Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Dear Alice, Thank you so much for sharing your dreams and a bit of your history. It is fascinating to see the pathways you've traveled, some of which seem similar (emotionally) to my own. I remember you saying you'd lived many places and I know how lonely that can feel when you're young, or anytime, for that matter. I wish you'd write your autobiography, as I think it'd be an inspiration to those of us who flounder through, knowing which roadmarks you found important, helping us to recognize roadmaps of our own. I loved your line " I lived my life in a minor key... " oh, no, dear Alice. I don't think so. It may sometimes feel that way on the inside, but for those who cherish the light you're providing, you can't know what inspiration you provide. I like knowing whom you've found helpful - I loved Whitmont's SYMBOLIC QUEST - I gave it to a friend who was in great stress and I think it saved her. Edinger, too, is a favorite. I did not know Whitmont was an astrologer. Please think about the autobiography - I think many would benefit from the model you provide. The singular journey is so lonely and the landmarks few. Each of us that makes it and survives can help the others by our example. I want to know who else besides Whitmont and Edinger, and of course cgj, you've found especially helpful? There are so many writing now, but I think those closest to Jung may be the ones to turn to for the deepest draughts. My best wishes to you, Alice, for the new year, the new millenium. I hope your book makes it into print, and please, don't despair. I hate thinking of you with the blues! From the Jung-Fire, Shirley P.S. For the Northern Exposure crowd, I came across another book, LETTERS FROM CICILY, also published by Simon and Shuster, in l992. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Wow!! Thanks for this Alice!! It always helps for wise ones to have the courage to share possibly 'un-wise' moments...you know what i mean? What do you think about Whitmont and Sylvia Brinton Perera's book... " Dreams,A Portal To The Source " ...?? I have kinda skipped and frolicked through it...might it require a more studious approach or am I safe to go with the flow of the manead driven snow? Again...you have surpassed my expectations.....i love to hear your experiences, your dreams, your analysis...please share whenever you see an 'opening'.....you have no idea the good you do, by simply being you!! Love, mary IonaDove@... wrote: > > I'm tempted to share this one as the interpret by Whitmont was so brilliant. > > when i was 13, i had a touch of TB n was taken by my parents out of my Swiss > school n w/them to Helsingborg in the s of Sweden - winter, rain, snow, damp, > DARK n no other kids, in a hotel. depressing. so my parents planned to send > me to usa in the fall to live w/a very proper Bostonian uncle/aunt - the > latter very strict n i felt literally like a fish out of water - my 3 cousins > were all very social n i suff a terr inferiority complex. > > anyway, i began analysis w/ C. Whitmont [a fellow astrol n then head of > cgj institute in nyc] - this was at his sugg as prerequisite to my teaching. > [best thing that ever happened] this was in the late 70's. > > so here's the dream: i defied him to analyze it, it was so absurd! > > I am riding in a car w/my Bost aunt driving. the car is a hearse! but the > glassed in sect is a huge aquarium n in it, all illuminated, is a huge - BIG > - goldfish! > > end of dream. > > grinned. What did they call prepubescent girls in German? > > i knew that one: Backfisch! > > So, says ecw, thats what the fish-in-the-back turned into! > > I think Greg will get a kick out of that one. > > i often dream puns - years ago, a fragment. am going up steep stairs to an > attic. at the top are two hollow cement blocks. blockhead! > > ********************* > now that i'm at it - another helsingborg dream: i am standing at the base of > a mountain n there is a horiz cleft like a bed in it. this aunt orders me to > climb in and lie down. i obey n the whole mountain shuts down on me! i woke > in terror. > > now, cgj says that dreams can have sequels. 40 yrs later, i had to decide > risking the security of my teach job n bec a jungian astrol n teaching [at ed > edinger's sugg] it was a very scary decision. so, big dream > > 3 friends of my teach M remind me that i have prom to kill myself n the time > has come. i realize this n consider various alt ways to do it, none > attractive, so i decide to climb a mount n throw myself off it. the mountain > is very smooth steep grey rock. my commitment to M Iis total. i start up, my > 3 fr watch, n i am accomp in total sil by my ex-husb on left n a man in > uniform on right. they vanish wh i reach the top. > > it is a gorgeous autumn day. across the chasm i see a high pasture surr by > woods. in it stands a doe n i watch a stag w/massive antlers, come out of the > woods n they nuzzle each other fondly. it is all i could wish for! so granted > this beauty, i spread my arms n loving my teacher, i JUMP! > > i never fall. i look down n the mountain opens and out of the cleft comes a > naked woman. i recognize myself n wake in tears of gratiude. > > Needless to say, i resigned my job n my