now I have room in my AOM counter to slow down and rather than

> > dodging swimmers, I am dodging the distance and the clock. " Oh

gosh

> > no " . " did I do that " The rational though process was I am

ahead at

> > AOM and I can slack it.

> >

> > Wow do I ever have to watch it!

> >

> > Any suggestions?

> >

> > regards - Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

sounds like to much to worry about just for the sake of getting your

excercise! no wonder it puts you off 'schedule', like when I would go

for a bike and get stuck biking behind someone smoking, nothing like

having an asthma attack while biking!

hey, if any of you ever come to portland, you'll notice people here

smoke while excercising, hiking & biking! it's crazy!

laurie

> > >

> > > I went to the pool in my usual fashion, arriving between 12 noon

> and

> > > 1:00 pm. I got started and the going was a bit slow, I was

> taking my

> > > time of course, my daily log at AOM shows I am ahead of my daily

> > > output on the and Trail (a water way trail of

> course).

> > >

> > > Since we are enjoying mid summer temperatures around 75f to 80f

> > > degrees, the pool got busy at the time I started to swim. I

> clocked

> > > 12:57 to 1:03pm and later logged six minutes at AOM. Just under

> one

> > > real mile. I then got fed up with the crazy swimmers, one man

> swims

> > > faster than all else and does it up and down the middle lane

> front

> > > crawl and does not watch where he is going and with whom I

> nearly a

> > > collision as I made my turn around. Then we had about three slow

> > > swimmers that required passing if I wanted to maintain a decent

> > > pace, and then we had the guys who can't swim a full length of

> the

> > > pool and walk around in the lanes creating obstacles for all the

> > > other swimmers.

> > >

> > > So I said that's enough for today, and headed for the hot whirl

> pool

> > > for 15 minutes.

> > >

> > > Anyone in this form that knows me, knows what happended last

> year at

> > > this time, I made a perfectly rational decision to cut my

> distance

> > > because of the heat. And I paid a huge price for that.

> > >

> > > Now I have room in my AOM counter to slow down and rather than

> > > dodging swimmers, I am dodging the distance and the clock. " Oh

> gosh

> > > no " . " did I do that " The rational though process was I am ahead

> at

> > > AOM and I can slack it.

> > >

> > > Wow do I ever have to watch it!

> > >

> > > Any suggestions?

> > >

> > > regards - Bill

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i'm so jealous of your swimming ability, i've never been able to time

my breathing so i could swim well, i go anaerobic so easily i end up

gasping and I cant tell which direction i'm going! i'm a pretty sucky

swimmer, ever after years of lessons. the nice thing about my being

fat is that I float now! floating is a novelty for me, my bones &

muscles were so dense when I was skinny, that i sank 2 inches under

the water while floating! it took so much effort for me to stay

afloat, that i just grabbed the kick board! now i can do a nice

leislurely back float with light arm work to keep my face above water.

laurie

>

> Hi , your right advice about " Mr. Olympic " is good. The thing

> that burns me with the Mr. or Mrs. Olympic and they come in both

> genders, is that they don't really know how to swim. The really good

> swimmers hardly make a ripple in the water as they navigate the

> lanes for an average of 30 to 60 minutes. The wind mill types with

> flailing arms beat themselves out in a few lengths then hang onto

> the wall and get in the way for those turning around at the ends of

> the pool and intimidate the slower swimmers. Even though I am

> defined as obese with my waist size, I swim a steady controlled long

> distance swim taking a breath on every stroke, and I could swim for

> hours like this if I had the time. Being fat is not a hindrance to

> good swimming. Knowing how to swim effortless on top of the water

> however is the real exercise and aerobic value. In my case the

> problem is keeping up the momentum as the summer heat approaches.

> Best regards Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

Know what you mean, Laurie. It is such a wonderful thing to float. Almost makes you want to stay fat :-).

One of my favorite things to do is get in my son's pool at night, all alone in the dark, and float and look up at the stars. All is right with the world, then.

W.

Re: wow do I ever have to watch it!

i'm so jealous of your swimming ability, i've never been able to timemy breathing so i could swim well, i go anaerobic so easily i end upgasping and I cant tell which direction i'm going! i'm a pretty suckyswimmer, ever after years of lessons. the nice thing about my beingfat is that I float now! floating is a novelty for me, my bones & muscles were so dense when I was skinny, that i sank 2 inches underthe water while floating! it took so much effort for me to stayafloat, that i just grabbed the kick board! now i can do a niceleislurely back float with light arm work to keep my face above water.laurie>> Hi , your right advice about "Mr. Olympic" is good. The thing > that burns me with the Mr. or Mrs. Olympic and they come in both > genders, is that they don't really know how to swim. The really good > swimmers hardly make a ripple in the water as they navigate the > lanes for an average of 30 to 60 minutes. The wind mill types with > flailing arms beat themselves out in a few lengths then hang onto > the wall and get in the way for those turning around at the ends of > the pool and intimidate the slower swimmers. Even though I am > defined as obese with my waist size, I swim a steady controlled long > distance swim taking a breath on every stroke, and I could swim for > hours like this if I had the time. Being fat is not a hindrance to > good swimming. Knowing how to swim effortless on top of the water > however is the real exercise and aerobic value. In my case the > problem is keeping up the momentum as the summer heat approaches. > Best regards Bill> >

[Guest guest]

I used to love it at Lake Tahoe. You were so high (no...not on drugs) you could almost catch a shooting star. It looked like diamonds on black velvet. There has been alot of development now, and then sky is kind of washed out compared to what it used to be. I invite anyone who hasn't taken the time to lay on their back and just look at the stars, to do it. Spend time with your children pointing out the Big Dipper and Little Dipper. It really is a special time.

