Re: Need help from someone in the Oklahoma City area!

[Guest guest]

Hi T.K.

Thank you for checking things out for your wife. . . A

lot of women have a hard time convincing their hubbies

they are sick because of their implants . . . At least

until after the implant are removed and they get so

much better.

Unless you want to canvas the area plastic surgeons,

I'd suggest contacting Dr. Melmed, Dallas. His

email address is emelmed@....

You wife may need to do some serious detoxing . . . We

have lots of suggestions. One I would definitely

target is systemic Fungal or yeast infections. Most of

of the implanted women we meet have a problem. I'd

suggest one bottle of Fungal Defense, followed by a

minimum of several months of Primal Defense. The best

prices I've found are on www.appleadayandbeyond.com.

Eliminated sugar, refined grains, and processed foods

from her diet is also very important. One quick fix is

eating raw, crushed garlic. . . She should see a

difference in 24 hours. Start with one clove and work

up to 12 a day. She may feel there's a war going on in

her stomach, but that's to be expected as the garlic

kills of fungal organisms. Oil of Oregano is excellent

too. . . Still, she will need a probiotic like Primal

Defense.

Stay in touch . . . if you have any questions, we have

a wonderful group here who want to help women avoid

some of the pitfalls that go with implants!

As far as doctors to see . . . any diagnoses she gets

now will likely be reversed after she's had her

implants out and detoxed. . . No sense in putting

these DX's on her medical records!

God Bless,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi T.K.,

I live in Tulsa and fortunately didn’t get implants. A day on this list changed my mind! If your wife is interested in seeing a naturopath, Dr. Leu in Tulsa is excellent. My whole family treats with him, as does Jen on this list. He would be a great help in detoxing your wife and getting her health back. Jen lives out of the country and treats with him via phone consults and mailing of supplements.

Kenda

Hi T.K.

Thank you for checking things out for your wife. . . A

lot of women have a hard time convincing their hubbies

they are sick because of their implants . . . At least

until after the implant are removed and they get so

much better.

Unless you want to canvas the area plastic surgeons,

I'd suggest contacting Dr. Melmed, Dallas. His

email address is emelmed@....

You wife may need to do some serious detoxing . . . We

have lots of suggestions. One I would definitely

target is systemic Fungal or yeast infections. Most of

of the implanted women we meet have a problem. I'd

suggest one bottle of Fungal Defense, followed by a

minimum of several months of Primal Defense. The best

prices I've found are on www.appleadayandbeyond.com.

Eliminated sugar, refined grains, and processed foods

from her diet is also very important. One quick fix is

eating raw, crushed garlic. . . She should see a

difference in 24 hours. Start with one clove and work

up to 12 a day. She may feel there's a war going on in

her stomach, but that's to be expected as the garlic

kills of fungal organisms. Oil of Oregano is excellent

too. . . Still, she will need a probiotic like Primal

Defense.

Stay in touch . . . if you have any questions, we have

a wonderful group here who want to help women avoid

some of the pitfalls that go with implants!

As far as doctors to see . . . any diagnoses she gets

now will likely be reversed after she's had her

implants out and detoxed. . . No sense in putting

these DX's on her medical records!

God Bless,

Rogene

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[Guest guest]

Hi T.K.,

I am really glad you are researching this for your wife. It always

tenders my heart to see a man show so much care and concern for his

loved one by putting in the time to research the issue and take upon

himself the burden of uncovering facts to help her get better. I

love my husband dearly, but he had NO AMBITION whatsoever to find

out what my illness was about. He was content to let the doctors do

their thing, but the sad truth was that " their thing " wasn't going

to help me one bit.

It was my burden to figure out what the heck had happened to me so

suddenly and my legwork that got me to the point of getting

explant. So, I just wanted to say that your presence makes a great

statement about your character! Your wife is lucky.

