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steve and maragret, i agree with both of you. i am a little over weight, but not much. (i do have belly flab) i try to keep junk food out of my house. we eat our fair share of junk, but not a lot. i try to keep my family eating healthy. and i agree with the welfare thing, the foodstamps should be used to buy better food. not everytthing the kids want, just because the box has some new cartoon on it. Vaught wrote: Great observation, except that it is not limited to welfare. This is something that is fast becoming a way of life. Look at the

grocery stores and you will see that the selection of whole foods has diminished while "Boxed" prepared food takes up more and more space. And people just buy, buy, buy because "They wouldn't sell it if it were bad for you". In a lot of respects, the food in grocery stores is the same or even lower quality that fast food. That can't be good.Most don't know this but I grew up in a welfare home. I can tell you that nutritional value is usually one of the last considerations. Bang for the buck or all out spending frenzy on colorful products is usually the main consideration. Unfortunately, as in most things, we don't see the wrong decision until we are living its results. Or in this case, until they are living the results. After a while, it all becomes lifestyle.Just my opinion,Steve>> Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning > supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at all, > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk food, > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The rest > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high sugar > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > of chips.> > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > people run out before the end of the

month, so the more reason to > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look like > in their 30s if they keep eating this way.> > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great need > for more nutritional education in this country, especially for folks > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food stamps, > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > food stamps. > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as I > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of nutrition > when my children were in school.> > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, ice > cream, Kool

Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > Just my observation, Margaret> __________________________________________________

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I agree and it makes me so sad...the healthier i get how i am so much more aware of the passive expectations of people and making healthy choices.... I know smoking has taken up most of the $ for non smoking ads....however obesity is becoming a huge burden in $ and same premise as smoking...pitching whats not good for you and then its normal....i have to admit i was naive and shocked about the film super size me....i learned so much. I am a product of my society...and now i learn i am draining money from the system....diabetes,metabolic syndrome......but I did quit drinking and smoking any kudos??? oh well they were always half a step ahead of me. money or not.......making bad food choices is an ependemic in north america...i wish we could go back to simplier time....but thats not to be. There is so much temptation to take the easy way out and takes so much discipline and focus to do and eat the right thang......i love

challenges.......I say that over and over to myself until I believe it. take care of you sue Vaught wrote: Great observation, except that it is not limited to welfare. This is something that is fast becoming a way of life. Look at the grocery stores and you will see that the selection of whole foods has diminished while "Boxed" prepared food takes up more and more space. And people just buy, buy, buy because "They wouldn't sell it if it were bad for you". In a lot of respects, the food in

grocery stores is the same or even lower quality that fast food. That can't be good.Most don't know this but I grew up in a welfare home. I can tell you that nutritional value is usually one of the last considerations. Bang for the buck or all out spending frenzy on colorful products is usually the main consideration. Unfortunately, as in most things, we don't see the wrong decision until we are living its results. Or in this case, until they are living the results. After a while, it all becomes lifestyle.Just my opinion,Steve>> Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning > supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not

overweight at all, > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk food, > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The rest > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high sugar > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > of chips.> > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look like > in their 30s if they keep eating this way.> > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great need > for more

nutritional education in this country, especially for folks > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food stamps, > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > food stamps. > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as I > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of nutrition > when my children were in school.> > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, ice > cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > Just my observation, Margaret> __________________________________________________

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Here is something that many people overlook. Good food costs more.All the cheap, not good for you stuff is cheaper than the healthy. Sad but true. Also, many families do give in to the junk food theit kids want tp make up for the other things their child wants, but can't have. Something to think about. Leenawuregan wrote: Hi Margaret,I found that we should not always make assumptions in these things.The family might be getting their food from a food bank in the city that they live in. In my city food banks are a way of life for many

families. In the example that you described, this family might be getting most of the food the same way, from a churchgroup, or other charity groups for the needy. I do not judge this family, since the junk food fills the general cultural need for the children to be like the neighbours. It is not just a case of money poorly invested, but it is more of a cultural dependency. The school systems are trying to change this by banning soft drinks and candy from vending machines in school cafeterias in schools.But tv advertising keeps pushing the product in a seductive subliminal way that most families cannot resist. I have the knowledge about seductive subliminal advertising used by food and soft drink corporations, and I sometimes can't resist, even though I am aware of it. Change is ever so slow.Best regards, Bill>> Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning > supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at all, > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk food, > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The rest > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high sugar > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > of chips.> > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > does

not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look like > in their 30s if they keep eating this way.> > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great need > for more nutritional education in this country, especially for folks > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food stamps, > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > food stamps. > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as I > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of nutrition > when my children were in school.> > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when

I > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, ice > cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > Just my observation, Margaret>

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Excellent points. When my husband was in graduate school and barely scraping by, he lived on day old bread and peanut butter sandwiches.