new life unfolded. later, i read in > jung the process is archetypal n called petra genetrix - rock giving birth. > > but Greg's fish n stag bring these dreams back vividly n the doe/stag was > prophetic as in 1980 i met my beloved Walter on a ship cruising the mediterr > on which i was teaching comp mytholog, relig, n jung archetypes! he lived in > calif, i on long island, ny..... > > a lot of pain inbetw those 2 dreams - i lived my life in a minor key n i > bless jung, whitmont n edinger for their guidance n above all my teacher M, > who i met wh i was 21. > > i was feeling a bit blue ab myself in 2000, feeling i had not accompl much - > the disappoint ab the bk n illustrator causing such a devastating blow, but u > guys have cheered me up - just hope i live to see it in print1 > > love n blessings n may we all make a difference in the next millenium! > > yr fond SillyOld Woman > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 IonaDove@... wrote: > > I'm tempted to share this one as the interpret by Whitmont was so brilliant. > > when i was 13, i had a touch of TB n was taken by my parents out of my Swiss > school n w/them to Helsingborg in the s of Sweden - winter, rain, snow, damp, > DARK n no other kids, in a hotel. depressing. so my parents planned to send > me to usa in the fall to live w/a very proper Bostonian uncle/aunt - the > latter very strict n i felt literally like a fish out of water - my 3 cousins > were all very social n i suff a terr inferiority complex. > > anyway, i began analysis w/ C. Whitmont [a fellow astrol n then head of > cgj institute in nyc] - this was at his sugg as prerequisite to my teaching. > [best thing that ever happened] this was in the late 70's. > > so here's the dream: i defied him to analyze it, it was so absurd! > > I am riding in a car w/my Bost aunt driving. the car is a hearse! but the > glassed in sect is a huge aquarium n in it, all illuminated, is a huge - BIG > - goldfish! > > end of dream. > > grinned. What did they call prepubescent girls in German? > > i knew that one: Backfisch! > > So, says ecw, thats what the fish-in-the-back turned into! > > I think Greg will get a kick out of that one. > > i often dream puns - years ago, a fragment. am going up steep stairs to an > attic. at the top are two hollow cement blocks. blockhead! > > ********************* > now that i'm at it - another helsingborg dream: i am standing at the base of > a mountain n there is a horiz cleft like a bed in it. this aunt orders me to > climb in and lie down. i obey n the whole mountain shuts down on me! i woke > in terror. > > now, cgj says that dreams can have sequels. 40 yrs later, i had to decide > risking the security of my teach job n bec a jungian astrol n teaching [at ed > edinger's sugg] it was a very scary decision. so, big dream > > 3 friends of my teach M remind me that i have prom to kill myself n the time > has come. i realize this n consider various alt ways to do it, none > attractive, so i decide to climb a mount n throw myself off it. the mountain > is very smooth steep grey rock. my commitment to M Iis total. i start up, my > 3 fr watch, n i am accomp in total sil by my ex-husb on left n a man in > uniform on right. they vanish wh i reach the top. > > it is a gorgeous autumn day. across the chasm i see a high pasture surr by > woods. in it stands a doe n i watch a stag w/massive antlers, come out of the > woods n they nuzzle each other fondly. it is all i could wish for! so granted > this beauty, i spread my arms n loving my teacher, i JUMP! > > i never fall. i look down n the mountain opens and out of the cleft comes a > naked woman. i recognize myself n wake in tears of gratiude. > > Needless to say, i resigned my job n my new life unfolded. later, i read in > jung the process is archetypal n called petra genetrix - rock giving birth. > > but Greg's fish n stag bring these dreams back vividly n the doe/stag was > prophetic as in 1980 i met my beloved Walter on a ship cruising the mediterr > on which i was teaching comp mytholog, relig, n jung archetypes! he lived in > calif, i on long island, ny..... > > a lot of pain inbetw those 2 dreams - i lived my life in a minor key n i > bless jung, whitmont n edinger for their guidance n above all my teacher M, > who i met wh i was 21. > > i was feeling a bit blue ab myself in 2000, feeling i had not accompl much - > the disappoint ab the bk n illustrator causing such a devastating blow, but u > guys have cheered me up - just hope i live to see it in print1 > > love n blessings n may we all make a difference in the next millenium! > > yr fond SillyOld Woman > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Oh, Alice thanks for sharing your dreams!!! You have triggered for me a whole series of my dreams...causes me to bring out the files and take a look at some of them. I am so thankful to you here! I have had an aquarium dream, totally forgot this. I also have had a hearse dream. My oh my! Sequels to dreams of 40 years? Wow! That's important to me. I have most of my dreams copied from 1977 onward! Guess I have an attainable New Year's resolution here in the works. Many thanks, merry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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