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Marina, My Opthamologist had me get GenTeal Lubricant Eye Drops. I

didn't realize I had dry eye because they water sometime its like I

am crying, he told me that my eyes are not absorbing the tears. The

drops seem to have helped.

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marina... go and get the bion tears... they sell them at wal-mart.. for the

cheapest ... they really work for me... and i was really bad, too...

because they are so exspensive, i re=use the vials.... just becarful not to

contaminate it... one usually last for three or four days... i do i morning and

night... and in between if needed..;O)

rae

[ ] Dry Eyes

Hey all. Just wondering what any of you may have done to help with

the dry eye issues with Sjogren's? Restasis did nothing. I have

don't all the artificial tears and they only work as long as I am

dripping them in. Once they dry up so does my eyeball!! Punctal

Plugs were very irritating and didn't really help much. My

opthalmologist cauterized my lower lacrimal ducts. That really

didn't do anything (turns out they didn't fully close up). I am

taking tetracycline to try and thin out my tears (one of the side

effects of the med). Last week I had my right lower lacrimal redone

and the right upper duct done for the first time. It seems to be

helping some. I don't feel like I am having to peel my lids open in

the morning on the right eye as badly as the left. Before the

procedure it was VERY painful to get my eyelids open in the

morning. I get them open just enough to be able to put some drops

in there to moisten things up. My right eye is still very dry, but

not to the extent as it was before. I am using Pred Forte (steroid

drops) 2x a day. I have put ointment in my eyes at night to try and

help the dryness that occures overnight. But, some days it is so

bad that when I get online I can't read anything on the computer

because my vision is so blurry. Some days my vision is 20/20. When

the dryness is real bad and my vision is blurry I am lucky to be

20/100 or worse!! Thanks for listening....Marina/Ohio

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Sorry to hear about your Sjogrens. I have it also, but the Restasis had done

wonders for me! I agree with you on the punctal plugs - they drove me crazy. I

had to have them taken out my very next appt.

I was diagnosed with Sjogrens after an episode with one eye going totally blurry

while driving. I thought I might have had a mini-stroke! My family dr. couldn

't find anything wrong, so I went to an opthamologist. It turned out that he

specializes in dry eye diseases! Talk about being led by God!

After the diagnosis, a lot of things made sense, like my dry mouth when I sing

(or talk too much!) and my constantly changing vision. With the help of

Salagen, my dry mouth is somewhat under control, although I still have to chew a

lot of sugarless gum (especially when I sing!). My eyes are much better, so I

only have to use eyedrops occasionally, when the Sjogrens really flares up.

I hope you and your doctor are able to find something to give you some relief

soon. It sounds like you've got a good dr. who knows what he is doing. Hang in

there! One of my favorite sayings is " The only constant in life is that things

change. " I hope things change for you soon. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Vikki

[ ] Dry Eyes

Hey all. Just wondering what any of you may have done to help with

the dry eye issues with Sjogren's? Restasis did nothing. I have

don't all the artificial tears and they only work as long as I am

dripping them in. Once they dry up so does my eyeball!! Punctal

Plugs were very irritating and didn't really help much. My

opthalmologist cauterized my lower lacrimal ducts. That really

didn't do anything (turns out they didn't fully close up). I am

taking tetracycline to try and thin out my tears (one of the side

effects of the med). Last week I had my right lower lacrimal redone

and the right upper duct done for the first time. It seems to be

helping some. I don't feel like I am having to peel my lids open in

the morning on the right eye as badly as the left. Before the

procedure it was VERY painful to get my eyelids open in the

morning. I get them open just enough to be able to put some drops

in there to moisten things up. My right eye is still very dry, but

not to the extent as it was before. I am using Pred Forte (steroid

drops) 2x a day. I have put ointment in my eyes at night to try and

help the dryness that occures overnight. But, some days it is so

bad that when I get online I can't read anything on the computer

because my vision is so blurry. Some days my vision is 20/20. When

the dryness is real bad and my vision is blurry I am lucky to be

20/100 or worse!! Thanks for listening....Marina/Ohio

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Hi ... that Sjogren's is tricky stuff!

