Need Advice Regarding Explant!!

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I am very new to the site but need some advice. For background, I

was implanted with saline implants 14 months ago (Mentor round high

profile 310cc under muscle). About 8 months ago I started having

autoimmune problems. I have recently been diagnosed with aggressive

Rheumatoid Arthritis and am also having many other symptoms (memory

problems, hair loss, etc) Anyway my original PS is going to do an

explant with capsulectomy next week (May 3rd). He has been sooooo

supportive and caring and is even doing it for just what my insurance

will cover (no out-of-pocket cost to me. I have 3 small children and

he knows I need to reclaim my body and my health. Anyway, can anyone

give me some quick advice about possbily what I can do to help

surgery and speed recovery? Are there any foods/vitamins/supplements

that I should take or avoid? How about after? How would I begin to

detox my body and start to become healthy again. I don't want to

rely on these prescription drugs for the rest of my life. Has anyone

had trouble finding bras to wear post-op? I already have to avoid

underwire because they rub on my scars, but I have such little breast

tissue that I will be virtually flat after surgery. Has anyone ever

tried those inserts that you can put in your bra? Any info. would

help so much. My husband and I are both so overwhelmed right now at

how things turned out. I am only 29 years old and I feel over twice

that age. Thanks for listening, Shana

[Guest guest]

Shana,

Welcome to the group. I wish you didn't need to be

here . . . But you're in the right place!

I'm so glad you figured out the connection between

your implants and your health issues sooner rather

than later.

It's also incredible you have a cooperative plastic

surgeon. Most of them poo-poo the relationship and

don't want to remove the capsules! You're a very lucky

lady!

I would ask you doctor to remove the capsules with the

implants still inside - if they're saline, it should

be easy enough to drain them via a needle before

cutting around the capsule. The idea is to avoid

spilling any contaminated implant contents into your

chest cavity. Also, ask the doctor to put in drains in

case there is a fluid accumulation following surgery.

This isn't always necessary, but it's a simple way to

prevent possible problems.

As to a bra after surgery, you will probably leave the

OR with your chest wrapped. After the bandages come

off, wear a snug, but comfortable sports bra 24/7

until healing is well underway. The idea is to make

any internal scar tissue work for you. Even if you are

flat (or concave) after surgery, you will begin

" fluffing " in the following months. By the time you

are ready for a regular bra, you'll find there are

lots of cute bras that can hold inserts. Just one note

of caution . . . NEVER allow silicone inserts to touch

your bare skin.

Most women who have had breast implants also have a

systemic yeast/fungal problem. This may be because the

implant was contaminated. There are a number of books

on treating systemic Candida that will explain how to

manage the problem better than we can messages.

Essentially what you will need is an anti-fungal, and

then some probiotics. We've found that Garden of Life

products are excellent. I'd suggest taking one bottle

of Fungal Defense (lasts two weeks if directions are

followed) then Primal Defense for at least several

months. This needs to be accompanied by a diet that

eliminates sugar completely since sugar feeds these

organisms. Eliminate refined grains (or eat a minimum

of them) and processed foods too. If you can go

organic completely, you'll do much better.

www.appleadayandbeyond.com has the best prices (be

sure to use their 10% off coupon). Their book " The

Maker's Diet is a good outline for the diet.

Also . . . very important . . . drink at least 1/2

ounce of pure water (non-chlorinated) for every pound

of body weight. As you start flushing toxins, you must

drink plenty of water. This is probably as far as

you'll get before getting your implants out.

If you click on the first link below, you'll find a

section for Healing Therapies that women here have

tried and found successful. The group of women here

are incredible. They understand what you're going

through. If you have any concerns, let us know. We've

seen many, many women go through what you're going

through - many of them aren't posting often because

they're too busy living again!

The good news is that you can get your health back,

and life will be good again.

God Bless,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to welcome you to our group. Your story is a very

familar one. We are hearing from more and more women everyday who

have had breast implants only for a short while and are now

developing autoimmune diseases and symptoms. I am so glad that you

are having them out. Please make sure your ps is actually going to

take out the capsules. we have had other women on this site who

were told this and then it didn't happen. You need to make it

abundantly clear that he remove the capsule--all of it or as much as

he possibly can. Get it in writing if possible. Doctors say one

thing and do another very often. Then, when the surgery is over

with, they make up some excuse like it looked fine, he thought it

was so thin it could just be reabsorbed, etc. If he sees how

thoroughly adamant that you are, he will be less likely to change

his mind once he is in there. Drains are very important. There is

less swelling and faster healing. ONce the implants are out, it is

important to keep the breasts compressed so that the pocket that is

left from where the implants were closes up nicely.

After surgery, there are many things you can do to speed recovery.