W.

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Here is something that many people overlook. Good food costs more.All the cheap, not good for you stuff is cheaper than the healthy. Sad but true. Also, many families do give in to the junk food theit kids want tp make up for the other things their child wants, but can't have. Something to think about. Leenawuregan wrote:

Hi Margaret,I found that we should not always make assumptions in these things.The family might be getting their food from a food bank in the city that they live in. In my city food banks are a way of life for many families. In the example that you described, this family might be getting most of the food the same way, from a churchgroup, or other charity groups for the needy. I do not judge this family, since the junk food fills the general cultural need for the children to be like the neighbours. It is not just a case of money poorly invested, but it is more of a cultural dependency. The school systems are trying to change this by banning soft drinks and candy from vending machines in school cafeterias in schools.But tv advertising keeps pushing the product in a seductive subliminal way that most families cannot resist. I have the knowledge about seductive subliminal advertising used by food and soft drink corporations, and I sometimes can't resist, even though I am aware of it. Change is ever so slow.Best regards, Bill>> Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning > supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at all, > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk food, > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The rest > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high sugar > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > of chips.> > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look like > in their 30s if they keep eating this way.> > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great need > for more nutritional education in this country, especially for folks > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food stamps, > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > food stamps. > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as I > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of nutrition > when my children were in school.> > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, ice > cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > Just my observation, Margaret>

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Hi,

Until I was 10 I thought Soda water was 7up....thats was my fizzy drink & I was lucky to get it & thought it tasted great. Until I started work I NEVER got any sweets chips etc other than special occasions such as b'day parties Xmas or St s Day. My mother, once a week, did some baking & this was our sugar feast. Every night I got meat two veg & spuds or some other sort of home cooked meal. Now as I look around with all the desperately unhappy over weight people who I pass on the street everyday I've never held my mum in such high esteem.

Children live what they learn. I consider its nothing short of child abuse, and Im not trying to be controversial, when I see a young kid rolling down the street hand in hand with his/her over weight parents.

Its discipline, children need discipline, if they don't learn this from a very young age, they are starting a 100 metre race 10 meters behind everyone else.

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The simpler times? Oh no, that would mean plowing the fields by hand.It is education that helps us. Yet these proccessed foods that seem to be the culprit. All those chenicals and stuff to make it last l\ong on the shelf, helps it last long on my bootie too.We have gotten lazy and we know it.Also, the way we eat. Most people do not sit ast table to eat anymore, mosat are in front of a TV. And we snack rerribly. How many times have you been in your kitchen today? uhuh and how many times for a fresh veggie? uhuh I know because I am guilty too. Times do not need to change we do. When kids were smaller I put on weight. I was only eating once a day, and at first l;ost weight because so active. Then my body got scared thought I was starving, so everything I ate waas being stored. Now I can't get it to quit. All were bad choices. We need to educate our kids, getr them used to healthy ways, before our bad habits hurt them. Leenasue miles

wrote: I agree and it makes me so sad...the healthier i get how i am so much more aware of the passive expectations of people and making healthy choices.... I know smoking has taken up most of the $ for non smoking ads....however obesity is becoming a huge burden in $ and same premise as smoking...pitching whats not good for you and then its normal....i have to admit i was naive and shocked about the film super size me....i learned so much. I am a product of my society...and now i learn i am draining money from the

system....diabetes,metabolic syndrome......but I did quit drinking and smoking any kudos??? oh well they were always half a step ahead of me. money or not.......making bad food choices is an ependemic in north america...i wish we could go back to simplier time....but thats not to be. There is so much temptation to take the easy way out and takes so much discipline and focus to do and eat the right thang......i love challenges.......I say that over and over to myself until I believe it. take care of you sue Vaught wrote: Great observation, except that it is not limited to welfare. This is something that is fast becoming a way of life. Look at the grocery stores and you will see that the selection of whole foods has diminished while "Boxed" prepared food takes up more and

more space. And people just buy, buy, buy because "They wouldn't sell it if it were bad for you". In a lot of respects, the food in grocery stores is the same or even lower quality that fast food. That can't be good.Most don't know this but I grew up in a welfare home. I can tell you that nutritional value is usually one of the last considerations. Bang for the buck or all out spending frenzy on colorful products is usually the main consideration. Unfortunately, as in most things, we don't see the wrong decision until we are living its results. Or in this case, until they are living the results. After a while, it all becomes lifestyle.Just my opinion,Steve>> Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning

> supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at all, > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk food, > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The rest > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high sugar > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > of chips.> > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look like > in their 30s if they

keep eating this way.> > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great need > for more nutritional education in this country, especially for folks > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food stamps, > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > food stamps. > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as I > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of nutrition > when my children were in school.> > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, ice > cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > Just my

observation, Margaret> __________________________________________________

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Good Morning All: I have enjoyed reading these posts and will add my two cents worth. I wasn't raised in a welfare home BUT we were rather poor (I GUESS) At least by today's standards. I was the oldest girl in a family of 11 children. My father was a coal miner.

We lived out in the country with only dirt roads, no electricity, no running water (we drew out water from a well) NO INDOOR PLUMBING - etc. AND of course, NO TV. Although, they didn't even have TV's until I was a teenager. We did have a battery operated radio which we enjoyed immensely. I remember sitting around the radio listening to The Lone Ranger, Those mystery stories which had us sitting on the edge of our chairs - They were much better than TV. Especially, since we didn't have electric lights and we would be sitting by kerosene lamps and all of a sudden one of my mischievous brothers would blow the lamp out - HA.

Anyway we ALWAYS had a BIG pot of Great Northern Beans cooking on the back of the wood burning cook stove. We always had fresh fruit and vegetables in the season and canned fruit and vegetables that my mother put up for the winter. We NEVER had candy or store bought goodies EXCEPT once a month my father would bring home two bags of candy. One bag was those jellied orange slices and the other was CHOCOLATE Drops. Being the oldest girl I was appointed the job of counting out the pieces for each of us. I took the job very seriously. Although my mouth would be watering I wouldn't sneak any in my mouth while I was counting. I COULDN'T - I had all those pairs of eyes watching me hungrily while I hurried to get the job done. After supper we would all go to the radio and sit around and enjoy our candy and radio programs.

We always had a lot of jell-o which my father wouldn't eat because it shook. We never went hungry and I guess actually we ate much healthier than we would have if we had lived closer to town or had more money to spend.

I don't know where I went wrong after I left home to make my fortune. I DO TOO - my first paycheck I think I spent almost half of it on candy and junk food. I learned real fast to eat out and ENJOY french fries and all that. So it wasn't the way I was brought up but I guess it was my weakness that got to me. It didn't take me long to start putting weight on. I no longer walked 4 miles a day. 2 miles to and 2 miles back from school or to town. I no longer played basketball, baseball or all those good for you things.

Well this is getting to be a book - I just got started thinking back and couldn't stop - Shirley from Southern Illinois

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Date: 6/6/2006 5:23:51 PM Central Standard Time

From: wuregan@...

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To: thefatmanwalking_group

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Hi Margaret,

I found that we should not always make assumptions in these things.

The family might be getting their food from a food bank in the city

that they live in. In my city food banks are a way of life for many

families. In the example that you described, this family might be

getting most of the food the same way, from a churchgroup, or other

charity groups for the needy. I do not judge this family, since the

junk food fills the general cultural need for the children to be

like the neighbours. It is not just a case of money poorly invested,

but it is more of a cultural dependency. The school systems are

trying to change this by banning soft drinks and candy from vending

machines in school cafeterias in schools.

But tv advertising keeps pushing the product in a seductive

subliminal way that most families cannot resist. I have the

knowledge about seductive subliminal advertising used by food and

soft drink corporations, and I sometimes can't resist, even though I

am aware of it.

Change is ever so slow.

Best regards, Bill

>

>Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning

>supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the

>woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at

all,

>but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children

>with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk

food,

>except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The

rest

>of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with

>cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high

sugar

>granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds

>of chips.

>

>She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government

>does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some

>people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to

>make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look

like

>in their 30s if they keep eating this way.

>

>I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great

need

>for more nutritional education in this country, especially for

folks

>that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food

stamps,

>etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and

>food stamps.

>

>I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional

>education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as

I

>don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of

nutrition

>when my children were in school.

>

>I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I

>was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food,

ice

>cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds.

>Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.

>

>Just my observation, Margaret

>

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Well this is getting to be a book - I just got started thinking back and couldn't stop

A very good book {{Shirley}}

It almost sounded like a replay of my childhood. Except I was raised with just one sister (No brothers) I eventually got one more sister but she was an infant when I went off to Korea.

Love and Hugs

ps

Some day while I'm visiting in Illinois I really would like to meet you.