I also found the Aqua-drops (sugar free) and I keep one pack in my purse and

one in the drawer by my bed. I found mine at Target and also at Kroger.

The melon ones are very good. I was skeptical and thinking that any hard candy

could do the trick, but not so.

Here's the website to learn more: _http://www.aqua-drops.com/_

(http://www.aqua-drops.com/)

Love and Prayers,

Beth

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Hi Marina,

My eyes are terrible. I am still on the Restasis, but my eyes are still as

gritty and (i think painful) and hard to see out of than ever. They have not

have any of the plugs or any of those things put in. He did not feel that it

would help much (my Opthamologist). I go to see him fairly soon.

I'm so sorry you are having such problems with your eyes. It does concern me

about my eyes because I have a Grandfather who went blind, two 2nd cousins. As

far as I know not because of Sjo. But then again what do we know about this

syndrome????? No one in my family wrote anything down, yet I know down through

the generations some have suffered some of the same symptoms through word of

mouth of cousins, etc. It is the best thing we can do as parents....gather

information up for our future generations so they have answers.

Prayers, love and hugs,

Nan in Michigan

marina_troi <nefertiti@...> wrote:

Hey all. Just wondering what any of you may have done to help with

the dry eye issues with Sjogren's? Restasis did nothing. I have

don't all the artificial tears and they only work as long as I am

dripping them in. Once they dry up so does my eyeball!! Punctal

Plugs were very irritating and didn't really help much. My

opthalmologist cauterized my lower lacrimal ducts. That really

didn't do anything (turns out they didn't fully close up). I am

taking tetracycline to try and thin out my tears (one of the side

effects of the med). Last week I had my right lower lacrimal redone

and the right upper duct done for the first time. It seems to be

helping some. I don't feel like I am having to peel my lids open in

the morning on the right eye as badly as the left. Before the

procedure it was VERY painful to get my eyelids open in the

morning. I get them open just enough to be able to put some drops

in there to moisten things up. My right eye is still very dry, but

not to the extent as it was before. I am using Pred Forte (steroid

drops) 2x a day. I have put ointment in my eyes at night to try and

help the dryness that occures overnight. But, some days it is so

bad that when I get online I can't read anything on the computer

because my vision is so blurry. Some days my vision is 20/20. When

the dryness is real bad and my vision is blurry I am lucky to be

20/100 or worse!! Thanks for listening....Marina/Ohio

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Thank you, Nan. I felt the same way on Restasis. Trust me, you

don't want the plugs!! They are irritating. The cauterizing of my

upper and lower lacrimal ducts on the right eye seems to have helped

some. At least my eye has compensated and stoped dripping thick

tears down my face!! The moisture seems to be staying on the

eyeball, though it still feels dry. You are right about past

generations. My grandparents never wrote things down either. I am

the only one in the family with RA, FM. Sjogrens, possible Lupus.

Looks like I am making up for all the others!!lol. I'm sure someone

way back when had to have one or more of these and they just didn't

know what it was. Oh well. Thanks for the reply,

Nan..........Marina

>

> Hi Marina,

> My eyes are terrible. I am still on the Restasis, but my eyes are

still as gritty and (i think painful) and hard to see out of than

ever. They have not have any of the plugs or any of those things

put in. He did not feel that it would help much (my

Opthamologist). I go to see him fairly soon.

>

> I'm so sorry you are having such problems with your eyes. It does

concern me about my eyes because I have a Grandfather who went

blind, two 2nd cousins. As far as I know not because of Sjo. But

then again what do we know about this syndrome????? No one in my

family wrote anything down, yet I know down through the generations

some have suffered some of the same symptoms through word of mouth

of cousins, etc. It is the best thing we can do as

parents....gather information up for our future generations so they

have answers.