Many are talked about here in our files section and also you read

about alot of this by going back through the posts. It is a subject

that is talked about constantly. YOu will find the women here are

fantastic, very supportive and very compassionate and have alot of

good advice. So please feel free to post any questions or thoughts

or feelings you might want to share.

kathy

>

> Hi:

> I am very new to the site but need some advice. For background, I

> was implanted with saline implants 14 months ago (Mentor round

high

> profile 310cc under muscle). About 8 months ago I started having

> autoimmune problems. I have recently been diagnosed with

aggressive

> Rheumatoid Arthritis and am also having many other symptoms

(memory

> problems, hair loss, etc) Anyway my original PS is going to do an

> explant with capsulectomy next week (May 3rd). He has been sooooo

> supportive and caring and is even doing it for just what my

insurance

> will cover (no out-of-pocket cost to me. I have 3 small children

and

> he knows I need to reclaim my body and my health. Anyway, can

anyone

> give me some quick advice about possbily what I can do to help

> surgery and speed recovery? Are there any

foods/vitamins/supplements

> that I should take or avoid? How about after? How would I begin to

> detox my body and start to become healthy again. I don't want to

> rely on these prescription drugs for the rest of my life. Has

anyone

> had trouble finding bras to wear post-op? I already have to avoid

> underwire because they rub on my scars, but I have such little

breast

> tissue that I will be virtually flat after surgery. Has anyone

ever

> tried those inserts that you can put in your bra? Any info. would

> help so much. My husband and I are both so overwhelmed right now

at

> how things turned out. I am only 29 years old and I feel over

twice

> that age. Thanks for listening, Shana

[Guest guest]

Shana, Rogene is so right!I have been explanted now for about 2 and a half years and have my life back. I hardly ever psot here and feel guilty about, but I am so busy living now! I work part time, help with my hubby's business, have new house with all sorts of new decorating, and landscaping to keep up with, and have a 4 year old to tend to!

I will tell you, explant- Best decision I ever made! Even if it was against what all others told me, including specialists and docs. I was so so ill. I risked it all, spent the money, traveled 15 hours by car....And am now, after removal, a great cleansing diet (including ridding of food allergies) and some detox, I am happily 28 weeks pregnant with my 2nd child. Perfect pregancy. Not bad for a once 26 year old with thyroid disease ,rhuematoid arthrtis and ms like symptoms! I no longer have those issues, only the thyroid and that has improved! Getting pregnant was a gift to myself for making it through and getting better! I worked so hard to get here. I feel great and have all my energy back! And my breasts look almost scar free, pretty and natural! Thanks to this group and Patty and Rogene, I made the perfect choices in getting them out, capsules and ps,ect and couldnt be happier!

Tips? GArden of life's products and water ,water, water Love

>From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Need Advice Regarding Explant!! >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT) > > >Shana, > >Welcome to the group. I wish you didn't need to be >here . . . But you're in the right place! > >I'm so glad you figured out the connection between >your implants and your health issues sooner rather >than later. > >It's also incredible you have a cooperative plastic >surgeon. Most of them poo-poo the relationship and >don't want to remove the capsules! You're a very lucky >lady! > >I would ask you doctor to remove the capsules with the >implants still inside - if they're saline, it should >be easy enough to drain them via a needle before >cutting around the capsule. The idea is to avoid >spilling any contaminated implant contents into your >chest cavity. Also, ask the doctor to put in drains in >case there is a fluid accumulation following surgery. >This isn't always necessary, but it's a simple way to >prevent possible problems. > >As to a bra after surgery, you will probably leave the >OR with your chest wrapped. After the bandages come >off, wear a snug, but comfortable sports bra 24/7 >until healing is well underway. The idea is to make >any internal scar tissue work for you. Even if you are >flat (or concave) after surgery, you will begin >"fluffing" in the following months. By the time you >are ready for a regular bra, you'll find there are >lots of cute bras that can hold inserts. Just one note >of caution . . . NEVER allow silicone inserts to touch >your bare skin. > >Most women who have had breast implants also have a >systemic yeast/fungal problem. This may be because the >implant was contaminated. There are a number of books >on treating systemic Candida that will explain how to >manage the problem better than we can messages. >Essentially what you will need is an anti-fungal, and >then some probiotics. We've found that Garden of Life >products are excellent. I'd suggest taking one bottle >of Fungal Defense (lasts two weeks if directions are >followed) then Primal Defense for at least several >months. This needs to be accompanied by a diet that >eliminates sugar completely since sugar feeds these >organisms. Eliminate refined grains (or eat a minimum >of them) and processed foods too. If you can go >organic completely, you'll do much better. >www.appleadayandbeyond.com has the best prices (be >sure to use their 10% off coupon). Their book "The >Maker's Diet is a good outline for the diet. > >Also . . . very important . . . drink at least 1/2 >ounce of pure water (non-chlorinated) for every pound >of body weight. As you start flushing toxins, you must >drink plenty of water. This is probably as far as >you'll get before getting your implants out. > >If you click on the first link below, you'll find a >section for Healing Therapies that women here have >tried and found successful. The group of women here >are incredible. They understand what you're going >through. If you have any concerns, let us know. We've >seen many, many women go through what you're going >through - many of them aren't posting often because >they're too busy living again! > >The good news is that you can get your health back, >and life will be good again. > >God Bless, > >Rogene > > > > >