As you have found out, rheumatologists are pretty worthless. (Gosh,

I hate to sound so mean! But, it is true. Even Dr. Mercola says so

on his website.) They are only good for testing to see what is

wrong with the immune system, but the remedies they give are quite

toxic and may never lead to healing. Their approach is a band-aid

approach. They cover up the symptoms of illness with their drugs,

while doing NOTHING to cure the illness itself. In fact, they

believe that autoimmune diseases are incurable, and for many people,

they are. So, the docs view their job as one of " maintaining " the

patient at a comfortable level and managing the progression of these

diseases.

However, as you learn to " look outside the box " , you will see that

there are many in the field of naturopathic and alternative medicine

who have successfully helped cure those who are incurable. I am not

saying everyone gets better. What I am saying is that they look for

the cause of the illness, and attempt to fix it from that angle, and

have met with success many times.

That is where our group falls. We have gotten sick from implants.

We have found that for all of us who have struggled with symptoms of

autoimmune diseases of various manifestations, the first step in the

path of healing is removal of the implants. From there, we move on

to detoxification of the body. Almost all traditional medical

doctors will pooh-pooh this. (But that is because they were trained

to dispense drugs and cut on bodies.)

Our group has seen many, many women get better once the implants are

removed and a detox program undertaken. It is not fun, it is hard

work, it can be expensive, and sometimes it is painfully slow. But I

can tell you that it was entirely worth it to get my health back.

I wish I knew of doctors to send you to in Oklahoma. (You're going

to need one for explant and one for healing.) As for explant, we

have one listed in Tulsa:

Dr. Hans P. Norberg P/S

4157 S. Harvard Ave. suite 125,

Tulsa, OK 74135

(918)749-3466

(Be certain he agrees to remove

your implants " en bloc' and/or does a total

capsulectomy)

or you may need to consider traveling. Dr. Melmed in Dallas

is fantastic. He will do a proper explant and give your wife her

best chance at healing.

Perhaps your best bet for recovery is Kenda's doctor, who seems to

have been able to help her a great deal in recovering from her

fibromyagia.

Whatever you do, I hope you will let us know how things go. I am

sorry your wife is suffering. We all know what it is like and we are

here to help give hope through this nightmare.

Take care,

Patty

> My name is T.K. and my wife has had Saline implants for about 4

> years now. Two years ago, out of the blue, the came to me and

said

> that her whole body hurt. The next week she went to the Doctor and

> they are still trying to figure out what is going on with her

body.

> The Doctors have said they think she has everything from Lupus to

> Fibromyalgia. It started as joint pain in her hands and knees and

> keeps getting worse. no Doctor has been able to correctly

diagnose

> her with any certainty. We have asked some of the Doctors recently

> about the possibility of her problems coming from the breast

> implants. They all act like we are crazy since they are saline,

but

> after reading some on messages on this site I think it is her

> implants.

>

> Does anyone know a good Doctor in the OKC, OK area that they went

to

> regarding their implants that didn't act like they were crazy?

> Also, what type of Doctor we should be seeing? We have been going

> to a Rheumatologists, but they don't seem to be the answer.

>

> I personally think that the companies that make the implants know

> the health problems and have done a great job of letting them be

> know to the public and medical field.

>

> TK

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Thank you soooo much for responding to me!!!!

I appreciate the compliments regarding my character. After going to

several doctor appointments with her and hearing the same extremely

close minded answers I knew I need to do some research on my own.

How long ago did you have your implants taken out? How long before

you started to feel better?

TK

> > My name is T.K. and my wife has had Saline implants for about 4

> > years now. Two years ago, out of the blue, the came to me and

> said

> > that her whole body hurt. The next week she went to the Doctor

and

> > they are still trying to figure out what is going on with her

> body.

> > The Doctors have said they think she has everything from Lupus

to

> > Fibromyalgia. It started as joint pain in her hands and knees

and

> > keeps getting worse. no Doctor has been able to correctly

> diagnose

> > her with any certainty. We have asked some of the Doctors

recently

> > about the possibility of her problems coming from the breast

> > implants. They all act like we are crazy since they are saline,

> but

> > after reading some on messages on this site I think it is her

> > implants.

> >

> > Does anyone know a good Doctor in the OKC, OK area that they

went

> to

> > regarding their implants that didn't act like they were crazy?

