Regarding weight loss, one size does not fit all.

[Guest guest]

I am hoping I can eventually go back to a vegetarian and preferably vegan diet when I feel my body can accept it.

What ever food you use to get well I would recommend that you use that same food to stay well.

Congrats and good luck.

[Guest guest]

I have been a vegetarian and for years a vegan. I was diagnosed 1

month ago with very bad type 2 diabetes. I have a strong family

history of it. I changed my diet radically. Am no longer

vegetarian. I am fish, chicken, tofu, green vegetables, tomatos,

olive oil, eggs from my own hens, sugar free soy milk, and some

organic cottage cheese. I am not eating many carbs now. I have

completely brought my blood sugar under control and am not using the

insulin the doc wanted me to because I don't need it. I have lost

weight. I also walk 1-1/2 hours a day, 1/2 hour after every meal to

keep my blood sugar level, take supplements and drink lots of water.

My dry flaking skin has cleared up, my vision is no longer blurry and

my blood pressure has dropped from prehypertensive to normal ranges

now, a drop from 10 to 20 points.

I am hoping I can eventually go back to a vegetarian and preferably

vegan diet when I feel my body can accept it.

[Guest guest]

vegan diets are beneficial for diabetics if and only if they have a proper balance of COMPLETE proteins. Which means uses the right combinations of things to make them complete. Such as beans and rice. Fruits and vegies become sugar quite rapidly, which is a bad thing for diabetics. Protein is the balancer for diabetics and vegans are no different then any other diabetics.

My mom and her entire family are diabetics. Any of them who have tried to go on high carb diets have suffered extremely. I myself have never been diabetic but I attribute it to a basically high protein diet and lots of walking. I am not a bread or pasta eater, and even tho I have a hard time eating a sufficient amount of calories, I eat balanced.

Jane

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Hi Margaret, I'm so glad you have been able to regain your health.

I was surprised to read that a vegetarian/vegan diet wasn't good for

your diabetes. I'd like to either become vegetarian or at least

nearly so. I don't think I could ever do vegan though I'd like to do

that as well. I'm also diabetic so I was disappointed to hear that

your vegetarian diet worsened your condition.

Not long ago, I read an article about a vegan diet that helped

diabetics. It was so interesting, even for people who aren't vegan.

I've also read articles about all the health benefits of being a

vegetarian.

Here are a couple links to info regarding this. The first one isn't

the article I was speaking of, about the study about a vegan diet

helping diabetes but it may be referring to the same study. I'll have

to find the magazine and to find out if it was done by pcrm. I do see

that pcrm is all about being a vegan so that may slant their views but

hopefully not their study. I looked at the pcrm site a little and it

looks very interesting.

http://www.pcrm.org/health/clinres/diabetes.html

http://www.veggieheadonline.com/diabetes.html

Take care.

Elaine

> I have been a vegetarian and for years a vegan. I was diagnosed 1

> month ago with very bad type 2 diabetes. I have a strong family

> history of it. I changed my diet radically. Am no longer

> vegetarian. I am fish, chicken, tofu, green vegetables, tomatos,

> olive oil, eggs from my own hens, sugar free soy milk, and some

> organic cottage cheese. I am not eating many carbs now. I have

> completely brought my blood sugar under control and am not using the

> insulin the doc wanted me to because I don't need it. I have lost

> weight. I also walk 1-1/2 hours a day, 1/2 hour after every meal to

> keep my blood sugar level, take supplements and drink lots of water.

>

> My dry flaking skin has cleared up, my vision is no longer blurry and

> my blood pressure has dropped from prehypertensive to normal ranges

> now, a drop from 10 to 20 points.

>

> I am hoping I can eventually go back to a vegetarian and preferably

> vegan diet when I feel my body can accept it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

i read up on it a while back too, and they stressed the importance of

protein sources, most americans only eat meat & dairy for their

protein, when they switch to vegan, they have problems. my father in

law, also skinny like my friend, also has problems, he waits too long

between meals and eats too many starches, as well as he has a few

surgary snacks he likes. he's not vegan, but a good example of how a

skinny person can end up with type 2 diabetes as well.

so i borrowed a book on Indian vegetarian cooking and something else

and it was fabulous, it had lots of info on nutrition content and

protein. it listed all the lentils, legumes and alternate proteins.

i wish i had an easier time finding the right lentils here. maybe

it's time for a trip to the indian store again.

laurie

> > I have been a vegetarian and for years a vegan. I was diagnosed 1

> > month ago with very bad type 2 diabetes. I have a strong family

> > history of it. I changed my diet radically. Am no longer

> > vegetarian. I am fish, chicken, tofu, green vegetables, tomatos,

> > olive oil, eggs from my own hens, sugar free soy milk, and some

> > organic cottage cheese. I am not eating many carbs now. I have

> > completely brought my blood sugar under control and am not using the

> > insulin the doc wanted me to because I don't need it. I have lost

> > weight. I also walk 1-1/2 hours a day, 1/2 hour after every meal to

> > keep my blood sugar level, take supplements and drink lots of water.

> >

> > My dry flaking skin has cleared up, my vision is no longer blurry and

> > my blood pressure has dropped from prehypertensive to normal ranges

> > now, a drop from 10 to 20 points.

> >

> > I am hoping I can eventually go back to a vegetarian and preferably

> > vegan diet when I feel my body can accept it.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting, Jane. Quite a while back, I had wanted to increase my fiber because of the diabetes (though of course it's beneficial to everyone to have lots of fiber) and researched it. I found that beans pack lots of fiber per serving. I was so surprised to find I love lots of different types of beans. I had grown up on Boston backed beans and never had any other until I began experimenting. Now I eat lots of beans.