[Guest guest]

:

Who did your explant? Did you have a lift as well? Just wondering,

Shana

>

[Guest guest]

when you say ms like symptoms what do you mean? did you have muscle pain at all like a fibromyalgia symptoms? in different places? now they are all gone? how long did it take for your symptoms to go away?

lizJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

Shana, Rogene is so right!I have been explanted now for about 2 and a half years and have my life back. I hardly ever psot here and feel guilty about, but I am so busy living now! I work part time, help with my hubby's business, have new house with all sorts of new decorating, and landscaping to keep up with, and have a 4 year old to tend to!

I will tell you, explant- Best decision I ever made! Even if it was against what all others told me, including specialists and docs. I was so so ill. I risked it all, spent the money, traveled 15 hours by car....And am now, after removal, a great cleansing diet (including ridding of food allergies) and some detox, I am happily 28 weeks pregnant with my 2nd child. Perfect pregancy. Not bad for a once 26 year old with thyroid disease ,rhuematoid arthrtis and ms like symptoms! I no longer have those issues, only the thyroid and that has improved! Getting pregnant was a gift to myself for making it through and getting better! I worked so hard to get here. I feel great and have all my energy back! And my breasts look almost scar free, pretty and natural! Thanks to this group and Patty and Rogene, I made the perfect choices in getting them out, capsules and ps,ect

and couldnt be happier!

Tips? GArden of life's products and water ,water, water Love

>From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Need Advice Regarding Explant!! >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT) > > >Shana, > >Welcome to the group. I wish you didn't need to be >here . . . But you're in the right place! > >I'm so glad you figured out the connection between >your implants and your health issues sooner rather >than later. > >It's also incredible you have a cooperative plastic >surgeon. Most of them poo-poo the relationship and >don't want to remove the capsules! You're a very lucky >lady! > >I would ask you doctor to remove the capsules with the >implants still inside - if they're saline, it should >be easy enough to drain them via a needle before >cutting around the capsule. The

idea is to avoid >spilling any contaminated implant contents into your >chest cavity. Also, ask the doctor to put in drains in >case there is a fluid accumulation following surgery. >This isn't always necessary, but it's a simple way to >prevent possible problems. > >As to a bra after surgery, you will probably leave the >OR with your chest wrapped. After the bandages come >off, wear a snug, but comfortable sports bra 24/7 >until healing is well underway. The idea is to make >any internal scar tissue work for you. Even if you are >flat (or concave) after surgery, you will begin >"fluffing" in the following months. By the time you >are ready for a regular bra, you'll find there are >lots of cute bras that can hold inserts. Just one note >of caution . . . NEVER allow silicone inserts to touch >your bare skin. > >Most women who have had breast implants also have a >systemic yeast/fungal problem. This may be because the

>implant was contaminated. There are a number of books >on treating systemic Candida that will explain how to >manage the problem better than we can messages. >Essentially what you will need is an anti-fungal, and >then some probiotics. We've found that Garden of Life >products are excellent. I'd suggest taking one bottle >of Fungal Defense (lasts two weeks if directions are >followed) then Primal Defense for at least several >months. This needs to be accompanied by a diet that >eliminates sugar completely since sugar feeds these >organisms. Eliminate refined grains (or eat a minimum >of them) and processed foods too. If you can go >organic completely, you'll do much better. >www.appleadayandbeyond.com has the best prices (be >sure to use their 10% off coupon). Their book "The >Maker's Diet is a good outline for the diet. > >Also . . . very important . . . drink at least 1/2 >ounce of pure water (non-chlorinated) for every

pound >of body weight. As you start flushing toxins, you must >drink plenty of water. This is probably as far as >you'll get before getting your implants out. > >If you click on the first link below, you'll find a >section for Healing Therapies that women here have >tried and found successful. The group of women here >are incredible. They understand what you're going >through. If you have any concerns, let us know. We've >seen many, many women go through what you're going >through - many of them aren't posting often because >they're too busy living again! > >The good news is that you can get your health back, >and life will be good again. > >God Bless, > >Rogene > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Liz, my "Ms symtpoms" were paraylsis of the left side of face (bels pasly) , later then numbness and tingling on one side like my leg and face, extremely numb foot, staggered gate, headaches and dizzy spells. I was tested with nerve conduction tests and also MRI's. Nothing.