> > Also, what type of Doctor we should be seeing? We have been

going

> > to a Rheumatologists, but they don't seem to be the answer.

> >

> > I personally think that the companies that make the implants

know

> > the health problems and have done a great job of letting them be

> > know to the public and medical field.

> >

> > TK

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the imput I will keep you informed of how we are doing!

TK

> Hi T.K.

>

> Thank you for checking things out for your wife. . . A

> lot of women have a hard time convincing their hubbies

> they are sick because of their implants . . . At least

> until after the implant are removed and they get so

> much better.

>

> Unless you want to canvas the area plastic surgeons,

> I'd suggest contacting Dr. Melmed, Dallas. His

> email address is emelmed@a...

>

> You wife may need to do some serious detoxing . . . We

> have lots of suggestions. One I would definitely

> target is systemic Fungal or yeast infections. Most of

> of the implanted women we meet have a problem. I'd

> suggest one bottle of Fungal Defense, followed by a

> minimum of several months of Primal Defense. The best

> prices I've found are on www.appleadayandbeyond.com.

>

> Eliminated sugar, refined grains, and processed foods

> from her diet is also very important. One quick fix is

> eating raw, crushed garlic. . . She should see a

> difference in 24 hours. Start with one clove and work

> up to 12 a day. She may feel there's a war going on in

> her stomach, but that's to be expected as the garlic

> kills of fungal organisms. Oil of Oregano is excellent

> too. . . Still, she will need a probiotic like Primal

> Defense.

>

> Stay in touch . . . if you have any questions, we have

> a wonderful group here who want to help women avoid

> some of the pitfalls that go with implants!

>

> As far as doctors to see . . . any diagnoses she gets

> now will likely be reversed after she's had her

> implants out and detoxed. . . No sense in putting

> these DX's on her medical records!

>

> God Bless,

>

> Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi TK,

I got my implants out in Feb 1998, a long 7 years and 2 months ago.

I started a detox program around September 1998. Those first 7

months I fiddled around with the rheumatologist and wasted precious

time. I did find out, however, that I had an elevated rheumatoid

factor, a lowered C3 complement, macrocytosis and something going on

with the MRI of my brain--atrophy--something akin to shrinkage of

the brain (yeah, I said YIKES too)because I was only 38.

It took me almost 2 years to begin to feel better. But even then, I

wasn't feeling great like I do today. It was a long, slow process.

One thing I will tell you is that right away when I started fasting

in September of 1998, I started to feel good. My minor joint pain

disappeared in a matter of days and did not return. However, it

wasn't until August of 2002 that I was finally diagnosed with

Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroid disease--fully 4 and a half years

after explant, and once that was treated, I felt really good again.

Today, I live an active (and I mean chockful of activity) life. I

am always over my head in things to do. It's wonderful. But I've

worked hard to get here! And learned alot about taking care of my

family with healthy foods. We're all better off for it now. A grand

learning experience I would rather not have gone through, but

nevertheless, one of God's greatest blessings to me.

Any more questions, just ask!

Patty

> > > My name is T.K. and my wife has had Saline implants for about

4

> > > years now. Two years ago, out of the blue, the came to me and

> > said

> > > that her whole body hurt. The next week she went to the Doctor

> and

> > > they are still trying to figure out what is going on with her

> > body.

> > > The Doctors have said they think she has everything from Lupus

> to

> > > Fibromyalgia. It started as joint pain in her hands and knees

> and

> > > keeps getting worse. no Doctor has been able to correctly

> > diagnose

> > > her with any certainty. We have asked some of the Doctors

> recently

> > > about the possibility of her problems coming from the breast

> > > implants. They all act like we are crazy since they are

saline,

> > but

> > > after reading some on messages on this site I think it is her

> > > implants.

> > >

> > > Does anyone know a good Doctor in the OKC, OK area that they

> went

> > to

> > > regarding their implants that didn't act like they were

crazy?

> > > Also, what type of Doctor we should be seeing? We have been

> going

> > > to a Rheumatologists, but they don't seem to be the answer.