>

> Prayers, love and hugs,

>

> Nan in Michigan

>

>

>

>

> >

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I was wondering if any of you experience really dry eyes. Maybe I'm

developing seasonal allergies, but my eyes have been so bloodshot and

dry lately, I'm going to get an allergy test next week. But I believe

I read previous posts that said that dryness in the eyes was related

to other symptoms. What do you all think is causing it?

-Lo

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Have you been tested for Sjogren's Syndrome?

That is an autoimmune disease characterized by dry eyes, dry mouth.

Many implanted women have experienced this. I suffered from visual

disturbances, burning eyes and a general feeling that something was

not quite right with my eyes, but have never found anything positive,

except for Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroid disease. It could be from

that in my case. The cause? Probably your implants. The disease?

Another of those unknowns....as so many of our symptoms are. All we

know is that we've experienced sickness....

Let us know what you find out.

Hugs,

Patty

> I was wondering if any of you experience really dry eyes. Maybe I'm

> developing seasonal allergies, but my eyes have been so bloodshot

and

> dry lately, I'm going to get an allergy test next week. But I

believe

> I read previous posts that said that dryness in the eyes was related

> to other symptoms. What do you all think is causing it?

> -Lo

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I developed dry eyes about 2 yrs ago. Every once in a while I have a

flareup and sometimes it's worse than others....the doctor finally

dx'd it as Blepharitis. I started losing eyelashes as well, now it

seems more controlled. I have to wash my lids with baby shampoo or

some gel morning and night. This is something I developed as well

post implants and post hashimotos dx in 2002.

> I was wondering if any of you experience really dry eyes. Maybe I'm

> developing seasonal allergies, but my eyes have been so bloodshot and

> dry lately, I'm going to get an allergy test next week. But I believe

> I read previous posts that said that dryness in the eyes was related

> to other symptoms. What do you all think is causing it?

> -Lo

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Lynda

I agree. It is also of interest to me that Sjorgen syndrome is also

something that responds quite nicely to the antibiotic therapy.

Which would lead one to believe that autoimmune eye dryness is

probably caused by pathogens also. Which is where detoxification

would help. One of the many symptoms i had was eye irritation and

dryness as well as flashes of light. Also, my body got extremely

dry everywhere inside and out. my fingertips had no moisture at

all. That is one of the first things that antibiotic therapy has

helped me with and has never come back.

Hugs

Kathy

-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> Many prescriptions that help Sjogren's (dry eye syndrome) also

make your

> system more toxic in the end, thereby creating more problems. I

would

> recommend using liquid tears and detoxing.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 08:22 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote:

> >Lo,

> >

> >There's an autoimmune condition that results in dry

> >eyes. . . It's usually accompanied by dry mouth and

> >dry vagina. Many implant women experience this.

> >If it's a chronic condition, there are some

> >prescription meds that can help.

> >

> >If you'll do a web search for " dry eyes " you'll see a

> >lot of recommendations for relief. There are some

> >excellent drops . . . but watch out for those

> >containing silicone!

> >

> >I found that my problems with dryness went away after

> >explant and supplementing with Magnesium. However, the

> >pollen count is extremely high this year and I'm

> >having problems with outdoor allergies for the first

> >time ever! Benedryl is doing a great job of helping

> >with that.

> >

> >Hugs,

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Interesting, but I know of no antibiotic I can take, so it is not a

solution for me.

I do believe detoxing is one of the best solutions for many health

problems, but it is not for the unmotivated. It takes a lot of work.

Lynda

At 08:40 PM 5/5/2005, you wrote:

>-

>

>Lynda

>I agree. It is also of interest to me that Sjorgen syndrome is also

>something that responds quite nicely to the antibiotic therapy.

>Which would lead one to believe that autoimmune eye dryness is

>probably caused by pathogens also. Which is where detoxification

>would help. One of the many symptoms i had was eye irritation and

>dryness as well as flashes of light. Also, my body got extremely

>dry everywhere inside and out. my fingertips had no moisture at

>all. That is one of the first things that antibiotic therapy has

>helped me with and has never come back.