I also had heavy feelings in my legs and arms and felt very tired. I was told once I had fibro by having 6 of the tender points, and also had muscle spasm's in the legs. I feel that had alot to do with undertreated thyroid though.

I would say, I felt the ms symptoms go the very last, and the fatigue, muscle twiches, dizziness and joint pain right away after explant, like within months Love

>From: Hogg <elizabethhogg@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Need Advice Regarding Explant!! >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) > >when you say ms like symptoms what do you mean? did you have muscle pain at all like a fibromyalgia symptoms? in different places? now they are all gone? how long did it take for your symptoms to go away? > >liz > >JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote: > >Shana, Rogene is so right!I have been explanted now for about 2 and a half years and have my life back. I hardly ever psot here and feel guilty about, but I am so busy living now! I work part time, help with my hubby's business, have new house with all sorts of new decorating, and landscaping to keep up with, and have a 4 year old to tend to! > >I will tell you, explant- Best decision I ever made! Even if it was against what all others told me, including specialists and docs. I was so so ill. I risked it all, spent the money, traveled 15 hours by car....And am now, after removal, a great cleansing diet (including ridding of food allergies) and some detox, I am happily 28 weeks pregnant with my 2nd child. Perfect pregancy. Not bad for a once 26 year old with thyroid disease ,rhuematoid arthrtis and ms like symptoms! I no longer have those issues, only the thyroid and that has improved! Getting pregnant was a gift to myself for making it through and getting better! I worked so hard to get here. I feel great and have all my energy back! And my breasts look almost scar free, pretty and natural! Thanks to this group and Patty and Rogene, I made the perfect choices in getting them out, capsules and ps,ect and couldnt be happier! > >Tips? GArden of life's products and water ,water, water Love > > > > > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Need Advice Regarding Explant!! >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT) > > >Shana, > >Welcome to the group. I wish you didn't need to be >here . . . But you're in the right place! > >I'm so glad you figured out the connection between >your implants and your health issues sooner rather >than later. > >It's also incredible you have a cooperative plastic >surgeon. Most of them poo-poo the relationship and >don't want to remove the capsules! You're a very lucky >lady! > >I would ask you doctor to remove the capsules with the >implants still inside - if they're saline, it should >be easy enough to drain them via a needle before >cutting around the capsule. The idea is to avoid >spilling any contaminated implant contents into your >chest cavity. Also, ask the doctor to put in drains in >case there is a fluid accumulation following surgery. > >This isn't always necessary, but it's a simple way to >prevent possible problems. > >As to a bra after surgery, you will probably leave the >OR with your chest wrapped. After the bandages come >off, wear a snug, but comfortable sports bra 24/7 >until healing is well underway. The idea is to make >any internal scar tissue work for you. Even if you are >flat (or concave) after surgery, you will begin >"fluffing" in the following months. By the time you >are ready for a regular bra, you'll find there are >lots of cute bras that can hold inserts. Just one note >of caution . . . NEVER allow silicone inserts to touch >your bare skin. > >Most women who have had breast implants also have a >systemic yeast/fungal problem. This may be because the >implant was contaminated. There are a number of books >on treating systemic Candida that will explain how to >manage the problem better than we can messages. >Essentially what you will need is an anti-fungal, and >then some probiotics. We've found > that Garden of Life >products are excellent. I'd suggest taking one bottle >of Fungal Defense (lasts two weeks if directions are >followed) then Primal Defense for at least several >months. This needs to be accompanied by a diet that >eliminates sugar completely since sugar feeds these >organisms. Eliminate refined grains (or eat a minimum >of them) and processed foods too. If you can go >organic completely, you'll do much better. >www.appleadayandbeyond.com has the best prices (be >sure to use their 10% off coupon). Their book "The >Maker's Diet is a good outline for the diet. > >Also . . . very important . . . drink at least 1/2 >ounce of pure water (non-chlorinated) for every pound >of body weight. As you start flushing toxins, you must >drink plenty of water. This is probably as far as >you'll get before getting your implants out. > >If you click on the first link below, you'll find a >section for Healing Therapies that women here have >tried and found successful. The group of > women here >are incredible. They understand what you're going >through. If you have any concerns, let us know. We've >seen many, many women go through what you're going >through - many of them aren't posting often because >they're too busy living again! > >The good news is that you can get your health back, >and life will be good again. > >God Bless, > >Rogene > > > > >