[Guest guest]

Very interesting Shirley, maybe you should write a book (a life story) I am older than you so I remember those days well.

Lets hear some more of those days gone by? Charlie H in Western Mass

[Guest guest]

Shirley We must have grown up close together! We had an outhouse till I was about 6. It took my mom forever to teach us to flush the toilet. But my kids grew up outdoors as well. We had a tv but it was for rainy days and special occasions. And we raised our own turkeys and rabbits. And fished. And gleaned fields and canned and baked.

And now my kids live on Junk food! lolol

Jane

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Shirley, I too, remember those radio shows. I had a grandmother and parents that were dedicated to healthy foods, and my grandfather had a huge vegetable garden and chickens for meat and eggs. We seldom had desserts, usually just on Sundays. I was very busy and active as a a child and teenager, so never thought about weight.

I married a man who was raised on fried things. Even one of the most healthy things I can think of, tomatoes, he liked best fried (green). His favorite "vegetable" was the potato, fried or mashed with butter, milk, salt and pepper. Instead of teaching him to like healthy foods, pleaser that I was, I learned to cook what he liked. Long story short, two of my three children battled weight problems for years. I am proud to say that they are both now in great shape but by their own determination, no credit to me. My husband passed away nine years ago, and although he had cancer, of a sort related to his career, one has to wonder if he might have been able to fight it better if he had had a better diet. It is a shame we sometimes get smart so late.

W.

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Good Morning All: I have enjoyed reading these posts and will add my two cents worth. I wasn't raised in a welfare home BUT we were rather poor (I GUESS) At least by today's standards. I was the oldest girl in a family of 11 children. My father was a coal miner.We lived out in the country with only dirt roads, no electricity, no running water (we drew out water from a well) NO INDOOR PLUMBING - etc. AND of course, NO TV. Although, they didn't even have TV's until I was a teenager. We did have a battery operated radio which we enjoyed immensely. I remember sitting around the radio listening to The Lone Ranger, Those mystery stories which had us sitting on the edge of our chairs - They were much better than TV. Especially, since we didn't have electric lights and we would be sitting by kerosene lamps and all of a sudden one of my mischievous brothers would blow the lamp out - HA.Anyway we ALWAYS had a BIG pot of Great Northern Beans cooking on the back of the wood burning cook stove. We always had fresh fruit and vegetables in the season and canned fruit and vegetables that my mother put up for the winter. We NEVER had candy or store bought goodies EXCEPT once a month my father would bring home two bags of candy. One bag was those jellied orange slices and the other was CHOCOLATE Drops. Being the oldest girl I was appointed the job of counting out the pieces for each of us. I took the job very seriously. Although my mouth would be watering I wouldn't sneak any in my mouth while I was counting. I COULDN'T - I had all those pairs of eyes watching me hungrily while I hurried to get the job done. After supper we would all go to the radio and sit around and enjoy our candy and radio programs.We always had a lot of jell-o which my father wouldn't eat because it shook. We never went hungry and I guess actually we ate much healthier than we would have if we had lived closer to town or had more money to spend.I don't know where I went wrong after I left home to make my fortune. I DO TOO - my first paycheck I think I spent almost half of it on candy and junk food. I learned real fast to eat out and ENJOY french fries and all that. So it wasn't the way I was brought up but I guess it was my weakness that got to me. It didn't take me long to start putting weight on. I no longer walked 4 miles a day. 2 miles to and 2 miles back from school or to town. I no longer played basketball, baseball or all those good for you things. Well this is getting to be a book - I just got started thinking back and couldn't stop - Shirley from Southern Illinois

Subj: Re: Needing to comment. Date: 6/6/2006 5:23:51 PM Central Standard TimeFrom: wuregan@...Reply-to: thefatmanwalking_group To: thefatmanwalking_group Sent from the Internet Hi Margaret,I found that we should not always make assumptions in these things.The family might be getting their food from a food bank in the city that they live in. In my city food banks are a way of life for many families. In the example that you described, this family might be getting most of the food the same way, from a churchgroup, or other charity groups for the needy. I do not judge this family, since the junk food fills the general cultural need for the children to be like the neighbours. It is not just a case of money poorly invested, but it is more of a cultural dependency. The school systems are trying to change this by banning soft drinks and candy from vending machines in school cafeterias in schools.But tv advertising keeps pushing the product in a seductive subliminal way that most families cannot resist. I have the knowledge about seductive subliminal advertising used by food and soft drink corporations, and I sometimes can't resist, even though I am aware of it. Change is ever so slow.Best regards, Bill>>Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning >supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the >woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at all, >but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children >with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk food, >except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The rest >of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with >cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high sugar >granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds >of chips.>>She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government >does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some >people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to >make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look like >in their 30s if they keep eating this way.>>I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great need >for more nutritional education in this country, especially for folks >that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food stamps, >etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and >food stamps. >>I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional >education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as I >don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of nutrition >when my children were in school.>>I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I >was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, ice >cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. >Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.>>Just my observation, Margaret>

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I think it is the USA as a nation that is eating "Junkier" food choices. I agree with the Gov teaching this in our schools and in outreach programs that help those who need food assistance. But I also feel that teaching this in the churche would also benifit others.