Maggie

, I did this one night last year. It was almost midnight and Isaw a shooting star. It was so special. Loved it.

[Guest guest]

Laurie, feep your lungs full of air , that way you will not sink,

flutter boards is a good idea also. You will make it as a swimmer,

flutter board is a good step forward, Bill

> >

> > Hi , your right advice about " Mr. Olympic " is good. The

thing

> > that burns me with the Mr. or Mrs. Olympic and they come in both

> > genders, is that they don't really know how to swim. The really

good

> > swimmers hardly make a ripple in the water as they navigate the

> > lanes for an average of 30 to 60 minutes. The wind mill types

with

> > flailing arms beat themselves out in a few lengths then hang

onto

> > the wall and get in the way for those turning around at the ends

of

> > the pool and intimidate the slower swimmers. Even though I am

> > defined as obese with my waist size, I swim a steady controlled

long

> > distance swim taking a breath on every stroke, and I could swim

for

> > hours like this if I had the time. Being fat is not a hindrance

to

> > good swimming. Knowing how to swim effortless on top of the

water

> > however is the real exercise and aerobic value. In my case the

> > problem is keeping up the momentum as the summer heat

approaches.

> > Best regards Bill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you see me swimming around the stars then you will know I have

made it to the longest swim - Bill

I have reached

> >

> > Hi , your right advice about " Mr. Olympic " is good. The

thing

> > that burns me with the Mr. or Mrs. Olympic and they come in

both

> > genders, is that they don't really know how to swim. The

really good

> > swimmers hardly make a ripple in the water as they navigate

the

> > lanes for an average of 30 to 60 minutes. The wind mill types

with

> > flailing arms beat themselves out in a few lengths then hang

onto

> > the wall and get in the way for those turning around at the

ends of

> > the pool and intimidate the slower swimmers. Even though I am

> > defined as obese with my waist size, I swim a steady

controlled long

> > distance swim taking a breath on every stroke, and I could

swim for

> > hours like this if I had the time. Being fat is not a

hindrance to

> > good swimming. Knowing how to swim effortless on top of the

water

> > however is the real exercise and aerobic value. In my case the

> > problem is keeping up the momentum as the summer heat

approaches.

> > Best regards Bill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, I did this one night last year. It was almost midnight and I

saw a shooting star. It was so special. Loved it.

Elaine

> thefatmanwalking_group , " labtrek1941 "

> wrote:

> all alone in the dark, and float and look up at the stars. All is

> right with the world, then.

> > W.

[Guest guest]

That would be a lovely place to swim through eternity, Bill.

W.

Re: wow do I ever have to watch it!

If you see me swimming around the stars then you will know I have made it to the longest swim - BillI have reached > >> > Hi , your right advice about "Mr. Olympic" is good. The thing > > that burns me with the Mr. or Mrs. Olympic and they come in both > > genders, is that they don't really know how to swim. The really good > > swimmers hardly make a ripple in the water as they navigate the > > lanes for an average of 30 to 60 minutes. The wind mill types with > > flailing arms beat themselves out in a few lengths then hang onto > > the wall and get in the way for those turning around at the ends of > > the pool and intimidate the slower swimmers. Even though I am > > defined as obese with my waist size, I swim a steady controlled long > > distance swim taking a breath on every stroke, and I could swim for > > hours like this if I had the time. Being fat is not a hindrance to > > good swimming. Knowing how to swim effortless on top of the water > > however is the real exercise and aerobic value. In my case the > > problem is keeping up the momentum as the summer heat approaches. > > Best regards Bill> > > >>

[Guest guest]

One magic thing about the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, was that we were totally without power in the entire Gulf South for many days, and in my neighborhood for well over a month. The stars were, as you said, like diamonds on black velvet.

W.

Re: Re: wow do I ever have to watch it!

I used to love it at Lake Tahoe. You were so high (no...not on drugs) you could almost catch a shooting star. It looked like diamonds on black velvet. There has been alot of development now, and then sky is kind of washed out compared to what it used to be. I invite anyone who hasn't taken the time to lay on their back and just look at the stars, to do it. Spend time with your children pointing out the Big Dipper and Little Dipper. It really is a special time.

Maggie

, I did this one night last year. It was almost midnight and Isaw a shooting star. It was so special. Loved it.