Guest guest Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I try to practice on myself Acceptance and Commitment Therapy which is a mindfulness based cognitive therapy which very different from CBT. They have a support site and most folks there are pro drug but I also pathologically hate psychiatrits. (Okay not all of them, Breggin, Stuart Shipko, Healy, etc, there are loads of desecent people who are psychiatrists). When I first started warning people on my ACT site about how dangerous these drugs were I got a lot of hate mail back. Then I told them that there was no biological chemical imballance in depression and they were not born to become depressed. I also told them about neuroplasticity and how this can set us up for chronic depression but it is curable. I then learnt from our site about epigenetics and I looked into this and I became even more hopeful about how we can recover. I told them about this posting lots of stuff about epigentics but again this was not very well recieved. Some people really want to believe that they are phyisically ill because this relieves a lot of guilt. Now I can understand this because depression makes you feel useless and so to say it is not my fault because I have an illness, like diabetes, takes a lot of shame away. But this also means there can be no real recovery and that is so frightening (to me anyway). I was surprised about how unpopular my posts were when trying warn people about how medication can make things worse (I wish so much that someone had warned me). But I also posted lots of stories of hope and how the brain can recover including the Professor Reuven Feuerstein stuff (The Transformer: posted below). But this all went down badly as well. Maybe it's me, but I want nothing more in the world but to recover and I have always got something on the go (like ACT, mindfullness, high dose vitamins D, turmeric, exercise, building better relationships, learning to play guitar and keyboards, whatever). But I don't believe for one moment that becoming an alpha male will significantly give me my sex drive back. Hey! my sex drive was through the roof before I took SSRI's although I tended to be shy. The Transformer: http://www.aish.com/jw/id/48914587.html Kv > >> > I just know that my sexuality was fantastic prior to taking Prozac twice and that only after taking it the second time I became dead down there. Almost total genital anesthesia for two years and 1 month now.> > > > > > > > ________________________________> > From: Dirkske yarule@> > To: SSRIsex > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:21 PM> > Subject: Adaption to PSSD> > > > > > Â > > Hi guys, > > I've been on this forum for quite a long time, and have been manic-obsessive about this stuff.> > What I've learned:> > 1. You can take pills, you can NOT untake them.> > 2. PSSD is real, and is very diversive. It is only a symptome of what SSRI's do. But the most noticeable symptom.> > 3. There will be some kind of healing. But not complete or what it was before.> > > > Kinds of healing:> > 1. You took SSRI's for a reason. When this heals, and that will heal, you will feel better and your sexuallity will improve. Also your mental wellbeing. This stuff is cumulative.> > 2. The psychiatrists, psychologists are right, there is anxiety and that DOES affect your sexuality.> > 3. Even the worst cases here, can still have sex. I myself am very damaged, more then average here, on other grounds too, from SSRI's. I manage to have sex now. No orgasm, or pleasure, but I do enjoy it and want more and do it all the time. I can go on for hours too. > > 4. Part-time healing will occure. But after a long time. That's after the adaption phase. Monkeys on XTC showed some recovery from the damage done.> > > > Adaptions:> > 1. You feel bad. You will try to fix it. THERE IS NO FIX WITH DRUGS. Try being social, self confidant. > > 2. You have reduced emotions. Use this to do things that you would normally be scared of. Talk to girls, say stuff that you didn't have the guts to say. Girls dig that > > 3. When you aren't on a relationship, everybody's libido is lower. I noticed that after I had sex once with a girl (NO MASTURBATING) my erections come really fast. Wears of in days. Can you call this healing, like some people on this forum.. no. Try a relationship.> > 4. You will notice while on sex that there is reduced sensitivity. Girls love it that you can go on for a long time.> > 5. Erections don't have to be strong for having sex. When you get it in, it will grow > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Yeah, I think we are on the same page here. If somehow I manage to feel anxiety, my sexual dysfunction gets over the roof. 2 years of no sex. Now, after the adaption, no anxiety and I can have sex. No enjoyment whatsoever, but at least I'm male. Someway you have to be over the top alpha-male-motivated-self confident to get it going. Prior to it, way less was needed. At least I reach this point. But my behavior at that time becomes almost manic, to have sex.. > > > > I just know that my sexuality was fantastic prior to taking Prozac twice and that only after taking it the second time I became dead down there. Almost total genital anesthesia for two years and 1 month now. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dirkske <yarule@> > > To: SSRIsex > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:21 PM > > Subject: Adaption to PSSD > > > > > >  > > Hi guys, > > I've been on this forum for quite a long time, and have been manic-obsessive about this stuff. > > What I've learned: > > 1. You can take pills, you can NOT untake them. > > 2. PSSD is real, and is very diversive. It is only a symptome of what SSRI's do. But the most noticeable symptom. > > 3. There will be some kind of healing. But not complete or what it was before. > > > > Kinds of healing: > > 1. You took SSRI's for a reason. When this heals, and that will heal, you will feel better and your sexuallity will improve. Also your mental wellbeing. This stuff is cumulative. > > 2. The psychiatrists, psychologists are right, there is anxiety and that DOES affect your sexuality. > > 3. Even the worst cases here, can still have sex. I myself am very damaged, more then average here, on other grounds too, from SSRI's. I manage to have sex now. No orgasm, or pleasure, but I do enjoy it and want more and do it all the time. I can go on for hours too. > > 4. Part-time healing will occure. But after a long time. That's after the adaption phase. Monkeys on XTC showed some recovery from the damage done. > > > > Adaptions: > > 1. You feel bad. You will try to fix it. THERE IS NO FIX WITH DRUGS. Try being social, self confidant. > > 2. You have reduced emotions. Use this to do things that you would normally be scared of. Talk to girls, say stuff that you didn't have the guts to say. Girls dig that > > 3. When you aren't on a relationship, everybody's libido is lower. I noticed that after I had sex once with a girl (NO MASTURBATING) my erections come really fast. Wears of in days. Can you call this healing, like some people on this forum.. no. Try a relationship. > > 4. You will notice while on sex that there is reduced sensitivity. Girls love it that you can go on for a long time. > > 5. Erections don't have to be strong for having sex. When you get it in, it will grow > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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