Hugs,

in Texas (TnT)

Give yourself a real pay raise. GET OUT OF DEBT!

From: thefatmanwalking_group [mailto:thefatmanwalking_group ] On Behalf Of az4sandySent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:25 AMTo: thefatmanwalking_group Subject: Re: Needing to comment.

> >> > Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning > > supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at > all, > > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young children > > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk > food, > > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The > rest > > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high > sugar > > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > > of chips.> > > > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > > does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > > people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to > > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look > like > > in their 30s if they keep eating this way.> > > > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great > need > > for more nutritional education in this country, especially for > folks > > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food > stamps, > > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > > food stamps. > > > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as > I > > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of > nutrition > > when my children were in school.> > > > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I > > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, > ice > > cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > > > Just my observation, Margaret> >>

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im not on foodstamps, but i know people who are. some people buy healthy as possible, some spend it like it free money, then they have to visit a food closet. ( where they get free food, i think ) i was not putting anybody down. sorry if you thought i did.spamthekat wrote: ok i wasnt going to comment, but now that there's another comment withthe same theme, i am.i grew up on welfare, my mom took the money and bought whole foods andcooked home made meals, but the only affordable way to do this was tobuy and bulk and cook the

same thing over and over and over again. Tothis day i cannot eat spanish rice or chili macaroni because of this.people who are poor, dont have means of entertainment, they dont havemuch of a positive social structure. they want their kids to have funjust like everyone elses and be able to buy fun things for them butthey cant, and they frequently make it up in buying 'fun' food for thekids instead. now i know this only counts for a % of people who use their welfare tobuy junk food. but let me tell you, i worked with a lot of youngerwelfare moms at my last job, and most of them who never managed to getthemselves out of the cycle had the following traits 1. parents who never taught them to take care of themselves2. parents who used, abused, neglected or ignored them3. ignorance whether due to poor education or because their parentsnever allowed them to ask questions, or because their parents wereignorant.

As a mom I cant believe how many parents wont answer theirchildrens simplest questions! 4. a huge lack of self esteemand then there's the time factor, every poor mom I knew, had to takethe bus every where or drive across town to get to their subsidizedchild care, they didnt have any time to cook! and i can sympathisebecause even though i was able to drive to work, with the commute, ialways ended up eating at 9pm at night if we cooked. so it's a huge cycle with lots of factors. and i think education iskey. we've got to get to the kids and teach them there's futuresother than the one they are living.laurie> >> > Yesterday my husband and myself had to go to Walmart for cleaning > > supplies. As we were checking out, I could not help but notice the > > woman in front of me. She was a young woman, not overweight at > all, > > but nice and slim, with 2 obviously not overweight young

children > > with her. She ran up a bill of $271 worth of children's junk > food, > > except for 2 gallons of milk and 1 gallon of orange juice. The > rest > > of it was - and I am not exaggerating - children's junk food with > > cartoon characters on the boxes, and it was chips, candy, high > sugar > > granola bars and fruit chewy things, soda, huge bags of all kinds > > of chips.> > > > She said she was paying with food stamps. I know the government > > does not give too much money in its foodstamps program, and some > > people run out before the end of the month, so the more reason to > > make informed choices. I wonder what those children will look > like > > in their 30s if they keep eating this way.> > > > I am commenting on this because I really think there is a great > need > > for

more nutritional education in this country, especially for > folks > > that need to follow a budget or have limited resources, food > stamps, > > etc., so they will know what is the best buy for their money and > > food stamps. > > > > I think it would be great if food stamp recipients got nutritional > > education and even all people, maybe more in the school system, as > I > > don't remember there ever being much taught in the way of > nutrition > > when my children were in school.> > > > I wish my mother would have had more nutritional knowledge when I > > was a child and would not have filled out house with junk food, > ice > > cream, Kool Aid with sugar, cookies, anything that put on pounds. > > Maybe I would not be battling what I am today.> > > > Just my observation, Margaret>

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