> > >

> > > I personally think that the companies that make the implants

> know

> > > the health problems and have done a great job of letting them

be

> > > know to the public and medical field.

> > >

> > > TK

[Guest guest]

tk, I had salines and I also had severe joint pain in my fingers and hands and feet esp in the morning besdies all these others symtpoms, fatgue, muscle weakness, headaches, confusion, the list goes on. I was 26 at the time, had implants for about 8 years and felt like 87. I went against all doctors recommendations, as they are not know for sureto be "safe" , they are a foreign object, just like hip replacements and organ transplats that are known to trigger auto immnue disease, and they also are encased in silicone, which is a dangerous chemical. Not only that ,they are made quite cheap and most have faulty valves and love to create the perfect breeding grounds for infections.

I got them out ,and the implants and capsules were badly, grossly infected, running down my rib cage, gunk. Pure and simple. No doc after seeing what was in there, could ever tell me those things were safe. It was discusiting.They simply do not know anything about implants.

I have my life back and got well again. If you wife's body is struggling with dealing with implants, or with illness, or is full of common infections that these implants are known to cause, mold, bacteria, myco's- she will never get any better or well if she keeps them. Her only chance to get well, is to remove them and see. It simply is too much toll on the body If infected, its like having an abcess, untreated for many years. You are in the right place. If you or wife ever want to ask any questions, feel free to email me personally. And we will contact by phone. Sometimes, its much easier. Anything to help Love JUlie

>From: "tkhendrickson74" <tkhendrickson74@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Need help from someone in the Oklahoma City area! >Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:57:17 -0000 > >My name is T.K. and my wife has had Saline implants for about 4 >years now. Two years ago, out of the blue, the came to me and said >that her whole body hurt. The next week she went to the Doctor and >they are still trying to figure out what is going on with her body. >The Doctors have said they think she has everything from Lupus to >Fibromyalgia. It started as joint pain in her hands and knees and >keeps getting worse. no Doctor has been able to correctly diagnose >her with any certainty. We have asked some of the Doctors recently >about the possibility of her problems coming from the breast >implants. They all act like we are crazy since they are saline, but >after reading some on messages on this site I think it is her >implants. > >Does anyone know a good Doctor in the OKC, OK area that they went to >regarding their implants that didn't act like they were crazy? >Also, what type of Doctor we should be seeing? We have been going >to a Rheumatologists, but they don't seem to be the answer. > >I personally think that the companies that make the implants know >the health problems and have done a great job of letting them be >know to the public and medical field. > >TK > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Do you think the hashimotos was from the implants because I was dx'd

with hashimotos 4 yrs after implants and have to date not been able to

adequately regulate my dosage. I then developed dry eyes and at times

adrenal weakness, it has been 7 yrs since my implants. I was hoping

that I would be able to get rid of thyroid antibodies upon explant but

your story doesn't encourage that.....What do you think?

> > > > My name is T.K. and my wife has had Saline implants for about

> 4

> > > > years now. Two years ago, out of the blue, the came to me and

> > > said

> > > > that her whole body hurt. The next week she went to the Doctor

> > and

> > > > they are still trying to figure out what is going on with her

> > > body.

> > > > The Doctors have said they think she has everything from Lupus

> > to

> > > > Fibromyalgia. It started as joint pain in her hands and knees

> > and

> > > > keeps getting worse. no Doctor has been able to correctly

> > > diagnose

> > > > her with any certainty. We have asked some of the Doctors

> > recently

> > > > about the possibility of her problems coming from the breast

> > > > implants. They all act like we are crazy since they are

> saline,

> > > but

> > > > after reading some on messages on this site I think it is her

> > > > implants.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know a good Doctor in the OKC, OK area that they

> > went

> > > to

> > > > regarding their implants that didn't act like they were

> crazy?

> > > > Also, what type of Doctor we should be seeing? We have been

> > going

> > > > to a Rheumatologists, but they don't seem to be the answer.

> > > >

> > > > I personally think that the companies that make the implants

> > know

> > > > the health problems and have done a great job of letting them

> be

> > > > know to the public and medical field.

> > > >

> > > > TK