Quinoa is another valuable food. I think it's the only grain that is a complete protein (not completely sure of that). It's very good and can be used in many different ways. You can even sprinkle in on salads for a pretty effect. But it's hard to find.

Elaine

vegan diets are beneficial for diabetics if and only if they have a proper balance of COMPLETE proteins. Which means uses the right combinations of things to make them complete. Such as beans and rice. Fruits and vegies become sugar quite rapidly, which is a bad thing for diabetics. Protein is the balancer for diabetics and vegans are no different then any other diabetics.

My mom and her entire family are diabetics. Any of them who have tried to go on high carb diets have suffered extremely. I myself have never been diabetic but I attribute it to a basically high protein diet and lots of walking. I am not a bread or pasta eater, and even tho I have a hard time eating a sufficient amount of calories, I eat balanced.

Jane

[Guest guest]

I guess one really has to be careful to ensure they are getting enough

protein when they go vegan. That's one reason I've had a hard time

finding recipes. I don't like so many things, like chickpeas that

seem to be in so very many things.

Even eating non-vegan items it's hard. There's so many things I eat

that I can't think of protein items to go with them, like oatmeal

which I usually eat alone. Someone recently suggested I put peanut

butter on toast but while I love peanut butter, I don't like it on

toast. I also eat bran cereal with milk and fruit. Don't know what

to have with that. Sometimes I eat a slice of cheese just for the

protein but I don't want to eat too much cheese and I don't like

eating it with items it doesn't go with. Tonight I had some pasta

salad and had nothing else to go with it.

I didn't care for Indian food because I find it too spicy. A friend

discovered an Indian buffet a while back that's a lovely place. I've

gone there with her a couple times and like it very much. Some things

are too spicy but with it being a buffet, I can try different things

and always find enough that I like.

Elaine

Elaine

>

> i read up on it a while back too, and they stressed the importance of

> protein sources, most americans only eat meat & dairy for their

> protein, when they switch to vegan, they have problems. my father in

> law, also skinny like my friend, also has problems, he waits too long

> between meals and eats too many starches, as well as he has a few

> surgary snacks he likes. he's not vegan, but a good example of how a

> skinny person can end up with type 2 diabetes as well.

>

> so i borrowed a book on Indian vegetarian cooking and something else

> and it was fabulous, it had lots of info on nutrition content and

> protein. it listed all the lentils, legumes and alternate proteins.

>

> i wish i had an easier time finding the right lentils here. maybe

> it's time for a trip to the indian store again.

>

> laurie

>

[Guest guest]

Quinoa

Quinoa is another valuable food. I think it's the only grain that is a complete protein (not completely sure of that). It's very good and can be used in many different ways. You can even sprinkle in on salads for a pretty effect. But it's hard to find.

Good morning dear Elaine. Here is a little info on Quiona

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Thanks, .

Elaine

Quinoa

Quinoa is another valuable food. I think it's the only grain that is a complete protein (not completely sure of that). It's very good and can be used in many different ways. You can even sprinkle in on salads for a pretty effect. But it's hard to find.

Good morning dear Elaine. Here is a little info on Quiona

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Quinoa

Quinoa «KEE noh ah or KEEN wah», is a grain plant native to the Andes Mountains of South America. For centuries, quinoa has been one of the chief foods of Andean Indians. It has been called the " mother grain " of the Inca because of its importance to the ancient Inca civilization. Quinoa was introduced into the United States during the 1980's. It is…

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Thanks, Laurie. I will give those ideas a try.

Elaine

>

> >

> > I guess one really has to be careful to ensure they are getting enough

> > protein when they go vegan. That's one reason I've had a hard time

> > finding recipes. I don't like so many things, like chickpeas that

> > seem to be in so very many things.

> >

> > Even eating non-vegan items it's hard. There's so many things I eat

> > that I can't think of protein items to go with them, like oatmeal

> > which I usually eat alone. Someone recently suggested I put peanut

> > butter on toast but while I love peanut butter, I don't like it on

> > toast. I also eat bran cereal with milk and fruit. Don't know what

> > to have with that. Sometimes I eat a slice of cheese just for the

> > protein but I don't want to eat too much cheese and I don't like

> > eating it with items it doesn't go with. Tonight I had some pasta

> > salad and had nothing else to go with it.

>

>

> I have a couple of suggestions for you.

>

> Ground flax seed, lots of protein & very good for you. 2 tables spoons

> have 60 calories, be sure to grind them, if they go in whole, your

> stomach cannot digest the outer fiber and get to the inside of the seed.

>

> almonds, peanuts are not a complete protein, and i dont digest them

> well, so i have been trying almonds per several suggstions on TV that

> I have heard. Oprah's nutritionist says 11 almonds are sufficient, I

> usually eat a few more than that, and they are really filling, it

> doesnt take too many and i feel like i've had plenty. I make a whole

> grain hot cereal and add almond slivers or add almond slivers to my

> oatmeal, i you dont like them cooked, then eat them raw. Nutritionists

> suggest Raw almonds, because there's no added bad oils or

> preservatives or salt, and a few nutritionists think roasting the nuts

> may alter the value of the oils.

>

> beans, try the health food store for bean dips. they will be higher

> in calories, but will taste better than beans you may not like

> otherwise, I dont like chick peas very much, but ground up into hummus

> with spices & sesame oil, it's not too bad.

>

> hope this helps & it's not redundant over what everyone else has said,

> i'm behind in my posts!

>

> laurie

> >

>

>

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