>Hugs

>Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > Many prescriptions that help Sjogren's (dry eye syndrome) also

>make your

> > system more toxic in the end, thereby creating more problems. I

>would

> > recommend using liquid tears and detoxing.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> > At 08:22 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote:

> > >Lo,

> > >

> > >There's an autoimmune condition that results in dry

> > >eyes. . . It's usually accompanied by dry mouth and

> > >dry vagina. Many implant women experience this.

> > >If it's a chronic condition, there are some

> > >prescription meds that can help.

> > >

> > >If you'll do a web search for " dry eyes " you'll see a

> > >lot of recommendations for relief. There are some

> > >excellent drops . . . but watch out for those

> > >containing silicone!

> > >

> > >I found that my problems with dryness went away after

> > >explant and supplementing with Magnesium. However, the

> > >pollen count is extremely high this year and I'm

> > >having problems with outdoor allergies for the first

> > >time ever! Benedryl is doing a great job of helping

> > >with that.

> > >

> > >Hugs,

> > >

> > >Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>given by

> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed

> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you.

> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>how to live

> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>ing,

> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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-I totally agree on that one!

kathy

-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> Interesting, but I know of no antibiotic I can take, so it is not

a

> solution for me.

>

> I do believe detoxing is one of the best solutions for many health

> problems, but it is not for the unmotivated. It takes a lot of

work.

>

> Lynda

>

> At 08:40 PM 5/5/2005, you wrote:

> >-

> >

> >Lynda

> >I agree. It is also of interest to me that Sjorgen syndrome is

also

> >something that responds quite nicely to the antibiotic therapy.

> >Which would lead one to believe that autoimmune eye dryness is

> >probably caused by pathogens also. Which is where detoxification

> >would help. One of the many symptoms i had was eye irritation and

> >dryness as well as flashes of light. Also, my body got extremely

> >dry everywhere inside and out. my fingertips had no moisture at

> >all. That is one of the first things that antibiotic therapy has

> >helped me with and has never come back.

> >Hugs

> >Kathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > > Many prescriptions that help Sjogren's (dry eye syndrome) also

> >make your

> > > system more toxic in the end, thereby creating more problems.

I

> >would

> > > recommend using liquid tears and detoxing.

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> > >

> > > At 08:22 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote:

> > > >Lo,

> > > >

> > > >There's an autoimmune condition that results in dry

> > > >eyes. . . It's usually accompanied by dry mouth and

> > > >dry vagina. Many implant women experience this.

> > > >If it's a chronic condition, there are some

> > > >prescription meds that can help.

> > > >

> > > >If you'll do a web search for " dry eyes " you'll see a

> > > >lot of recommendations for relief. There are some

> > > >excellent drops . . . but watch out for those

> > > >containing silicone!

> > > >

> > > >I found that my problems with dryness went away after

> > > >explant and supplementing with Magnesium. However, the

> > > >pollen count is extremely high this year and I'm

> > > >having problems with outdoor allergies for the first

> > > >time ever! Benedryl is doing a great job of helping

> > > >with that.

> > > >

> > > >Hugs,

> > > >

> > > >Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> >given by

> > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >licensed

> > > >health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you.

> > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> >how to live

> > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> >ing,

> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

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  • 1 year later...

My eyes became really dry after about 6 years, same as

you, with implants. My eye doctor advised me to put a

warm compress on my eyes in the morning and at night

for about a month then just once a day. My eyes do

feel better when I do this.

--- zellysmada <zellysmada@...> wrote:

> How long after your breast implant surgery did you

> experience dry

> eyes? I developed chronic dry eyes almost 6 years

> after my surgery.

>

> Has anyone had lasik too? I had lasik in 1997. I

> guess I always had

> a little dryness but nothing compared to what I have

> now.

>

> Zelly

>

>

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