Re: FDA transcripts from Hearings are all online now

[Guest guest]

I've just begun to read this mess! . . . I can't

believe what I'm reading . . . Here we go with

life-time implants again! . . . On the pages where

important information is supposed to be posted there

are just -----------'s!

Here's one of mentor's slides: - ( ) comments are

mine!

Rogene

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Fatigue Testing

20-30 lbs endurance load limit (Don't play with the

kids!)

Analyzed raw data

Estimated median life of 25-47 years (back to

lifetime implants? - Oh yeah?)

Appropriateness of test set-up and accuracy of

estimate unknown based on lack of pure cyclic failures

observed in modes and causes of rupture studies (As if

there weren't enough of us around with the old

implants who could have been studied!)

--- colibrimama <colibrimama@...> wrote:

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http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/cdrh05.html#GeneralPlasticSurgery

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[Guest guest]

Honey, what does this mean? Have they allowed breast implants back or is

this just another meeting?

Love always...Lea

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Re: FDA transcripts from Hearings are all online

now

> I've just begun to read this mess! . . . I can't

> believe what I'm reading . . . Here we go with

> life-time implants again! . . . On the pages where

> important information is supposed to be posted there

> are just -----------'s!

>

> Here's one of mentor's slides: - ( ) comments are

> mine!

>

> Rogene

> =============================

>

> Fatigue Testing

>

> 20-30 lbs endurance load limit (Don't play with the

> kids!)

>

> Analyzed raw data

> Estimated median life of 25-47 years (back to

> lifetime implants? - Oh yeah?)

>

> Appropriateness of test set-up and accuracy of

> estimate unknown based on lack of pure cyclic failures

> observed in modes and causes of rupture studies (As if

> there weren't enough of us around with the old

> implants who could have been studied!)

>

>

> --- colibrimama <colibrimama@...> wrote:

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> http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/cdrh05.html#GeneralPlasticSurgery

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> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

These are from the transcripts from the FDA meeting

with Inamed and Mentor.

Rogene

--- Lea <devans@...> wrote:

> Honey, what does this mean? Have they allowed breast

> implants back or is

> this just another meeting?

>

> Love always...Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````

> Re: FDA transcripts from

> Hearings are all online

> now

>

>

> > I've just begun to read this mess! . . . I can't

> > believe what I'm reading . . . Here we go with

> > life-time implants again! . . . On the pages where

> > important information is supposed to be posted

> there

> > are just -----------'s!

> >

> > Here's one of mentor's slides: - ( ) comments are

> > mine!

> >

> > Rogene

> > =============================

> >

> > Fatigue Testing

> >

> > 20-30 lbs endurance load limit (Don't play with

> the

> > kids!)

> >

> > Analyzed raw data

> > Estimated median life of 25-47 years (back to

> > lifetime implants? - Oh yeah?)

> >

> > Appropriateness of test set-up and accuracy of

> > estimate unknown based on lack of pure cyclic

> failures

> > observed in modes and causes of rupture studies

> (As if

> > there weren't enough of us around with the old

> > implants who could have been studied!)

> >

> >

> > --- colibrimama <colibrimama@...> wrote:

> >>

> >

>

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/cdrh05.html#GeneralPlasticSurgery

> >>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. "

> - Linus ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

> 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rogene ... thanks for posting this ... I hadn't read it yet ...

> > > Fatigue Testing

> > >

> > > 20-30 lbs endurance load limit

However, what I believe to be a front group funded (more than a half

million dollars to this group) ... WINABC.org ... claimed 1000

pounds!

Don't have time to thoroughly check this out ... but thought I'd

throw this out ... since Mullen is all over the press making these

claims ...

http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/behold.pl?

ascribeid=20050408.131822 & time=13%2027%20PDT & year=2005 & public=0

Over the past decade advances in silicone gel-filled breast implant

technology have been remarkable. Silicone implants today are tested

to withstand 1,000 pounds of force. As a relevant point of

reference, a normal mammogram creates about 32 pounds of force.

" Sound science results in sound decision-making. When science

is replaced by unfounded rhetoric, all bets are off, " said Mullen.

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CONTACT: Betsy Mullen, Founder, President/CEO, WIN Against

Breast Cancer, 619-787-2155; www.winabc.org; winabc@...

[Guest guest]

This is really interesting. I guess the woman at the gym I go to is a lot stronger than anyone thought! She has ruptured two sets of saline implants and one set of silicones. She’s getting reimplanted Wednesday for a forth set. She’ll be pleased to know just how strong her pec muscles really are!

Kenda

Rogene ... thanks for posting this ... I hadn't read it yet ...

> > > Fatigue Testing

> > >

> > > 20-30 lbs endurance load limit

However, what I believe to be a front group funded (more than a half

million dollars to this group) ... WINABC.org ... claimed 1000

pounds!

Don't have time to thoroughly check this out ... but thought I'd

throw this out ... since Mullen is all over the press making these

claims ...

http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/behold.pl?

ascribeid=20050408.131822 & time=13%2027%20PDT & year=2005 & public=0

Over the past decade advances in silicone gel-filled breast implant

technology have been remarkable. Silicone implants today are tested

to withstand 1,000 pounds of force. As a relevant point of

reference, a normal mammogram creates about 32 pounds of force.

" Sound science results in sound decision-making. When science

is replaced by unfounded rhetoric, all bets are off, " said Mullen.

----

CONTACT: Betsy Mullen, Founder, President/CEO, WIN Against

Breast Cancer, 619-787-2155; www.winabc.org; winabc@...

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)